APS Outdoor Lunch Needs to Be Optional

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing OP has never joined her kid for lunch at one of the overcrowded schools. It’s the worst.

Covid or not, let them eat outside and have some space and extra time to play.

They already do eat indoors if it’s very cold, windy, raining, snowing, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you just shared data showing the Covid is a top 10 killer of kids but somehow you think that makes it low risk because it's not at the very top of the killer list? That makes no sense.

Kids are not supposed to die, OP.

Look at swimming pools and flu. Time to shut down pools. And flu too - shut down everything for the flu for kids too.

Pools are open but we have lifeguards and swimming lessons to guard against drowning.

Schools are open and we have Covid mitigation.

Also, I think we should do more to curb the spread of the flu in schools. Just because maybe we haven't done enough in the past to stop one contagious illness (flu) doesn't mean we should do nothing for the next one (Covid).

I thought you people were for more learning days? Think about how many learning days are needlessly lost to illness.

Have you checked schools with little to no mitigation? They're doing great. It's only a matter of time before it happens here.

And if you want to reorder society now for the flu too, then you should be explicit about it. The vast majority are not going to agree.

Yes, they report a lot of Covid in schools, a lot of absences, illness, and high levels of stress for kids and teachers. One kid's teacher has been out so much she doesn't know who is going to teach her on a daily basis which is upsetting for her and she's getting even further behind. Another kid is so anxious about bringing Covid home to her high risk dad that the family had to get the kid in counseling which isn't really helping because kid is smart enough to know the risk is there.

You are not the only one with friends or relatives in red states with little mitigation in schools. It ain't pretty.

My friend in a red state with no mitigation in school had to pull her high risk kid and send her to a private school that does have good mitigation. But most can't afford to do that.

[Anonymous]

Quite clear OP doesn't care about high risk kids and whether they can go to school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you just shared data showing the Covid is a top 10 killer of kids but somehow you think that makes it low risk because it's not at the very top of the killer list? That makes no sense.

Kids are not supposed to die, OP.

Look at swimming pools and flu. Time to shut down pools. And flu too - shut down everything for the flu for kids too.

Pools are open but we have lifeguards and swimming lessons to guard against drowning.

Schools are open and we have Covid mitigation.

Also, I think we should do more to curb the spread of the flu in schools. Just because maybe we haven't done enough in the past to stop one contagious illness (flu) doesn't mean we should do nothing for the next one (Covid).

I thought you people were for more learning days? Think about how many learning days are needlessly lost to illness.

Have you checked schools with little to no mitigation? They're doing great. It's only a matter of time before it happens here.

And if you want to reorder society now for the flu too, then you should be explicit about it. The vast majority are not going to agree.

Yes, they report a lot of Covid in schools, a lot of absences, illness, and high levels of stress for kids and teachers. One kid's teacher has been out so much she doesn't know who is going to teach her on a daily basis which is upsetting for her and she's getting even further behind. Another kid is so anxious about bringing Covid home to her high risk dad that the family had to get the kid in counseling which isn't really helping because kid is smart enough to know the risk is there.

You are not the only one with friends or relatives in red states with little mitigation in schools. It ain't pretty.

My friend in a red state with no mitigation in school had to pull her high risk kid and send her to a private school that does have good mitigation. But most can't afford to do that.

Lunch has been normal in the so many places in the US. No issues (otherwise would have been broadcast all over the New York Times and CNN).

The kid could sit outside or in their own room.

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Anonymous wrote:Quite clear OP doesn't care about high risk kids and whether they can go to school.

At this point, all school-aged children are able to be vaccinated. If you do not vaccinate your child, or they are that fragile, they need to be at home. The model has got to shift from working from the optic that the school population isn’t protected, to one where the community is good enough. That being said, I’ll all about mandating the vaccine for school attendance, like we do for other vaccines.

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Yes, they report a lot of Covid in schools, a lot of absences, illness, and high levels of stress for kids and teachers. One kid's teacher has been out so much she doesn't know who is going to teach her on a daily basis which is upsetting for her and she's getting even further behind. Another kid is so anxious about bringing Covid home to her high risk dad that the family had to get the kid in counseling which isn't really helping because kid is smart enough to know the risk is there.

You are not the only one with friends or relatives in red states with little mitigation in schools. It ain't pretty.

Do we have a fiction writer in the house now too? Red state schools without mitigation are doing fine. Private schools and many publics in VA will be doing so right away on January 15th so this theoretical exercise will be ending soon.

Plus, what kind of family tells their little kid that they could kill their dad? This is completely whacko. Hopefully this child forgives his parents when he's grown up for traumatizing him like that.

