APS Outdoor Lunch Needs to Be Optional

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No one thinks it will be eradicated. GMAFB.

Until it’s endemic we can manage easy ways to mitigate risk.

Eating outside is one of the easiest things we can do. And it happens to have other positive benefits as well. I hope they stick with it in the future.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one thinks it will be eradicated. GMAFB.

Until it’s endemic we can manage easy ways to mitigate risk.

Eating outside is one of the easiest things we can do. And it happens to have other positive benefits as well. I hope they stick with it in the future.

+1,000

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

I'm far from acting like COVID will be around forever. You are acting like simple mitigation measures are equivalent to giving up 2+ years of your life. We're in a surge right now. Someday there will be a vaccine for kids under 5.

Tell me more about the procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bald flu seasons. I've never heard of any. Prior to COVID the only mitigation measure we were aware of was skipping activities that other families would send their sick kids to. The one family I know that had a child with cancer similarly just had to drastically scale down their interactions with the community (including what their older child could participate in) to protect the younger sibling. I think COVID has made a lot of people more aware that their choice to reject mitigation measures has a negative impact on people with health vulnerabilities. "I have wiped Larla's nose every day since Halloween and I have no idea why she keeps coughing, maybe I should take her to a doctor," said at a pre-COVID Christmas time by a parent who sends their kid to every activity unless they physically cannot get out of bed. People like this are selfish. Maybe they're overwhelmed and busy too, but selfish as well.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Seriously. At our APS ES kids have a tray of pencils, scissors, glue etc in the middle of each table so they all reach what they need, but they're sharing all of the materials. They're within less arms reach of each other at the tables. Then there is circle time, where they're closer together. Every office I ever worked in, even the shoe string budget NGO gave me more personal work space.

[Anonymous]

Arlington has far greater problems than outdoor lunch in a claim that barely (and sadly) recognizes any difference between fall and winter there in most respects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has far greater problems than outdoor lunch in a claim that barely (and sadly) recognizes any difference between fall and winter there in most respects.

^ climate

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Because it’s all theater to appease coronaphobic extremists. We’re eating indoors at restaurants all the time as I’m sure the vast majority of APS families are.

Insane is not eating indoors at a restaurant since February 2020. What nut jobs.

Best off - there’s been 0 major spread from eating indoors. But we need to stop focusing on spread anyway and only focus on people who are actually sick and helping their symptoms.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Because it’s all theater to appease coronaphobic extremists. We’re eating indoors at restaurants all the time as I’m sure the vast majority of APS families are.

Insane is not eating indoors at a restaurant since February 2020. What nut jobs.

Best off - there’s been 0 major spread from eating indoors. But we need to stop focusing on spread anyway and only focus on people who are actually sick and helping their symptoms.

Oh please honey. Find yourself a real problem. Not eating at a restaurant since Feb 2020 is hardly an appalling thing, even without COVID.

Are you really oblivious to the companies that are telling employees to WFH for the first few weeks in January, or prohibiting in person meetings, or telling people not to talk to each other if they do come in to the office? But sure, lets have the kids take off the masks and eat in each other's faces. That sounds like a good idea.

People like you are the reason kids with health conditions (or have family members with health conditions) can't get back to a semblance of normal. But you got to have dinner in a restaurant, which is all that really matters.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Because it’s all theater to appease coronaphobic extremists. We’re eating indoors at restaurants all the time as I’m sure the vast majority of APS families are.

Insane is not eating indoors at a restaurant since February 2020. What nut jobs.

Best off - there’s been 0 major spread from eating indoors. But we need to stop focusing on spread anyway and only focus on people who are actually sick and helping their symptoms.

Oh please honey. Find yourself a real problem. Not eating at a restaurant since Feb 2020 is hardly an appalling thing, even without COVID.

Are you really oblivious to the companies that are telling employees to WFH for the first few weeks in January, or prohibiting in person meetings, or telling people not to talk to each other if they do come in to the office? But sure, lets have the kids take off the masks and eat in each other's faces. That sounds like a good idea.

People like you are the reason kids with health conditions (or have family members with health conditions) can't get back to a semblance of normal. But you got to have dinner in a restaurant, which is all that really matters.

