Kate Middleton looks really happy lately

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another good one from Wimbledon

I'm sure that's not what she's saying but in the context of this conversation it made me lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is flirting heavy with an NFL player.

Harry will be back in UK within the year.

Like them or hate them, am& H have always looked happy together. People just want to desperately hope they are miserable.

+1, I think some of the criticism of them is merited, but the speculation that they are on the rocks or that divorce is imminent is mostly wishful thinking and projection. If anything, their love and commitment to each other has sometimes led to questionable behavior. I think they have an "us against the world" mentality that makes them over-defensive and has probably inhibited their ability to navigate his admittedly difficult family.

On the flip side, it's funny in this thread how some posters interpret speculation about strife in the William/Kate marriage as a criticism of Kate. I do actually believe some of the rumors about issues in their marriage because he seems like are really obnoxious, entitled person, and I think it would be hard to be married to someone like that in general, and only more so if their entitlement felt justified by them being the heir to the throne. I think Kate seems like an incredibly hard working persona and dedicated wife and mother who does not get treated that well by her husband and gets taken for granted in their family (as the consorts almost always are). If their relationship has problems, I don't think it's Kate's fault. I think it's because William kind of sucks, feels like he settled for her, and his family and their wealth enables his behavior to continue with little repercussion.

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I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

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She was postpartum for the fight when she purportedly made Meg cry. I give any woman a pass for being emotional that soon after birth. Meg was getting married and her dad was in the hospital, so she gets a pass, too. Other drama seems petty, such as the lipgloss incident.

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Everyone has issues in marriages and families, these four are no exception. As long as they don't bring it to tabloids and Oprahs, its nobody's business. All four are extremely privileged people. Commoners have bigger problems than empathizing with their snowflake whinings.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

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Kate is boring and petty, plays politics
William is doing what is expected of him, but so what?

I do not see the appeal
The only thing the royals have going for them is the ongoing press
I suspect that the palace needed Harry to receive bad press so that there would be less talk about Andrew and even less about Camilla being queen instead queen consort

William is rumored to have a terrible temper, they have made some pr disasters

I do not think any of the royals are nice people. Charles has always been writing letters to members of parliament, now wants private meeting with the president of the United States? Whatever for?
Remember how they are not supposed to get involved in politics?
British are so easily influenced by the tabloids that it is unbelievable

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

Sorr of. You've get about half of it. It's like the story of the blind men describing the elephant. Bits and pieces.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate is boring and petty, plays politics
William is doing what is expected of him, but so what?

I do not see the appeal
The only thing the royals have going for them is the ongoing press
I suspect that the palace needed Harry to receive bad press so that there would be less talk about Andrew and even less about Camilla being queen instead queen consort

William is rumored to have a terrible temper, they have made some pr disasters

I do not think any of the royals are nice people. Charles has always been writing letters to members of parliament, now wants private meeting with the president of the United States? Whatever for?
Remember how they are not supposed to get involved in politics?
British are so easily influenced by the tabloids that it is unbelievable

Okay.

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Anonymous wrote:She was postpartum for the fight when she purportedly made Meg cry. I give any woman a pass for being emotional that soon after birth. Meg was getting married and her dad was in the hospital, so she gets a pass, too. Other drama seems petty, such as the lipgloss incident.

Obviously an extremely one-sided account, but my perception from the anecdotes Harry shared in Spare was that a lot of it was about jockeying for dominance between the brothers and essentially using these small incidents to justify being upset with each other. So I think Harry took great offense on Megan's behalf when Kate wasn't super warm to her, but I also think William from the start was looking down his nose at Megan and using these incidents as proof that Megan wasn't "one of them" and as another excuse to make Harry feel second best.

A lot of people want to blame Megan and/or Kate for the strife between them, but it's pretty obvious to me that the brothers had a pretty terrible relationship well before these women ever met each other, which is why the examples of why they apparently don't like each other are so flimsy. They were never going to get along because their husbands are in opposition.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

Sorr of. You've get about half of it. It's like the story of the blind men describing the elephant. Bits and pieces.

Oh, do enlighten us, wise one

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

Sorr of. You've get about half of it. It's like the story of the blind men describing the elephant. Bits and pieces.

Oh, do enlighten us, wise one

They live off the interest from the Sovereign Grant, which is their money. Some "ill gotten", depending upon your definition. And they are figureheads, the embodiment of British culture. Not morals or ethics, as you tried to ascribe. Steadying, yes. Perfect beings? Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

We said, PP. 👏🏽👏🏽

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if will and Kate are living together or not but if they aren’t, I don’t think any less of them. I’ve been with my husband for almost 30 years and if we had multiple houses we would definitely benefit from being able to spend some more time apart. Through most of human history men and women did not spend so much time together. It works for some couples but many couples would be happier with more separate spheres. I think Victoria and Albert were the first British royals to share a bedroom and it was considered weird. If they are somewhat unhappy with each other, it speaks well of them that they are not airing that dirty laundry in public and creating drama all around. Generally, I think Kate is doing a very good job at her job. The only real miss I can think of is the trip to the Caribbean where they both seem totally unprepared. And possibly she should have done a better job smoothing over the Megan drama, but I think it’s really hard to say exactly what went down there.

I do judge them for living apart since they have young kids AND because a huge part of their public persona is selling them both as these loving and doting parents. So if Kate is in the country with the kids and her parents, and William is at Kensington on his own (and especially if the affair rumors are true), then yes, I do judge that. Because in that case he is effectively abandoning his kids, plus the whole set up would be incredibly hypocritical given the image they work VERY hard to portray to the public. Like you can't live in separate houses and see your kids a few times a month, and then release family photos portraying your family as very close knit and loving, and have me think highly of you.

I would have very different comments about a private family, but these are people supported by the state, living off money that originated from taxing commoners and stealing from colonies, and who argue that their existence should continue because they are a steadying, family-centric, moral and ethical influence on the populace. You cannot make that argument while living separately, excepting one parent from any parenting duties, and especially not if William really is sleeping around. Nope. You want to do that? Give your land and money back to the people and go be private citizens somewhere.

Sorr of. You've get about half of it. It's like the story of the blind men describing the elephant. Bits and pieces.

Oh, do enlighten us, wise one

They live off the interest from the Sovereign Grant, which is their money. Some "ill gotten", depending upon your definition. And they are figureheads, the embodiment of British culture. Not morals or ethics, as you tried to ascribe. Steadying, yes. Perfect beings? Nope.

The sovereign grant is just a piece of the bigger picture. There’s also the dutchy money which profits from rents paid by British citizens among other things, and security costs that also hit taxpayers (those full figures are never disclosed). Charles has “slimmed down” the working royal force, but the sovereign grant increased. So fewer people are reaping the bigger reward. Jus’ sayin. I’m an American, so it’s not my money going to this tourist trap, so i can enjoy their spectacle from afar.

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This is all speculation with every glance or reaction under a microscope. Until anyone has any hard facts from reputable sources, it’s gossip.