A plea: please stop sending your sick kids to school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

No, parents asking other parents to keep their sick kids home and not infect the rest of us. How is that unreasonable?

Because read the thread.

As has been reiterated a number of times in this thread, kids have colds, etc. all of the time during this season. They are not avoidable. Making parents take 8 weeks of work off (e.g., one week for each cold) is obviously not something that's going to happen. Because parents need to work to support their children. (Sidenote: there was also recently a thread on here shaming people for trying to get sick care sitters. That's the back-up for single parents.)

So instead of recognizing these very basic truths (colds exist + people have to work), people like yourself come on here and harp about those parents hating their kids, having no community feeling, not caring about teachers. People are literally saying that parents who send sick-with-colds kids to school should feel "shame."

All these types of threads do is try to shame parents to behave differently. Ergo, it's just about shaming parents.

The colds keep circulating because parents like you keep sending their kids in sick, which punishes the rest of us who keep our kids home. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have to think at this stage you are a troll.

No, you are a, troll if you cannot understand you giving our families cold, flu and Covid every few weeks is an issue.

[Anonymous]

A mild cold is one thing. Strep, RSV, flu, covid, are another. Parents are definitely sending kids to school when they're contagious and symptomatic.

I had one parent pick up her obviously sick child to go to a doctor's appointment. The parent iterated that it was a "well visit" about 4 times. Gee, you sure about that?

Then brought the kid back to school. Several teachers and 7 kids out a few days later with strep. Parents lie, are jerks about, and we know it. And we talk about it. And yes, I'm sure we all got sick from this particular kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is talking about keeping kids with a little runny nose home. I had two students who were absolutely miserable today. Heads down on their desks, deep wet coughs that they didn’t have last week, clearly out of it. Their parents both avoided answering the school’s phone calls. The nurse put a mask on them and sent them back to class. I stayed far away from them all day, and I mask. I have two vulnerable relatives coming to my thanksgiving, and I know I’m not the only one. Their behavior is selfish. You have a busy day at work? Join the club! So do I and so do all the parents of the other kids in the class. I feel awful for the kids who are sitting in class, clearly ill, and I feel bad that the other parents aren’t witnessing this scene so they can decide to mask their own child.

People are exactly doing this by yelling "Keep sick kids at home!" and complaining about not ending COLDS by not keeping their kids home.

It's tiring, shaming, and unrealistic.

A runny nose is a cold and often contagious.

Don't care. A cold is not a reason to keep a kid home.

We all get colds in cold season. There has never been a way to completely avoid it. Welcome to reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

No, parents asking other parents to keep their sick kids home and not infect the rest of us. How is that unreasonable?

Because read the thread.

As has been reiterated a number of times in this thread, kids have colds, etc. all of the time during this season. They are not avoidable. Making parents take 8 weeks of work off (e.g., one week for each cold) is obviously not something that's going to happen. Because parents need to work to support their children. (Sidenote: there was also recently a thread on here shaming people for trying to get sick care sitters. That's the back-up for single parents.)

So instead of recognizing these very basic truths (colds exist + people have to work), people like yourself come on here and harp about those parents hating their kids, having no community feeling, not caring about teachers. People are literally saying that parents who send sick-with-colds kids to school should feel "shame."

All these types of threads do is try to shame parents to behave differently. Ergo, it's just about shaming parents.

The colds keep circulating because parents like you keep sending their kids in sick, which punishes the rest of us who keep our kids home. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have to think at this stage you are a troll.

No, you are a, troll if you cannot understand you giving our families cold, flu and Covid every few weeks is an issue.

You moved the goal posts, troll. From "colds" to "cold, flu, and Covid."

[Anonymous]

Well my DD just came home yesterday and said her table-mate/friend who had already missed 2 days of school last Thurs/Fri was back but said she had a fever and that her stomach hurt. My DD also said she didn't play at recess but stayed with the teacher.

I'm sure that child's parent has a nice story about how they can't miss anymore work and/or how their 1st grader can't miss anymore school. The end result though is that there is a good possibility we (and other families in class + the teacher) will need to alter our Thx plans now as an activity contagious child with what sounds like the flu or Covid was sent back early to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well my DD just came home yesterday and said her table-mate/friend who had already missed 2 days of school last Thurs/Fri was back but said she had a fever and that her stomach hurt. My DD also said she didn't play at recess but stayed with the teacher.

