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Anonymous wrote:Posters on College Confidential reporting Spring 25 acceptances. Good luck!

My child got in UMD Letters and Science but not in CS directly for fall 2024. Is there a guaranteed admission to CS after a semester?

No. It will be extremely difficult. Look at another school or major

They’ll have an academic advisor that can walk them through the requirements needed to apply, like basic coursework. I know of several in the past years that have done so successfully.

PP- yes in the past, however now it will be different. Please let this family reach out to UMD and gather their information.

+1 I posted up thread. They halved the number of admits to CS, and raised the requirements for transfers into CS.


https://undergrad.cs.umd.edu/cs-lep-faq-effective-fall-2024

While we plan to increase the number of freshmen directly admitted to the Computer Science major by 150 slots (from 450 to 600 enrolled freshmen), the number of slots for new external transfers and internal transfers coming from a different UMD major will be reduced to 100 per year (down from 1,000)

https://lep.umd.edu/computerscience-after2024.html

Gateway requirements

- Completion of CMSC131 [Object-Oriented Programming I] OR CMSC133 [Object-Oriented Programming I Beyond Fundamentals] OR CMSC141 [Programming with Purpose I: Data-Centric Computing] with a minimum grade of B-
- Completion of CMSC132 [Object-Oriented Programming II] OR CMSC142 [Programming with Purpose II: Data Structures and Algorithms] with a minimum grade of B-
- Completion of MATH 140 [Calculus I] with a minimum grade of B-

They have indicated that students who are accept into the L&S but not direct to CS should have a backup major outside of CS. Data Science would be a good one. I know a couple of students who have transferred from CS to Data science because those CS classes are no joke.

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Anonymous wrote:I know University of Maryland has become a pretty tough admit, but I don’t think the general public knows and appreciates that and no one is impressed by anyone who goes to university of Maryland. That’s sad.

Says who?

The rest of America. They know California is nice, and Oregon has hippies, and Washington State has tech, and New York State has many schools, and many of them like Ohio and Florida.

But Maryland? I'm not even convinced most of the country can find it on a map.

It’s true. I’ve met people who don’t even know what region Maryland is in.

I'm originally from CA. I would say for most people in CA, if they can't get into T15 oos, then they will stay in state. I had never heard of UMD, or even UVA for that matter, or UIUC or GATech. So, it's not a knock on UMD (and my kid is there now and happy with it). It's just that California is like its own country when it comes to college. So many good schools to choose from; the vast majority don't know or care about these oos colleges.

I do think that has changed in the past several years, though. UMD is known in the tech industry now because of Brin (Google).

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Anonymous wrote:I know University of Maryland has become a pretty tough admit, but I don’t think the general public knows and appreciates that and no one is impressed by anyone who goes to university of Maryland. That’s sad.

Says who?

The rest of America. They know California is nice, and Oregon has hippies, and Washington State has tech, and New York State has many schools, and many of them like Ohio and Florida.

But Maryland? I'm not even convinced most of the country can find it on a map.

It’s true. I’ve met people who don’t even know what region Maryland is in.

I'm originally from CA. I would say for most people in CA, if they can't get into T15 oos, then they will stay in state. I had never heard of UMD, or even UVA for that matter, or UIUC or GATech. So, it's not a knock on UMD (and my kid is there now and happy with it). It's just that California is like its own country when it comes to college. So many good schools to choose from; the vast majority don't know or care about these oos colleges.

I do think that has changed in the past several years, though. UMD is known in the tech industry now because of Brin (Google).

Why did your kid leave CA given the choices?

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I think the top notch Stem programs at UMD - Engineering CS, IT- are what is driving the great ranking of UMD. Not the liberal arts there. My kid is looking at liberal arts - English, History, Music, etc. They are good at UMD, but there are other places where those subjects are much better. Look at the dept the kid is interested in.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the top notch Stem programs at UMD - Engineering CS, IT- are what is driving the great ranking of UMD. Not the liberal arts there. My kid is looking at liberal arts - English, History, Music, etc. They are good at UMD, but there are other places where those subjects are much better. Look at the dept the kid is interested in.

UMD has a good business program too.

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thrilled jr. got into Honors Program. several “colleges” to pick from by Feb 19th. Open to suggestions…

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Anonymous wrote:I know University of Maryland has become a pretty tough admit, but I don’t think the general public knows and appreciates that and no one is impressed by anyone who goes to university of Maryland. That’s sad.

My kids didn’t pick MD because they care what the general public thinks. However, UMD does impress grad schools and employers in the field DD is interested in. More importantly, it offers great opportunities in research in that field as an undergrad, in part because of its location.

That's true!

And one thing that struck me when we moved to Montgomery County is how people never, ever bother to leave it. There are positive reasons for that as well as quite negative ones.