Speaking of which, think of all those kids of Smart Restart when they get older, realizing how much of childhood their parents robbed them for their irrational fear. Many say on AEM they still haven't eaten in a restaurant since February 2020 and many aren't doing indoor playdates. It reminds me of my friend who grew up in Scientology. There's so much in common between these Branch COVIDians and a cult. My friend is estranged from her family now too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing OP has never joined her kid for lunch at one of the overcrowded schools. It’s the worst.

Covid or not, let them eat outside and have some space and extra time to play.

They already do eat indoors if it’s very cold, windy, raining, snowing, etc.

My 8th grader loves outdoor lunch.

He plays sport outside in the dark at night in much colder temps than this.

It is a great break in the middle of the day and it is one of the 'good' to come out of Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Quite clear OP doesn't care about high risk kids and whether they can go to school.

At this point, all school-aged children are able to be vaccinated. If you do not vaccinate your child, or they are that fragile, they need to be at home. The model has got to shift from working from the optic that the school population isn’t protected, to one where the community is good enough. That being said, I’ll all about mandating the vaccine for school attendance, like we do for other vaccines.

Oh so now you want to keep other kids home???

[Anonymous]

Of course they do. They are fine with shutting out immune compromised or high risk from school.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, they report a lot of Covid in schools, a lot of absences, illness, and high levels of stress for kids and teachers. One kid's teacher has been out so much she doesn't know who is going to teach her on a daily basis which is upsetting for her and she's getting even further behind. Another kid is so anxious about bringing Covid home to her high risk dad that the family had to get the kid in counseling which isn't really helping because kid is smart enough to know the risk is there.

You are not the only one with friends or relatives in red states with little mitigation in schools. It ain't pretty.

Do we have a fiction writer in the house now too? Red state schools without mitigation are doing fine. Private schools and many publics in VA will be doing so right away on January 15th so this theoretical exercise will be ending soon.

Plus, what kind of family tells their little kid that they could kill their dad? This is completely whacko. Hopefully this child forgives his parents when he's grown up for traumatizing him like that.

Speaking of which, think of all those kids of Smart Restart when they get older, realizing how much of childhood their parents robbed them for their irrational fear. Many say on AEM they still haven't eaten in a restaurant since February 2020 and many aren't doing indoor playdates. It reminds me of my friend who grew up in Scientology. There's so much in common between these Branch COVIDians and a cult. My friend is estranged from her family now too.

You sound deranged. You're comparing people who are cautious about Covid to Scientologists?

No, her parents didn't tell her that she could kill her dad. You made that up to make some family you never met look bad.

Kids in high school read and form their own opinions. And for what it's worth, she's right.

Honestly, OP, you sound like you are in a right wing cult where you get your fake news from a few cherry picked sources.

And keep spouting the fiction that schools without mitigation are doing fine. We don't believe you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing OP has never joined her kid for lunch at one of the overcrowded schools. It’s the worst.

Covid or not, let them eat outside and have some space and extra time to play.

They already do eat indoors if it’s very cold, windy, raining, snowing, etc.

It's just one guy.

[Anonymous]

This issue is starting to get national attention. The vast majority of people in the US are eating inside restaurants, and are shocked to find that kids are forced to eat outside in the cold weather because of a few extremists' cultlike, irrational fears.

I saw Jen Psaki got asked about it today too.

[Anonymous]

It drives me insane when folks are so flippant about child abuse. I read cases of child abuse every day at work. Trust me it does not involve having properly attired kids eat outside.

It's making a mockery of a serious issue and pathetic honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This issue is starting to get national attention. The vast majority of people in the US are eating inside restaurants, and are shocked to find that kids are forced to eat outside in the cold weather because of a few extremists' cultlike, irrational fears.

I saw Jen Psaki got asked about it today too.

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“This issue”? Seriously?

Is this the latest RWNJ talking point or something? You people are horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:This issue is starting to get national attention. The vast majority of people in the US are eating inside restaurants, and are shocked to find that kids are forced to eat outside in the cold weather because of a few extremists' cultlike, irrational fears.

I saw Jen Psaki got asked about it today too.

[twitter] https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/14690384234323148835?s=20[/twitter]

“This issue”? Seriously?

Is this the latest RWNJ talking point or something? You people are horrible.

Yes, we're horrible because we don't want our kids to be treated like non-humans, forced to eat outside in 30 degree weather while adults eat in the warm restaurant, chatting away like normal. There's 0 scientific reason that children are treated differently than adults (who even unvaccinated are at lower risk than a vaccinated 40 year olds). It makes no sense, except to appease the most extreme people in the community.

You're the same type of person who wants their low-earning service workers masked, like they're medieval serfs serving you as a noble.

You people are horrible.