A plea: please stop sending your sick kids to school

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Anonymous wrote:I’m also tired of parents calling on call sitters to care for their sick kids AND NOT DISCLOSING ILLNESS. I arrived to a booking today through an agency and promptly left when I found out the kids were super sick. Parents were so mad and the agency supported me. Enough with parents being so inconsiderate!!!!! I’m not your nanny, I’m an on call sitter. I’m not risking getting sick when you don’t give me sick days. I get sick, I can’t work. So selfish!!

Humm... why do you think a family would use a sitter for school aged kids during the school day.

Yeah, I mean the family should still disclose the illness but the main reason on call sitter services exist is for families who can't send their kids to school or daycare due to illness. Sometimes it might be something like a nanny going out of town or a SAHP who is sick or has to travel. but I'd bet more than half of the people using those services are just looking for emergency care for sick kids. You'd think one of the first questions the service would ask is "are the kids sick? what are their symptoms? what is your policy on masks?" It's just practical.

Anytime it's a school-aged child during school hours, except if that child is in virtual school, you can expect those kids to be sick. The service gets paid by the family so they aren't going to ask as then they'd lose money. If a SAHP is sick, the sitter should not be in the house either if they don't want to catch something.

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Anonymous wrote:Then teachers need to make it less stressful for then to miss. Starting n grade 4 i leave it up to my kids. Vomiting is stay home until 24hrs puke free, but anything else is up to them. Their classes are intense and they feel the pain if they miss important lessons.

I meet virtually with my sick AP students at the end of the school day and deliver the whole lesson to them. I want them HOME.

I’m reading through these posts astounded at the “teachers signed up for this” and “my kid is going to school no matter what” posts. We really have lost all sense of community.

It is great you are willing to reteach a lesson virtually after school. The vast majority of teachers are not, nor should they be expected to. If a kid has a lingering cough or runny nose, they should be at school. If they have a fever or are very ill they should be resting not trying to learn a lesson on zoom from the day.

No, sick people should stay home and not spread it so these teachers don't have to work overtime to fix your selfish behavior. The spread needs to stop. Sick kids in school are not learning anything and just spreading their illness to others.

Someone with a lingering cough or a runny nose isn’t necessarily contagious, or even sick. It’s ridiculous to expect kids with a cough or runny nose to stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:It's weird to argue that parents don't understand what it's like to be in charge of small children. I... have kids. Yes I have had a 3 year old with a cold randomly put her hand in my mouth. Yes, I have been handed any number of randomly wet items and been unsure why they were wet or where they had come from. I've been sneezed on, peed on, vomited on. I've cleaned poop out of underwear and carpets and the drain in the bathtub. I'm a mom. This is how kids are.

And, it stands to reason, I don't want my kid getting sick at school or daycare because, as the main person cleaning up after their bodily fluid, I'm going to get it. So of course I think parents should keep their kids home when sick, and I do. BUT I'm also aware that they don't always, and that germs spread even when parents keep the very sick kids home, and that inevitably my kid will get sick, and inevitably I will get sick too. It is what it is.

It's just strange to argue that the parents of your preschoolers don't know what it's like to work with preschoolers or to act like we are selfishly sending our sick kids to you so that we can go to more fun things. They are our kids. We know what is up.

Exactly. So then why were the PPs arguing that teachers don't have to do tasks like that? I dunno, but I had to argue it. It is strange! I'm not arguing with parents of my preschoolers as they are absolutely awesome. I'm arguing with people on this thread that stated teachers don't have to do that kind of work when I do. Everyday, in a public school, here in the DVM. That is all. If you think we aren't highly exposed to germs, think again. I didn't act like anyone was being selfish or even say kids with runny noses and coughs shouldn't be in school. Maybe that was said by another PP?

