Does your student like/love UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

And you think THEY’RE insufferable? Classic.

LOL!!! Good retort (and I went to Harvard and kid goes to UVA! - you want cocky???? Try Princeton, Yale or Harvard).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

Sounds like a couple I met recently who went to UVA. Couldn't stop talking about UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think a nerd could have a good experience at UVA? How about LGBT+? I worry that there’s too much emphasis on Greek life and sports for my gay nerdy kid who doesn’t drink, and has never dated (and doesn’t seem in any hurry). I don’t know what school life looks for them there. I did see the Brown College there which kind of looks like a place for “quirky” kids, but I’m not sure they’d what it’s like, and also only half the applicants get in.

I think a gay nerdy kid could have a good experience there. The trick is being confident in whoever you are and putting the effort in to finding your people. The ones who suffer socially are the wannabes and the wallflowers, or the ones who assume they’re going to have an amazing social life because they were popular in high school. Things are different there.

My gay nerdy kid is definitely a wallflower. Super introverted. I have felt that even though academically they would do well at UVA, they would not do well there socially.

Let him go where he wants to go. Kids understand themselves better than adults.

My kid doesn’t want to go. I want them to go because it’s good and cheap! Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:92% acceptance rate to start with.

Agree that this is just PR.

What are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

Sounds like a couple I met recently who went to UVA. Couldn't stop talking about UVA.

I never hear adults talking about where they went to college. It doesn't usually come up. Now that my kids are in college/applying to college it only comes up in that context.

You need to socialize with a different crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

Sounds like a couple I met recently who went to UVA. Couldn't stop talking about UVA.

I never hear adults talking about where they went to college. It doesn't usually come up. Now that my kids are in college/applying to college it only comes up in that context.

You need to socialize with a different crowd.

+1. I've never heard ANYONE in the DCUM area brag on or be cocky about UVA. Why? because it is filled with Ivy types like the PP above who slammed the alleged UVA bragger about going to HYP. No one would set themselves up that way. All of this stuff about cockiness is made up by bashers or VA Tech rivals. Or students who know there is no point in applying (like my DC) because they don't have the stats. Or kids who apply but don't get in. It's tiring. I live in Charlottesville and have never seen this. Many hard-working UVA kids have waited on my table or served me in stores. I have never seen cockyness

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

Sounds like a couple I met recently who went to UVA. Couldn't stop talking about UVA.

I never hear adults talking about where they went to college. It doesn't usually come up. Now that my kids are in college/applying to college it only comes up in that context.

You need to socialize with a different crowd.

+1. I've never heard ANYONE in the DCUM area brag on or be cocky about UVA. Why? because it is filled with Ivy types like the PP above who slammed the alleged UVA bragger about going to HYP. No one would set themselves up that way. All of this stuff about cockiness is made up by bashers or VA Tech rivals. Or students who know there is no point in applying (like my DC) because they don't have the stats. Or kids who apply but don't get in. It's tiring. I live in Charlottesville and have never seen this. Many hard-working UVA kids have waited on my table or served me in stores. I have never seen cockyness

I generally agree, but I would have to add the cocky ones are not the ones working as servers or clerks. It's the UMC kids that are that way.

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Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."

Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.

This is admittedly a generalization, but my view is UVA does not challenge its undergraduate students enough. This is both a weakness and part of its appeal. The appeal is it has decent prestige for the level of effort required to graduate in good standing. The weakness is many graduates don't grow or test themselves as much as they should and alumni achievement is not what it could be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

And you think THEY’RE insufferable? Classic.

They are. I never mentioned my school name in the conversation. Once they knew I went to college with my friend, they stopped going on and on about how great UVA is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

And you think THEY’RE insufferable? Classic.

+1 whoa... pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.

Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?

And you think THEY’RE insufferable? Classic.

They are. I never mentioned my school name in the conversation. Once they knew I went to college with my friend, they stopped going on and on about how great UVA is.

You have no self-awareness. It’s really funny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."

Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.

This is admittedly a generalization, but my view is UVA does not challenge its undergraduate students enough. This is both a weakness and part of its appeal. The appeal is it has decent prestige for the level of effort required to graduate in good standing. The weakness is many graduates don't grow or test themselves as much as they should and alumni achievement is not what it could be.

Agreed that this is just a useless generalization as you admitted already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."

Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.

This is admittedly a generalization, but my view is UVA does not challenge its undergraduate students enough. This is both a weakness and part of its appeal. The appeal is it has decent prestige for the level of effort required to graduate in good standing. The weakness is many graduates don't grow or test themselves as much as they should and alumni achievement is not what it could be.

UVA was always known for its grade inflation back in the 90s. Is that still happening?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."

Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.

This is admittedly a generalization, but my view is UVA does not challenge its undergraduate students enough. This is both a weakness and part of its appeal. The appeal is it has decent prestige for the level of effort required to graduate in good standing. The weakness is many graduates don't grow or test themselves as much as they should and alumni achievement is not what it could be.

Agreed that this is just a useless generalization as you admitted already.

The word useless was not used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."

Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.

This is admittedly a generalization, but my view is UVA does not challenge its undergraduate students enough. This is both a weakness and part of its appeal. The appeal is it has decent prestige for the level of effort required to graduate in good standing. The weakness is many graduates don't grow or test themselves as much as they should and alumni achievement is not what it could be.

UVA was always known for its grade inflation back in the 90s. Is that still happening?

Exactly the opposite.