A plea: please stop sending your sick kids to school

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

In some cases, but I've known SAHM to do this as well. Sometimes it is ok to call a spade a spade.

So one lady did one thing one time....and now you get to slam all parents who have some likely serious issues going on where they can't pick up kids that are going to the ER? I'm impressed by the general lack of empathy.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

Oh please, no one is attacking teachers. There are far, far more parent-shaming posts in this thread. Why don't you care about that?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

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You know, if there were a bunch of posts talking about how an individual teacher did this or that negative thing, and other people started talking about how "teachers of this one demographic group do this all the time".....that thread would be deleted as it would look like teacher-bashing.

But oddly, on a parenting site, it's fine to do this kind of thing to parents.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

Another DP. School is not child care so you can go to work. Guess who also has to work? Teachers and other school employees.

When you choose to have kids, you choose to accept the responsibilities that you have to take care of their health. Your work doesn't come first. You don't choose to have kids, if you cannot provide for them reasonably. So yeah, I think a lot of parents have ill intent.

And look, I come from immigrant parents who *knew* how to hustle and juggle shit. It was hard - but while you have to work, you choose to have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

Another DP. School is not child care so you can go to work. Guess who also has to work? Teachers and other school employees.

When you choose to have kids, you choose to accept the responsibilities that you have to take care of their health. Your work doesn't come first. You don't choose to have kids, if you cannot provide for them reasonably. So yeah, I think a lot of parents have ill intent.

And look, I come from immigrant parents who *knew* how to hustle and juggle shit. It was hard - but while you have to work, you choose to have kids.

Read up on the history of free public education. It absolutely does, in part, serve as child care so parents can work.

Regardless, no one has actually said it's ok for kids to go to school with a fever or other clear signs of an active infection. They're saying it's fine for kids with cough/congestion to go to school.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

I. Don't. Care. You're putting my kid's health, my ability to work at risk. And I understand: I grew up very poor. My parents did not send me to school sick. It's a shi--y and selfish thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

I. Don't. Care. You're putting my kid's health, my ability to work at risk. And I understand: I grew up very poor. My parents did not send me to school sick. It's a shi--y and selfish thing to do.

NP and I know this won’t be taken well but I mean this in all sincerity- I think you should consider a job that isn’t public facing. People go out sick all the time. It might put you more at peace.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

I. Don't. Care. You're putting my kid's health, my ability to work at risk. And I understand: I grew up very poor. My parents did not send me to school sick. It's a shi--y and selfish thing to do.

NP and I know this won’t be taken well but I mean this in all sincerity- I think you should consider a job that isn’t public facing. People go out sick all the time. It might put you more at peace.

Since there is a school staffing shortage and you don’t mind sick kids, how about you do the job?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

I. Don't. Care. You're putting my kid's health, my ability to work at risk. And I understand: I grew up very poor. My parents did not send me to school sick. It's a shi--y and selfish thing to do.

NP and I know this won’t be taken well but I mean this in all sincerity- I think you should consider a job that isn’t public facing. People go out sick all the time. It might put you more at peace.

Since there is a school staffing shortage and you don’t mind sick kids, how about you do the job?

DP but this comment made me laugh because I actually am a sub at my kids school and they called to see if I could come in tomorrow to sub for a class but I can’t because… my kid is sick after catching something in school last week, so I have to stay home with her.

It’s almost like it’s November and there’s stuff going around and it’s hard on literally everyone involved with kids and schools — parents, teachers, kids, pediatricians, you name it.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

I. Don't. Care. You're putting my kid's health, my ability to work at risk. And I understand: I grew up very poor. My parents did not send me to school sick. It's a shi--y and selfish thing to do.

Really, you need to get some empathy. Or at least recognize that your anger at parents (in particular, single parents, which you did not seem to grow up with) doesn't do anyone any good. Parents aren't actually the enemy.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

I’m not the PP you are replying to. Some of the parents fall into this category. However I have worked in an elementary in a high income area for a long time. My experience has been that it is more often the highly paid professionals that refuse to come get their kids or medicate and send them to school. The parents working hourly jobs more often keep the kids home or get family to look after them once they’re well enough.

Somehow I doubt you know what's going on with every parent. And I do think that you are just generally venting your hatred of parents on an anonymous forum.

I’m a DP.

I have over 20 years of experience walking very sick kids to the nurse, hoping they’ll be sent home. I’ve sat with these sick students as they cry, saying their parents are aware they are sick but sent them anyway. I’ve sat with them as they plead to be picked up because their temp is now 102 since the medicine wore off, only to be told to stay in school. I’ve checked on these kids as they remain at the nurse’s station for the remainder of the day, too ill to go to class. This doesn’t happen once a year. This happens MANY TIMES.

This is obviously not a criticism of every parent, although I’m sure some DCUMer will take it that way. This is a criticism of those who willingly do this to their children, not those who have no alternative.

And the conclusion from other posters is that these parents "hate their children" (see multiple posts in this thread). It seems difficult to imagine for most people on this thread that the circumstance that lead to this heart-rendering circumstance is not "parents hate their children" or "parents don't care" or some other derogatory thing. It is that those parents have to be at work. People can have empathy or they can decide ill-intent is at play. They can reserve judgement for a situation that likely do not understand.

Another DP. School is not child care so you can go to work. Guess who also has to work? Teachers and other school employees.

When you choose to have kids, you choose to accept the responsibilities that you have to take care of their health. Your work doesn't come first. You don't choose to have kids, if you cannot provide for them reasonably. So yeah, I think a lot of parents have ill intent.

And look, I come from immigrant parents who *knew* how to hustle and juggle shit. It was hard - but while you have to work, you choose to have kids.

Ah, we're back in the "you should have aborted your kids" fake solution. It really is the most base, vile parent-shaming.

It just seems you are hopelessly unaware of the issues with poverty.