I'm sure that child's parent has a nice story about how they can't miss anymore work and/or how their 1st grader can't miss anymore school. The end result though is that there is a good possibility we (and other families in class + the teacher) will need to alter our Thx plans now as an activity contagious child with what sounds like the flu or Covid was sent back early to school.

If she had a fever why wasn’t she in the health room?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well my DD just came home yesterday and said her table-mate/friend who had already missed 2 days of school last Thurs/Fri was back but said she had a fever and that her stomach hurt. My DD also said she didn't play at recess but stayed with the teacher.

I'm sure that child's parent has a nice story about how they can't miss anymore work and/or how their 1st grader can't miss anymore school. The end result though is that there is a good possibility we (and other families in class + the teacher) will need to alter our Thx plans now as an activity contagious child with what sounds like the flu or Covid was sent back early to school.

If she had a fever why wasn’t she in the health room?

Well since you asked my DD said that her friend was told by her mom not to tell anyone she had a fever when she took Tylenol in the morning. I purposely was trying not to mom shame with those details as who knows what circumstances caused her to do that. I'm just trying to point out the collateral "damage" on others to all those previous posters talking about how we should all care a little bit more about the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

When you have kids, you need to use your sick and annual leave for your kids and not be under some delusion you get all this vacation and other free time. Public schools are not child care. You need back up child care. If you have two working parents, more than likely, especially if you are on this board, you can afford it but choose to spend your money in other ways like travel, nice house in "good" school district, etc. and then expect free child care. There IS affordable child care. You just don't qualify for it because of your income level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

Disagree on the "spirit of the OP." And maybe if you are trying to be the "voice of reason" don't inject so such sneering snark that obviously devalues certain perspectives.

But anyway....

I agree completely that the enemy is family un-friendly policies that force parents to either go broke or send their (very) sick kids to school. So perhaps the people on this thread can turn their ire there, versus being consistently jack-holes to parents. Perhaps they can stop pretending that this is an individual, versus a collective, problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

When you have kids, you need to use your sick and annual leave for your kids and not be under some delusion you get all this vacation and other free time. Public schools are not child care. You need back up child care. If you have two working parents, more than likely, especially if you are on this board, you can afford it but choose to spend your money in other ways like travel, nice house in "good" school district, etc. and then expect free child care. There IS affordable child care. You just don't qualify for it because of your income level.

Can you point us to this affordable magical back up childcare that is available as needed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll reiterate that this thread, at base, is just about shaming parents.

So what. Sometimes people need to be shamed when they act badly.

Reading these threads are so depressing. People don't listen to each other. A teacher wants you to keep your kids home when they are contagious. The OP clarified they were talking about just a few days, not week, but you have pages of posters droning on and on about extremes.

People are selfish and stupid.

Yeah, there's that person that seems selfish and stupid going on about keeping kids home for colds.

That person apparently has no empathy for parents and can't think of the community.

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

But the spirit of the OP was about people who send their kids in too soon when they are truly sick (fever etc) and contagious.

And you have proven my point about the stupid in this thread of focusing on extremes. Ugh. Morons. Covid-pandemic brain rot....everyone is trying to keep my kids out of schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


The real problem here is capitalism and family-UNfriendly policies that make it hard for so many parents to just stay home and care for sick children (or their sick selves).

So everyone can agree we should all elect representatives that will fight for more family-friendly maternity and sick-leave policies...right?? right!!??

The societal problems run much deeper than leave policies. Yes, we need more leave for everyone. But we also need jobs with workloads that allow the use of the leave. If you want sick kids to stay home, it must be easy for them to make up the work they miss. There needs to be affordable childcare for working parents who have exhausted their leave or for parents to use for the myriad school holidays so that they can avoid exhausting their leave for reasons not related to leisure or sickness. Public schools refuse to adjust, even in the slightest, to the reality that most families have two working parents. Impossible demands on the community lead to questionable decisions that undermine community health.

When you have kids, you need to use your sick and annual leave for your kids and not be under some delusion you get all this vacation and other free time. Public schools are not child care. You need back up child care. If you have two working parents, more than likely, especially if you are on this board, you can afford it but choose to spend your money in other ways like travel, nice house in "good" school district, etc. and then expect free child care. There IS affordable child care. You just don't qualify for it because of your income level.

Public schools actually are meant to be child care so people can work.

No, not everyone on this board is in your income bracket.

No, not all children have parents that can afford back-up care (plus you can't hire sick care).

No, not everyone on this board is married.

You really have no ability to see outside of your judgement.