I didn’t grow up in MoCo, but my ex did and I noticed that, too. Of my three kids, the one that’s lived here her whole life is the only one not interested in moving away. Of the other two, one has lived in another city for over a decade and another is eager to go to college OOS.I agree there are good and bad reasons. DH is eager to leave MoCo and now I’m reluctant because it’s pretty comfortable here. I have lived many other places including abroad.

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[quote=Anonymous]thrilled jr. got into Honors Program. several “colleges” to pick from by Feb 19th. Open to suggestions…[/quote]

Humanities would be good but they can take classes in other programs too ?

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Anonymous wrote:I know University of Maryland has become a pretty tough admit, but I don’t think the general public knows and appreciates that and no one is impressed by anyone who goes to university of Maryland. That’s sad.

Says who?

The rest of America. They know California is nice, and Oregon has hippies, and Washington State has tech, and New York State has many schools, and many of them like Ohio and Florida.

But Maryland? I'm not even convinced most of the country can find it on a map.

It’s true. I’ve met people who don’t even know what region Maryland is in.

Why would their geographic ignorance be of concern to us?

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

+1. 😂😂

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Anonymous wrote:Accepted. CS. How does the honor college work?

How do you get into Honors College? Is it something that should have been requested with the application or are selected admits offered HC?

Everyone’s automatically considered for honors and all of the other LLPs if they apply EA. No separate application.

Does this include ACES. My kid is a 2025 grad who wants to be in ACES. Is it seperate application or are you automatically considered?

https://aces.umd.edu/living-learning-program-llp

First get an offer for Honors College then you get an opportunity to explore and rank your preference of program. ACES is one of the programs. Last year my CS major son had ACES as his first choice. He was placed in his 3rd. Oh well. He's surviving!

Mine put ACES as his first choice and got his 2nd choice despite placing nationally in multiple national level cybersecurity competitions. But it’s been fine.

PP...I would guess nearly all CS majors in Honors select ACES as first choice, but think that program only selects like 40 a year. They also want a variety so you get a mix of A&S, business, engineering etc all in ACES.

My CS major kid chose University Honors because they got the best dorms. ACES dorms are further away from campus.

Good move. Think my kid selected ACES, Univ Honors and Gemstone. Of course placed in Gemstone, the only 4 year program and dorm with no AC!!

Do you have to accept if you don't like where they put you?

What honors LLC has the best dorms?

PP. You don't have to accept and you can also apply to another in year 2 if you desire. Univ Honors or ACES probably. There are also a couple of smaller programs that I think have good dorms too. UMD site has bunch of information

Mine liked HoHum. Older buildings but redone with AC. Pretty exterior. Great location. Mine is a math/music kid. Piano in one of the dorms.

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Went to another Big 10 University known for its beautiful campus in a great college town. I work near GWU and have also been on the campus of UMD and so prefer my undergrad college town. I just think “ meh” when I look at College Park an GWU campuses. So many nice, beautiful places other than College Park to go to school. It’s easy to get sucked up into this hype about UMD. Unfortunately, Maryland doesn’t have as good of a university system as Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:I know University of Maryland has become a pretty tough admit, but I don’t think the general public knows and appreciates that and no one is impressed by anyone who goes to university of Maryland. That’s sad.

Says who?

The rest of America. They know California is nice, and Oregon has hippies, and Washington State has tech, and New York State has many schools, and many of them like Ohio and Florida.

But Maryland? I'm not even convinced most of the country can find it on a map.

It’s true. I’ve met people who don’t even know what region Maryland is in.

I'm originally from CA. I would say for most people in CA, if they can't get into T15 oos, then they will stay in state. I had never heard of UMD, or even UVA for that matter, or UIUC or GATech. So, it's not a knock on UMD (and my kid is there now and happy with it). It's just that California is like its own country when it comes to college. So many good schools to choose from; the vast majority don't know or care about these oos colleges.

I do think that has changed in the past several years, though. UMD is known in the tech industry now because of Brin (Google).

DP. I think this is a bit bizarre. All the schools you mention are very well known for CS and highly respected. You may not know them, but they will all have top notch instruction and hood networking opportunities. They all attract oos students. Where have you been? Too much beach?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the top notch Stem programs at UMD - Engineering CS, IT- are what is driving the great ranking of UMD. Not the liberal arts there. My kid is looking at liberal arts - English, History, Music, etc. They are good at UMD, but there are other places where those subjects are much better. Look at the dept the kid is interested in.

Music program is excellent. Humanities are good too.

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Anonymous wrote:Denied.
4.1/3.7 9 AP/IB/DE
NHS
3 years varsity (captain)
plus club sports with leadership roles

He is really bummed since his out of state options didn't give enough to make it feasible for us. So UMBC or Towson it will be (he has taken classes in HS at the CC and hasn't been impressed so doesn't want to go that route.)

What about Hood or St Mary’s?