South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition

[Anonymous]

You do understand that the number of babies born without clear genitalia at birth it's the same number that are born with red hair.
Often they are assigned female because it is easier. That does NOT make them female and they shouldn't be forced to live as one. The DR chose at birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that the number of babies born without clear genitalia at birth it's the same number that are born with red hair.
Often they are assigned female because it is easier. That does NOT make them female and they shouldn't be forced to live as one. The DR chose at birth.

That is a flat out lie. The only way to match the claim of “intersex” with the number of people with red hair is to include hormonal disruptions like PCOS. Women who suffer from PCOS do not have ambiguous genatalia. They have a hormonal imbalance. That’s it. They are, without question, women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that the number of babies born without clear genitalia at birth it's the same number that are born with red hair.
Often they are assigned female because it is easier. That does NOT make them female and they shouldn't be forced to live as one. The DR chose at birth.

That is a flat out lie. The only way to match the claim of “intersex” with the number of people with red hair is to include hormonal disruptions like PCOS. Women who suffer from PCOS do not have ambiguous genatalia. They have a hormonal imbalance. That’s it. They are, without question, women.

I’ll add that PCOS often resolves with vitamin D supplementation. It’s not at all an intersex condition. It’s often a simple vitamin deficiency, one that is very common in our modern society. It’s shameful to obfuscate the truth with lies like that. True intersex conditions with ambiguous genitalia are exceedingly rare, by multiple orders of magnitude to your claim.

[Anonymous]

Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

from NIH study:

"Abstract

Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

from NIH study:

"Abstract

Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%"

a little more detailed than your recycled marketing phrase!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

0.00018 x 5555 = .999

So around one per 5,555 births according to the article.

That's quite a bit less than 2%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that the number of babies born without clear genitalia at birth it's the same number that are born with red hair.
Often they are assigned female because it is easier. That does NOT make them female and they shouldn't be forced to live as one. The DR chose at birth.

That is a flat out lie. The only way to match the claim of “intersex” with the number of people with red hair is to include hormonal disruptions like PCOS. Women who suffer from PCOS do not have ambiguous genatalia. They have a hormonal imbalance. That’s it. They are, without question, women.

I’ll add that PCOS often resolves with vitamin D supplementation. It’s not at all an intersex condition. It’s often a simple vitamin deficiency, one that is very common in our modern society. It’s shameful to obfuscate the truth with lies like that. True intersex conditions with ambiguous genitalia are exceedingly rare, by multiple orders of magnitude to your claim.

Lol. No, it does not. I wish it resolved that easily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

0.00018 x 5555 = .999

So around one per 5,555 births according to the article.

That's quite a bit less than 2%.

So, just picking a year, 2005, with 4,138,349, that’s about 740 intersexed children. Just sayin’, if they are for some reason counting intersex children in with trans children - and I wouldn’t put it past transphobes to massage the numbers thusly - that’s quite a few more than the 56 total genital surgeries on children under 18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Percentage born intersexed is around 2%..... Same as born with red hair

0.00018 x 5555 = .999

So around one per 5,555 births according to the article.

That's quite a bit less than 2%.

So, just picking a year, 2005, with 4,138,349, that’s about 740 intersexed children. Just sayin’, if they are for some reason counting intersex children in with trans children - and I wouldn’t put it past transphobes to massage the numbers thusly - that’s quite a few more than the 56 total genital surgeries on children under 18.

You're making it up as you go along.

Just sayin' you don't understand math, but I'll bet you're among the first to lecture everyone about SCIENCE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen my friends' kids use neo-pronouns and change them as the years go by. Like...fairy-gendered. Seriously. One neo-pronouned kid has gone back to the original she/her as an adult.

Kids should not be transitioning. It's toxic and dangerous...and unlike pronouns, irreversible. And many of these kids ARE being influenced by peer pressure.

My kid is 20 and has been questioning his sexuality for a while. Knows a number or trans kids through LGBTQ supports on campus. His comment: “at least I’m not questioning my gender. My friends who are, it’s just… mom— there is so much hate out there”

He grew up attending a pretty liberal NOVA HS and says it’s they first time he’s seen people go out of their way to make sure people whom they have never met know they are hated.

My best friend’s middle kid (out of 3) is non-binary, gender neutral name, “they” pronouns. They live in a moderately blue area of a red state. My friend was busy divorcing an addict and caring for 3 kids. And tried to respect her non-binary kids name and pronouns in an “it’s a phase” sort of way. But, she had a lot on her plate, and didn’t followup with the school or take her kid seriously Then, the child downed a bottle of Tylenol last year and in the resulting scramble, she found writing about their gender dysphoria and suicidal ideation. Now that she realized how serious the situation was, she is willing to do anything she can for her kid.

I don’t know what the right answer is. I know that my friend loves her child. That she has time, money, education and a willingness to do whatever it takes to get this kid to 18– alive.

I know everyone has an opinion about whether this is a “real” problem— even though it could literally kill the child (congrats, you died of a not real phenomenon. That But solutions are few and far between and contradictory.

I know she has no idea what to do. She started a therapist for her, one for the kid, and family therapy after divorce and addiction. An Al-anon.

I do know that removing this child from the household would cause long term to harm the child and their siblings. And I can’t even imagine for my friend.

I do know the cruelty of kids has gone from normal bullying to purposeful misgendering and using prior name to while explaining how the kid is going to hell, God hates them, that they don’t have to pretend she’s not a girl

I know the issues they are dealing with at school aren’t surgery and hormone blockers. It’s dress code, pronouns, bathroom access and her name.


