Boy moms, you happy with your choice?

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I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

Is there really any data out there that says Europeans/ Canadians/ Australians (with a much smaller % of circumcised men) have a greater incidence of STIs currently or historically compared to Americans (with much higher circumcision rates)?

[Anonymous]

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I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

But HE isn’t in your age bracket. Half is his peers will be uncircumcised

[Anonymous]

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I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

Is there really any data out there that says Europeans/ Canadians/ Australians (with a much smaller % of circumcised men) have a greater incidence of STIs currently or historically compared to Americans (with much higher circumcision rates)?

You might be shocked that the circumcision rates in Canada an Australia are not that far behind the US.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

It's a scientifically proven fact that circumcision lowers STI rates among all men. You seem to be asking for evidence that Whites are less prone to STIs and that data does not exist.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907642/

[Anonymous]

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I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

Is there really any data out there that says Europeans/ Canadians/ Australians (with a much smaller % of circumcised men) have a greater incidence of STIs currently or historically compared to Americans (with much higher circumcision rates)?

You might be shocked that the circumcision rates in Canada an Australia are not that far behind the US.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

It's a scientifically proven fact that circumcision lowers STI rates among all men. You seem to be asking for evidence that Whites are less prone to STIs and that data does not exist.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907642/

US is 80%+
Australia is 58%
Canada is 30%

These are big differences to me.

UK 20%
France 14%

There is absolutely no medical need in countries where hygiene is available.

[Anonymous]

Medicaid defunded insurance covered circumcision which means that now poor boys and anti-circers’ sons make up the cohort of uncircumcised young men. That posters here want to deny a 60% decrease in HIV transmission with circumcision in young men across Africa is weirdly anti-science.

[Anonymous]

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I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

Is there really any data out there that says Europeans/ Canadians/ Australians (with a much smaller % of circumcised men) have a greater incidence of STIs currently or historically compared to Americans (with much higher circumcision rates)?

You might be shocked that the circumcision rates in Canada an Australia are not that far behind the US.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

It's a scientifically proven fact that circumcision lowers STI rates among all men. You seem to be asking for evidence that Whites are less prone to STIs and that data does not exist.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907642/

US is 80%+
Australia is 58%
Canada is 30%

These are big differences to me.

UK 20%
France 14%

There is absolutely no medical need in countries where hygiene is available.

Tell that to the thousands of boys and men who had to have the procedure done after infancy because it was medically necessary. A reduced rate of STDs is not the only reason to circumcise. It's an added benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I have mixed feelings. But I made the most informed decision I could at the time.

Medically: There was a benefit in terms of reducing the incidence of STIs, particularly HIV, HPV, and syphilis. That still holds true.

Superficially: I wanted him to look like his peers. In my age bracket, almost no men were uncircumcised.

Is there really any data out there that says Europeans/ Canadians/ Australians (with a much smaller % of circumcised men) have a greater incidence of STIs currently or historically compared to Americans (with much higher circumcision rates)?

You might be shocked that the circumcision rates in Canada an Australia are not that far behind the US.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country

It's a scientifically proven fact that circumcision lowers STI rates among all men. You seem to be asking for evidence that Whites are less prone to STIs and that data does not exist.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907642/

US is 80%+
Australia is 58%
Canada is 30%

These are big differences to me.

UK 20%
France 14%

There is absolutely no medical need in countries where hygiene is available.

Declining Rates of U.S. Infant Male Circumcision Could Add Billions to Health Care Costs, Experts Warn
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/declining_rates_of_us_infant_male_circumcision_could_add_billions_to_health_care_costs_experts_warn

[Anonymous]

Just asked my 19 yo DS this question. He chuckled and told
me that he was glad he was circumcised. I just gave him a look and he said his few buddies who aren’t always have too much explaining to do.I didn’t ask for any more details.

[Anonymous]

Mayo Clinic lays out their position very clearly.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/about/pac-20393550

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gonna be honest I regret not doing it. He's really self-conscious about it and I need to constantly remind him about the extra cleaning (though that might just be middle school)

I guarantee there is no need to remind about extra cleaning in middle school. Stop micromanaging your tween’s penis.

