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I can *maybe* believe your story if your friend was insisting on finding a charge point charger (presumably because he gets free charging from them) But that’s like saying that you had to drive so far out of your way for gas, but only being willing to fill up at an Exxon station. He should have been willing to pay to charge at electrifyamerica or EVGo or other public stations. |
Give it a rest, clown. There are plenty of stories out there like this. |
It’s a good try to educate that PP but his mind is closed up. |
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A few reasons:
Climate change is a hoax. If you believe climate change is real, Democrats would support a carbon tax on Chinese goods because the Chinese emit more carbon per unit of economic production. Of course, Democrats don't do that because they prefer to regulate American behavior. Electric cars don't work well for overall use. They're fine for daily commuters but terrible for medium-length trips, especially in cold climates. Electric cars are tax handouts to the rich. It's ridiculous. Further, battery replacement is a cost that is not well understood. The same people who claimed we were at peak oil (and were wrong) are the same ones who say we need electric cars. They're not credible. In short, if you want an electric car, I suggest you get one. Just don't ask me to pay for your frivolous vehicle with a tax subsidy. If you believe climate change is serious, embrace serious solutions that will get the most bang for the buck and don't buy beachfront property you think will be flooded. Until then, stop bugging the rest of us with your moral preening. |
You are the one with a closed mind. You can literally go read up about charging infrastructure and experiences for non-Teslas and step out of your ignorance, but you choose not to. Very fitting that the DCUM demo is a bunch of city-dwelling Tesla junkies stuck in their own bubbles. |
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https://www.theautopian.com/car-companies-are-beyond-fed-up-with-electrify-america-report/ |
NP. OMG, where to start with all this faux news? Anthropogenic climate change in not a hoax, read up on some of the basic science, geez. DCUM needs to upgrade the quality of its conservatives. Dems are much more likely to support a carbon tax than Cons. But free trade is a very different thing and if Dems taxed Chinese imports then Cons would be raging about how Dems were destroying American consumers. Also trade is subject to WTO and climate agreements. I've taken my EV on longish road trips. It's not a Tesla, either. After the first trip I realized I needed to do a little planning, and now we just stop for 45 minutes for a full charge while we stop in the bathrooms and get snacks. And how are EVs "handouts for the rich" when you can get pretty cheap EV's like the Bolt, Leaf and Kona and still get the tax credit? Educate yourself. |
As I said. Their minds are closed, and that’s how the GOP likes them. Because if all of those little GOP sheep realized that climate change is real and caused by burning carbon, they might begin to feel remorse for their part in destroying our little blue marble. This way they can feel good about themselves! and pretend that it’s the Democrats who are at fault. |
Please tell me what model has the best record of predicting climate change. Once you have done that, I will verify if its methodology and data are publicly available for analysis. I will then review its track record. The single biggest emitter is China. If Dems were serious (they're not), they'd want to stop the biggest source. The fact that they don't shows they are not serious. "Longish" is doing some work. You can't do those in cold weather. I don't care if people get an electric car. I considered it myself. But the tax credits are a scam for rich people. The fact you tell me to educate myself while saying I can get a Bolt for cheap is hysterical. You realize they're stopping production on the Bolt. What kind of stable genius is going to buy a vehicle where parts will be hard to find in the future? And how many rich people buy the Leaf? In my neck of the woods, there are lots of decidedly not cheap EVs everywhere, many of which likely received credits. |
My mind is totally open. Please tell me what is the best single study for predicting "climate change." You libs love to talk about the scientific consensus. Fine. Let's debate the science. So tell me which study/model is the best. In most cases, libs can't because they outsource their thinking to institutions. They talk about the scientific community's consensus while remaining blissfully unaware of the replication crisis. Science is the formation of a hypothetis, testing it, and then independently validating it. So show me what model has been independently validated. I'm numerate--I'll look at the figures myself, assuming the data are publicly available, which they rarely are. Weird how these studies are so "scientific" but don't do things consistently with the scientific process we teach fourth graders. As I noted, you won't question that because you have outsourced your thinking. But prove me wrong with the best study that has publicly available data. |
Basically all the auto manufacturers are switching to Tesla chargers, so yeah, everybody is pretty much "getting a Tesla." Shocking that someone so ignorant about EVs hasn't heard. |
This is the dumbest "counterargument" I've ever heard. There doesn't need to be a "single best study for predicting climate change" when all of the studies are coming to the same conclusion regarding global temperatures. It's like you're trying to argue that hurricanes don't exist because sometimes the Euro or GFS don't predict the correct track. |
Uh huh...I was the one that raised Tesla opening their charging infra in the first place. Just admit you were wrong and keep it pushing. |
I just don't get this reasoning. It's the next generation of automotive technology, that's all. Early adopters tend to be wealthier, because they can afford to buy new technologies that are still expensive. Did your DH's great-grandfather stubbornly persist in driving his horse buggy around because he thought the swells with jalopies were thumbing their noses at him? |
Reminder: Trump completely abandoned the Paris accord and lifted any and all expectations off of China. Biden on the other hand returned to the Paris agreement table and got China to come to the table as well, and got them to commit to a timeline. And right now, China is far outpacing the entire rest of the world combined in terms of how much solar and alternative energy they are building out. Also, the IPCC Report tells you what models, and what data are being used, in great detail, along with how the models perform and how they were evaluated. Along with providing hundreds of citations for further reading and research. And yes, they do in fact follow the scientific method, far and above what one is taught as a fourth grader. There is no secrecy and no "weirdness" about any of it. |