And I know that this situation is way too complicated and sensitive for the government to be within 1000 miles of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that the number of babies born without clear genitalia at birth it's the same number that are born with red hair.
Often they are assigned female because it is easier. That does NOT make them female and they shouldn't be forced to live as one. The DR chose at birth.

That is a flat out lie. The only way to match the claim of “intersex” with the number of people with red hair is to include hormonal disruptions like PCOS. Women who suffer from PCOS do not have ambiguous genatalia. They have a hormonal imbalance. That’s it. They are, without question, women.

I’ll add that PCOS often resolves with vitamin D supplementation. It’s not at all an intersex condition. It’s often a simple vitamin deficiency, one that is very common in our modern society. It’s shameful to obfuscate the truth with lies like that. True intersex conditions with ambiguous genitalia are exceedingly rare, by multiple orders of magnitude to your claim.

Lol. No, it does not. I wish it resolved that easily.

I have PCOS. Vitamin D supplements were a game-changer for me. Women who suffer from it should aim for levels at the high end of the normal range. Too many women don’t know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen my friends' kids use neo-pronouns and change them as the years go by. Like...fairy-gendered. Seriously. One neo-pronouned kid has gone back to the original she/her as an adult.

Kids should not be transitioning. It's toxic and dangerous...and unlike pronouns, irreversible. And many of these kids ARE being influenced by peer pressure.

My kid is 20 and has been questioning his sexuality for a while. Knows a number or trans kids through LGBTQ supports on campus. His comment: “at least I’m not questioning my gender. My friends who are, it’s just… mom— there is so much hate out there”

He grew up attending a pretty liberal NOVA HS and says it’s they first time he’s seen people go out of their way to make sure people whom they have never met know they are hated.

My best friend’s middle kid (out of 3) is non-binary, gender neutral name, “they” pronouns. They live in a moderately blue area of a red state. My friend was busy divorcing an addict and caring for 3 kids. And tried to respect her non-binary kids name and pronouns in an “it’s a phase” sort of way. But, she had a lot on her plate, and didn’t followup with the school or take her kid seriously Then, the child downed a bottle of Tylenol last year and in the resulting scramble, she found writing about their gender dysphoria and suicidal ideation. Now that she realized how serious the situation was, she is willing to do anything she can for her kid.

I don’t know what the right answer is. I know that my friend loves her child. That she has time, money, education and a willingness to do whatever it takes to get this kid to 18– alive.

I know everyone has an opinion about whether this is a “real” problem— even though it could literally kill the child (congrats, you died of a not real phenomenon. That But solutions are few and far between and contradictory.

I know she has no idea what to do. She started a therapist for her, one for the kid, and family therapy after divorce and addiction. An Al-anon.

I do know that removing this child from the household would cause long term to harm the child and their siblings. And I can’t even imagine for my friend.

I do know the cruelty of kids has gone from normal bullying to purposeful misgendering and using prior name to while explaining how the kid is going to hell, God hates them, that they don’t have to pretend she’s not a girl

I know the issues they are dealing with at school aren’t surgery and hormone blockers. It’s dress code, pronouns, bathroom access and her name.


And I know that this situation is way too complicated and sensitive for the government to be within 1000 miles of it.

Oh— and ai know my friend more than has her hands full with her own kids. She has less than no interest in grooming yours. And it feels insulting to her to even write that she’s not a pedophile. But apparently you think she might be and… just no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen my friends' kids use neo-pronouns and change them as the years go by. Like...fairy-gendered. Seriously. One neo-pronouned kid has gone back to the original she/her as an adult.

Kids should not be transitioning. It's toxic and dangerous...and unlike pronouns, irreversible. And many of these kids ARE being influenced by peer pressure.

My kid is 20 and has been questioning his sexuality for a while. Knows a number or trans kids through LGBTQ supports on campus. His comment: “at least I’m not questioning my gender. My friends who are, it’s just… mom— there is so much hate out there”

He grew up attending a pretty liberal NOVA HS and says it’s they first time he’s seen people go out of their way to make sure people whom they have never met know they are hated.

My best friend’s middle kid (out of 3) is non-binary, gender neutral name, “they” pronouns. They live in a moderately blue area of a red state. My friend was busy divorcing an addict and caring for 3 kids. And tried to respect her non-binary kids name and pronouns in an “it’s a phase” sort of way. But, she had a lot on her plate, and didn’t followup with the school or take her kid seriously Then, the child downed a bottle of Tylenol last year and in the resulting scramble, she found writing about their gender dysphoria and suicidal ideation. Now that she realized how serious the situation was, she is willing to do anything she can for her kid.

I don’t know what the right answer is. I know that my friend loves her child. That she has time, money, education and a willingness to do whatever it takes to get this kid to 18– alive.

I know everyone has an opinion about whether this is a “real” problem— even though it could literally kill the child (congrats, you died of a not real phenomenon. That But solutions are few and far between and contradictory.

I know she has no idea what to do. She started a therapist for her, one for the kid, and family therapy after divorce and addiction. An Al-anon.

I do know that removing this child from the household would cause long term to harm the child and their siblings. And I can’t even imagine for my friend.

I do know the cruelty of kids has gone from normal bullying to purposeful misgendering and using prior name to while explaining how the kid is going to hell, God hates them, that they don’t have to pretend she’s not a girl

I know the issues they are dealing with at school aren’t surgery and hormone blockers. It’s dress code, pronouns, bathroom access and her name.


And I know that this situation is way too complicated and sensitive for the government to be within 1000 miles of it.

But here’s the thing. The girl is sad, depressed, dealing with divorcing parents, probably spending too much time online. That’s not a person who should be getting hormones or top surgery. The law on South Dakota will protect her from medical harm during a difficult time in her life.

[Anonymous]

Yes the number of intersexed individuals is around 2%