Jackie Onassis is a terrible example to use. Hardly inspiring. Diana's problem was that she was still mother of the future king. Her popularity would have depended entirely on how she behaved, and in her last year there was plenty of public disapproval of her running around with Dodi Fayed. A sympathetic British commented to me that it was a blessing Diana died when she died because her life was only getting messier. Realistically, she should have tried to find happiness with a stable and solid man and quietly retreated to a quiet life somewhere. But she couldn't give up the cameras and paparazzi (parallels with Meghan Markle, when you think about it). It's intriguing how Camilla has a very different relationship with the press despite they being much more hostile to her for a long time. She knew how to handle the press while preserving her own privacy, something Diana never could (and ditto for Meghan Markle). |
You think people 'approved' of Jackie marrying a 60-year-old reclusive Greek shipping magnate? Nope. She just didn't care. She wanted to get out of the U.S. and access to billions which would provide for her and her children. And she did. That's the reason Diana pursued Fayed. She was British by birth - there was nowhere to retreat. Her own brother turned her away, the aristos sided with Charles and his mistress, and it was an island where everyone was in her business. There's a reason aristos who have affairs flee overseas. They have no support. And Camilla has no privacy to preserve. Her phone sex tapes with Charles were already public and her antics as well as the aristo homes they were having sexual escapades in all up-and-down England were all well-known. She'd hit bottom - as long as she and Charles sold out whoever and gave the press a bit of a tipsy dance with the future 'Princess Consort' - she went up in their esteem. *Camilla literally hand-in-hand in the arms of the tabloids (the lead photographer of the Sun)*
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I understand, and at the same time, Diana was a fool to marry him. How often do you read about happy Queens in English history?
Charles's marriage should have been treated like a business transaction; the finacee should have known what she was getting into and had no qualms about his mistress(es). I do believe the powers behind the crown were responsible for Diana's accident. I think sometimes we (Americans) see the crown as a quaint anachronism, like a form of Disney entertainment, something that attracts tourists and is pretty and fantastical. But I think the people in the crown circle take themselves - and all that money and privilege - very, very seriously. There is no way they were going to tolerate a Muslim stepdad, perhaps a Muslim half-sibling, to the future King of England. Queens have been killed for much, much less. |
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Yeah, the Spencers threw Diana under the bus multiple times, guys. Her mom was negligent, her sisters pressured her to marry Charles even after Diana had learned about Camilla because "your name's already on all the tea towels" and the wedding invitations had all gone out. And the current Earl Spencer - the same one who refused to support Diana, and who is currently estranged from his daughter Kitty Spencer - now is exploiting his sister's image with a "Diana museum" and a "Diana island" at his manor house so that the tourists will flock there.
Earl Spencer actually reminds me of Prince Andrew a LOT tbh. Just the vibe I get. |
Nope. She didn’t get the wedding, the heirs. Always the mistress. |
Women who aren't idiots don't care about princess weddings and heirs. Who cares about getting to weir a tiara when you're a basket care who can't even hold her own head up. Camilla got everything out of life that a sensible person would want. She's alive and well, she's rich, and she's happily married. If Diana were alive right now, she'd probably be on her fourth marriage and addicted to painkillers and plastic surgery. |
Considering the venom DCUM usually has for women who sleep with married men, Diana is somehow able to retain her saintly halo even after multiple affairs with married men during her marriage. |
What do you mean, not the same? Diana didn't have to sleep with married men. Cheat on your husband, OK, but she could have picked single guys to sleep with. |
Um, Jackie ran straight into the arms of a gross old man who didn't treat her well because she was scared and desperate to get out of the US. Hardly something to aspire to. She then had what seemed to be a good life in NYC because she had a career and stayed out of the spotlight, two things Diana would not have been capable of. Jackie came from a dysfunctional background and suffered a lot of trauma, but she was far brighter and more grounded than Diana. |
Camilla didn't deny it. Tiggy was quite offended by the rumors - and the rumors weren't JUST about her sleeping with Charles, it was about her aborting or miscarrying his baby. We can all agree it's a bad thing to make up about someone when it isn't true. Tiggy remained close to the boys and attended their wedding. So chances are Diana was in the wrong there. But then again, maybe Bashir made it all up because BBC did offer to pay her significant damages for the lies they sponsored. |
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The BBC has offered six-figure damages to the former nanny of Prince William and Prince Harry over false claims made by Martin Bashir to obtain his interview with Princess Diana, according to reports.
Tiggy Legge-Bourke, now known as Tiggy Pettifer, was offered the payout after the former BBC journalist, 58, told Princess Diana that her husband was 'in love' with their children's nanny in order to secure his 1995 Panorama interview. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10003217/BBC-pays-six-figure-damages-Tiggy-Legge-Bourke.html |
| I met Camilla once when I was working with a nonprofit. She was very polite and seemed genuinely interested in our work and knowledgeable about it. |
Even if that were true, Diana would have survived the accident if she'd been wearing a seatbelt. But there was no need for the crown to try to kill her. She was circling the drain as it was. |
Jackie Kennedy was both dumb and a Mean Girl, not a great combination. We've known this since at least 2011: https://www.thesmartset.com/article10051101/ |
| I cannot imagine the British public accepting that old hag Camilla after what she did so openly with Charles against the lovely Di. Shame on them. Overdue time to end the monarchy anyway. The British Royal Family is truly dysfunctional. |