I don't think anyone was saying that teachers don't have to do tasks like that. We were saying that there are other jobs where you have to be in close contact with people who might be sick, even clean up their bodily fluids. And that while of course everyone wants people who are sick to stay home, typically if you are in one of these jobs, you accept that you will be exposed to other people's germs and have a higher risk of getting sick, especially during cold and flu season. Which is why when a teacher comes on and says "you don't understand, people are sending these kids to school and some of them are sick and it's going to get me sick!" the response is often, "yes, and?" It's the same for flight attendants, nurses and doctors, some retail workers, childcare workers, etc. etc. AND its' the same for parents, whose kids often come home from school or daycare with illnesses and not only do the kids infect the rest of the family but then the parents must care for the sick kids and for themselves while everyone is sick. It sucks! It's also just kind of the way it is.

I say this as someone who keeps my kid home when sick. In fact, my kid has been home this week with a brutal cold which I now also have. But she didn't get it at school -- her dad brought it home from a work trip and despite our best efforts it's working its way through the family. But he's not yelling at his colleagues or the people on the plane or in airports or whoever gave it to him. He just accepts that it's November, it's an extra bad year for these viruses, and somehow he got sick. Oh well.

Yes, they did argue that. Hence my response.

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Anonymous wrote:It's weird to argue that parents don't understand what it's like to be in charge of small children. I... have kids. Yes I have had a 3 year old with a cold randomly put her hand in my mouth. Yes, I have been handed any number of randomly wet items and been unsure why they were wet or where they had come from. I've been sneezed on, peed on, vomited on. I've cleaned poop out of underwear and carpets and the drain in the bathtub. I'm a mom. This is how kids are.

And, it stands to reason, I don't want my kid getting sick at school or daycare because, as the main person cleaning up after their bodily fluid, I'm going to get it. So of course I think parents should keep their kids home when sick, and I do. BUT I'm also aware that they don't always, and that germs spread even when parents keep the very sick kids home, and that inevitably my kid will get sick, and inevitably I will get sick too. It is what it is.

It's just strange to argue that the parents of your preschoolers don't know what it's like to work with preschoolers or to act like we are selfishly sending our sick kids to you so that we can go to more fun things. They are our kids. We know what is up.

Exactly. So then why were the PPs arguing that teachers don't have to do tasks like that? I dunno, but I had to argue it. It is strange! I'm not arguing with parents of my preschoolers as they are absolutely awesome. I'm arguing with people on this thread that stated teachers don't have to do that kind of work when I do. Everyday, in a public school, here in the DVM. That is all. If you think we aren't highly exposed to germs, think again. I didn't act like anyone was being selfish or even say kids with runny noses and coughs shouldn't be in school. Maybe that was said by another PP?

I don't think anyone was saying that teachers don't have to do tasks like that. We were saying that there are other jobs where you have to be in close contact with people who might be sick, even clean up their bodily fluids. And that while of course everyone wants people who are sick to stay home, typically if you are in one of these jobs, you accept that you will be exposed to other people's germs and have a higher risk of getting sick, especially during cold and flu season. Which is why when a teacher comes on and says "you don't understand, people are sending these kids to school and some of them are sick and it's going to get me sick!" the response is often, "yes, and?" It's the same for flight attendants, nurses and doctors, some retail workers, childcare workers, etc. etc. AND its' the same for parents, whose kids often come home from school or daycare with illnesses and not only do the kids infect the rest of the family but then the parents must care for the sick kids and for themselves while everyone is sick. It sucks! It's also just kind of the way it is.

I say this as someone who keeps my kid home when sick. In fact, my kid has been home this week with a brutal cold which I now also have. But she didn't get it at school -- her dad brought it home from a work trip and despite our best efforts it's working its way through the family. But he's not yelling at his colleagues or the people on the plane or in airports or whoever gave it to him. He just accepts that it's November, it's an extra bad year for these viruses, and somehow he got sick. Oh well.

Yes, they did argue that. Hence my response.