“Guarantee” you’re wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.

They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.

After he came home.

And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.

Are you trying to say it is unlikely that this newborn baby was crying from pain? So you’re saying that cutting off a piece of your skin (forget that it’s a particularly sensitive area with insane amounts of nerve endings, let’s just say any skin) would not be painful?

It’s just as painful for babies to get the tip of their genitals chopped off as it is for anyone. They just can’t communicate how painful it is and they don’t remember it later.

I’m not even anti-circumcision really but I hate that we pretend it is not an intensely painful ordeal for a human being to go through.

Since the sister said it was after he got home and not during the circumcision? Yes. Yes, I am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.

I cant even remember any agony from mt newborn so rhar is weird that you think you remember it as a child...

Maybe I am more sensitive and have more empathy than you do.

Boy I’m getting a lot of smoke for a very innocuous comment.

Maybe you’re a needlessly smug, judgmental schoolmarm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.

I cant even remember any agony from mt newborn so rhar is weird that you think you remember it as a child...

Maybe I am more sensitive and have more empathy than you do.

Boy I’m getting a lot of smoke for a very innocuous comment.

Lol your innocuous comment was, and I quote, "It is genital mutilation!.... I will never forget his agony!"

The melodrama is out of control.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did not circumcise my older son, will not circumcise the son I am pregnant with. It is genital mutilation! I was ten when my baby brother got circumcised and I will never forget his agony as an infant. No thank you.

They let a child watch the procedure? Weird.

After he came home.

And you're positive it was from .... the circumcision? Not just because he was a newborn and newborns cry a lot? Seems like a stretch to me.

My son had it done, DHs choice so I insisted he a company for the procedure. He came back ashen and the baby refused to nurse for 2 days, broke his little spirit. DH said in event of another son he would not circ.

Oh, grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe current rate in the US is close 50/50.

So while boomer parents cannot fathom choosing not to circumcise, and most of the children were circumcised, the US is a different place now. Lots of people are making more educated choses about healthcare vs the old thinking of "it looks funny/gross" if you don't circumcise. Plus more immigration. The 1970s-90s practice norms are dying. So while you personally may think it looks weird or girls won't like it, or some of the other dumb reasons since it was the norm in your generation- that will not the experience and opinions of the next generation of teens that are now young children.

I think this is a good point. Boomer and older Gen X women might thinks an uncut guy is "weird." But, younger women have probably experienced both worlds, and don't have a hangup about it, one way or the other.

It's just an odd old American practice that is dying out.

If the current rate in the us is 50-50, it is skewed by the number of Hispanic births. Truly. The large majority of white male babies in the DMV are circumcised. In very liberal/hippie circles it is closer to 50-50

Exactly this. "Oh the national average is around 50% so my son won't be the odd one out if I don't get him circumcised" is not a valid argument. If you live in an area without a large Hispanic population the rate is still close to 100% cut. I asked all my friends when my son was born and every single one got their sons circumcised. Yes, this was twelve years ago but it's still the same today.

My daughter (sixteen, very gen Z) works at a local (very hoity-toity) daycare/summer camp and there was a grand total of one boy that was uncircumcised (and apparently everyone thought it was gross to have to change him)

Okay, I circ’d my son, but I hate this trope of uncircumcised penises as “gross.” It’s a variation of a body part. No need to shame.

It's so weird. It basically means that people are having cosmetic surgery performed on infants.

Imagine how a parent feels when hearing that their kid may have people “eww-ing” their infant kid while supposedly taking care of him. It’s not a feeling of wanting to circ my kid [b]it’s a feeling more like go to hell I’ll have nothing to do with your sick mutilation cult[i].

Are you always this melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

Now please be oh-so-predictable and clap back with some variation of oBvIoUsLy I sTrUcK a NeRvE, so we can laugh at you more. Thanks in advance.