Boy moms, you happy with your choice?

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Anonymous wrote:3 boys. All three circumsized at birth. Their father was born in another county and was not cut. He grew up in the US and wished he had been cired. He wanted boys cired and I preferred it as well. No issues or regrets. Never think about it.

We’ll probably bc he grow up in the US in the 70s-80s when it was WAY more popular than it is now. Young kids now will be an equal mix as teens

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a surgeon. In med school when I saw the procedure being done, I vowed I not only never, ever do that to my boys, not participate in it indirectly.

Circumcision is male genital mutilation. It is interesting that we in the US criticize other cultures for female genital mutilation and we do it ourselves to our boys.

The research has not played out to show a benefit to doing this at a population level. If a man engages in high risk sexual behaviors where the procedure might be beneficial, he could get the procedure himself at his own decision. I will support my sons in this regard if needed.

Liar. Study after international study shows substantial benefit from being circumcised. The CDC was forced by the religious right to claim there was no benefit while at the same time presenting a lot of evidence that circumcising improves quality of life. Why make your adolescent child have the procedure painfully when it could have been done when he was an infant? (A real surgeon would not have been disgusted by a very minor procedure.)

I thought religious ppl would want the CDC to claim there were benefits??

Yeah, DP, that bolded line made no sense to me either.

In this case, I think that "religious right" means "Christian right". Obviously, religious Jews and Muslims are pro-circumcision. The Bible Belt is so dense in this country, many people cannot fathom that every person on earth is not a conservative Christian. To them, a religious rite that is not their own should be forbidden.

I've never heard of any push from the Christian right to ban circumcision. If anything, I'd expect white, Christian conservatives from interior states to be more in support of what has been a traditional American practice than some liberal living in Brooklyn.

[Anonymous]

I’m a white American generation X parent of one boy uncircumcised. My husband is is American of Asian descent and not circumcised. No issues, my son is 7 now and all good. I have better hopes for the next generation that they are not so judgmental and mean about differences. I do fear living here in the DMV that my sweet, handsome, kind, smart boy will meet one of the daughters of the judgmental women here calling it grossly and the girl will be cruel to him.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a white American generation X parent of one boy uncircumcised. My husband is is American of Asian descent and not circumcised. No issues, my son is 7 now and all good. I have better hopes for the next generation that they are not so judgmental and mean about differences. I do fear living here in the DMV that my sweet, handsome, kind, smart boy will meet one of the daughters of the judgmental women here calling it grossly and the girl will be cruel to him.

I think women who are weirded out by it tend to be odd and offputting in other ways, and so they likely don't attract too many men in the first place. They're the equivalent of the type of guy who consider it "gross" if a woman doesn't have a purely smooth vagina.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. I attended high school, college and law school in the '80's and '90's, and dated a lot through the 2000's, until I got married. It's never been an issue. A normal woman, when she's at the point of contact with a penis is not going to run away based on one piece of skin.

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Anonymous wrote:Not American and never considered circumcising my boys.

Same. I think that a lot of Americans don't realize how out of the norm this practice is compared with other countries.

Plenty of countries where circumcision is the norm.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

I only have a daughter - but would definitely circumcise a son.

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I wish I didn't married an adhd person

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Again, Europeans don’t do this.

So obviously it’s totally unnecessary and frankly, a very stupid thing to do to a baby.

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Anonymous wrote:Not American and never considered circumcising my boys.

Same. I think that a lot of Americans don't realize how out of the norm this practice is compared with other countries.

Plenty of countries where circumcision is the norm.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

I only have a daughter - but would definitely circumcise a son.

In a lot of the countries where it's more common, there's a strong religious component to why circumcision occurs (look at the map you provided, and you'll notice that the places with high percentages of circumcision also tend to be Muslim nations). The fact that a lot of people do a certain thing for religious reasons isn't really a strong argument that the rest of us should do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:3 boys. All three circumsized at birth. Their father was born in another county and was not cut. He grew up in the US and wished he had been cired. He wanted boys cired and I preferred it as well. No issues or regrets. Never think about it.

We’ll probably bc he grow up in the US in the 70s-80s when it was WAY more popular than it is now. Young kids now will be an equal mix as teens

I am a pediatrician and I would say over 75% of white little boys are still circumcised. Maybe over 85%. And 95% of black boys are. Hispanic boys are usually not.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

If the current rate in the us is 50-50, it is skewed by the number of Hispanic births. Truly. The large majority of white male babies in the DMV are circumcised. In very liberal/hippie circles it is closer to 50-50

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

If the current rate in the us is 50-50, it is skewed by the number of Hispanic births. Truly. The large majority of white male babies in the DMV are circumcised. In very liberal/hippie circles it is closer to 50-50

Exactly this. "Oh the national average is around 50% so my son won't be the odd one out if I don't get him circumcised" is not a valid argument. If you live in an area without a large Hispanic population the rate is still close to 100% cut. I asked all my friends when my son was born and every single one got their sons circumcised. Yes, this was twelve years ago but it's still the same today.

My daughter (sixteen, very gen Z) works at a local (very hoity-toity) daycare/summer camp and there was a grand total of one boy that was uncircumcised (and apparently everyone thought it was gross to have to change him)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

If the current rate in the us is 50-50, it is skewed by the number of Hispanic births. Truly. The large majority of white male babies in the DMV are circumcised. In very liberal/hippie circles it is closer to 50-50

I wonder what it is about white people in the US (and to a lesser extent, Australia), that causes them to be an outlier when compared to even the countries that we're closest to culturally (e.g., Canada and the UK). Canada is especially striking, because they have a much lower circumcision rate than the US, even though they're culturally, economically and religiously very similar to us. Countries in Europe have circumcision rates in the single digits.

What was the driving cause that made white Americans diverge so much from white people in the rest of the world?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

"Unlike other places around the globe, the United States has a proportionately larger prevalence of circumcised males. As of 2021, the U.S. national circumcision rate was around 71%, compared to less than 20% for most European countries. Around 4 in 5 Gen Zers believed that the ideal penis should be circumcised, compared to roughly 70% of millennials and 60% of Gen Xers and baby boomers."

From a survey of over a thousand American women: https://www.medzino.com/us/manhood-shame/

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

If the current rate in the us is 50-50, it is skewed by the number of Hispanic births. Truly. The large majority of white male babies in the DMV are circumcised. In very liberal/hippie circles it is closer to 50-50

I wonder what it is about white people in the US (and to a lesser extent, Australia), that causes them to be an outlier when compared to even the countries that we're closest to culturally (e.g., Canada and the UK). Canada is especially striking, because they have a much lower circumcision rate than the US, even though they're culturally, economically and religiously very similar to us. Countries in Europe have circumcision rates in the single digits.

What was the driving cause that made white Americans diverge so much from white people in the rest of the world?

Health care providers in the US are more cognizant of the health benefits of circumcision.

https://adc.bmj.com/content/77/3/258