There was a teacher that argued that pee was sterile so that it didn’t matter that other people (and herself) had to clean up pee. The response was to a person describing cleaning public restrooms, the suggestion being that the teacher has more risk because pee is sterile, and she can’t social distance from children, while apparently food service workers can.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

In some cases, but I've known SAHM to do this as well. Sometimes it is ok to call a spade a spade.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

LOL this whole thread is about attacking parents. And the comments that you are linking to are where a school secretary said that parents who can't pick up sick kids should feel ashamed. So yeah...uh...kind of get a clue on the context here.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

LOL this whole thread is about attacking parents. And the comments that you are linking to are where a school secretary said that parents who can't pick up sick kids should feel ashamed. So yeah...uh...kind of get a clue on the context here.

If you aren’t sending your children to school when they are very sick, why are you feeling attacked?

I keep my kids home when they have fevers. I don’t feel attacked by the comments on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

LOL this whole thread is about attacking parents. And the comments that you are linking to are where a school secretary said that parents who can't pick up sick kids should feel ashamed. So yeah...uh...kind of get a clue on the context here.

Parents should not be sending sick kids into school. Its not fair to the limited school staff who have jobs to do and if they get sick, cannot do their job. You should be ashamed if you choose send your sick kid in or refuse to pick them up. Its part of parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

LOL this whole thread is about attacking parents. And the comments that you are linking to are where a school secretary said that parents who can't pick up sick kids should feel ashamed. So yeah...uh...kind of get a clue on the context here.

Sarcasm is a form of attack

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has tested negative for everything and still is coughing three weeks in; this is lifetime pattern for him due to asthma. How long should I keep him out of school?

You don't actually know everything.

Bullshit. He has SOMETHING, just not what he's been tested for. Thanks for passing whatever it is along to others.

NP. Sorry, I’m not keeping my kid home for three weeks for a lingering cough you psycho.

We're not saying to keep your kid home for 3 weeks. But 3 days. That's doable. There are so many parents who send their poor suffering kids to school when they're clearly ill.

Or scream at me and demand I send their child (who “wasn’t sick this morning!”) back to class despite the fact that the child has a concerning, phlegmy barking cough. Then to really “show me” takes over two hours to collect her child from the clinic.

I’ve had parents tell me that they can’t come to school to pick up because of work, then situation changes for the worst and child goes to the ER with an administrator.

So we are seeing this right now. As a secretary, I have had 7 students rushed to the ER for breathing issues, non-stop projectile vomiting and fevers that soar very high after the Tylenol wears off. These parents were called repeatedly and either did not answer or answered and said they could not collect their child and gave consent for them to be taken to an urgent care or ER. Shame!

I mean, this sounds like an issue about poverty, single-parenthood, lack of protections for people who work, etc. Morality (and shame) shouldn't be involved.

Yes, school staff should solve all social problems and do it with a smile while covering 3 peoples jobs!

It’s just the way it is!

DP and no one said that. But the parents pumping their kids with Tylenol and sending them to school very sick and then refusing to come get them? Are not people who will be helped by a shaming post on DCUM. They need other social supports like more sick leave and worker protections, sick day care for their kids provided by the public, parenting and mental health support, etc. They won’t read these posts and feel embarrassed and then stop doing this. These are acts of desperation by people who have very limited choices in life.

Ok then, please go lobby for that. No one is going to listen to school staff, so since you seem to have a tinge of social justice in you, please get off this forum and go argue for that in an arena that will bring change.

As many many things do, this post turned into attacking teachers in supposedly friendly forum where parents have the means to not send kids to school sick, so good luck out there fighting the good fight!

LOL this whole thread is about attacking parents. And the comments that you are linking to are where a school secretary said that parents who can't pick up sick kids should feel ashamed. So yeah...uh...kind of get a clue on the context here.

Sarcasm is a form of attack

Oh lord, your response is, "but your response to our attacks is an attack!"