My work is like that right now too. They have a crazy group of COVIDians who control things. Otherwise I’d be in the office on Monday and going to lunch with my colleagues (indoors at a restaurant - the horror!).

You’re referring to the vast majority of the country. We’re on a family vacation right now. Airports and resorts are packed. Sorry that people have moved on with their life while you continue your miserable rituals (that don’t do anything other than make you feel that you’re morally superior).

There are 200 endemic respiratory viruses, all of which raise issues for immunocompromised people without prior immunity. But we deal with them just fine.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to explain to outsiders how strange Arlington has become.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Because it’s all theater to appease coronaphobic extremists. We’re eating indoors at restaurants all the time as I’m sure the vast majority of APS families are.

Insane is not eating indoors at a restaurant since February 2020. What nut jobs.

Best off - there’s been 0 major spread from eating indoors. But we need to stop focusing on spread anyway and only focus on people who are actually sick and helping their symptoms.

I'm genuinely curious.... if no major spread comes from schools and no major spread comes from eating in crowded restaurants, and transit and workplaces are still operating at below-max numbers, where is everyone catching COVID?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to explain to outsiders how strange Arlington has become.

Yes. Some raging parents are pissed that our community is trying to handle a global pandemic by mitigating risks.

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everyone will get it eventually. vaccines aren't designed to prevent infections. that's been news for like six months or so. vaccines prevent severe cases in most cases. you're stuck in march 2020.

So why the rush to get it ASAP?

No rush to get it. Most people are just treating it like the flu or any other coronavirus now, considering the less than flu level risk for vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children.

If it was up to some people, we'd be taking tests every day and locking down for new variants for the rest of our lives. Not going to happen.

It's funny that some people think that by not eating at a restaurant, they can avoid a highly transmissible respiratory virus that hangs in the air for hours. Or better yet, that giving up 2+ years of your life, especially your children's childhood, is worth it to avoid less than a flu level risk.

That is called "coronaphobia" and there are multiple medical articles on it. It seems to be prominent among wealthy people with far-left views, like a number of Arlingtonians.

So you think it is funny that my under 5 year old has health conditions which make him at risk for serious COVID complications. My older kids eating lunch outside is such a small price to pay for anyone's health. Not to mention the kids get more recess time with outdoor lunch. (They can play when they're done eating as opposed to waiting for everyone to finish before the class goes outside).

Only in super red states would I be considered liberal, but keep it up with your assumptions and narrowmindedness.

COVID will be here forever. You act like it will be eradicated. It will not. In fact, everyone will get it.

And we have procedures in place for immunocompromised people for bad flu seasons too. Did you demand such procedures for bad flu seasons too?

The only narrowmindedness is acting like COVID will be eradicated.

Notice this person is not demanding these draconian restrictions on adults, only children. Very sick

Draconian? Drama queen much?

Adults are not required to be in packed schools in the middle of a pandemic with a highly transmissible virus that is as contagious as measles.

Why are you so hell bent on having kids eat inside sans masks under these circumstances? Are you insane?

Because it’s all theater to appease coronaphobic extremists. We’re eating indoors at restaurants all the time as I’m sure the vast majority of APS families are.

Insane is not eating indoors at a restaurant since February 2020. What nut jobs.

Best off - there’s been 0 major spread from eating indoors. But we need to stop focusing on spread anyway and only focus on people who are actually sick and helping their symptoms.

Oh please honey. Find yourself a real problem. Not eating at a restaurant since Feb 2020 is hardly an appalling thing, even without COVID.

Are you really oblivious to the companies that are telling employees to WFH for the first few weeks in January, or prohibiting in person meetings, or telling people not to talk to each other if they do come in to the office? But sure, lets have the kids take off the masks and eat in each other's faces. That sounds like a good idea.

People like you are the reason kids with health conditions (or have family members with health conditions) can't get back to a semblance of normal. But you got to have dinner in a restaurant, which is all that really matters.

My work is like that right now too. They have a crazy group of COVIDians who control things. Otherwise I’d be in the office on Monday and going to lunch with my colleagues (indoors at a restaurant - the horror!).

You’re referring to the vast majority of the country. We’re on a family vacation right now. Airports and resorts are packed. Sorry that people have moved on with their life while you continue your miserable rituals (that don’t do anything other than make you feel that you’re morally superior).

There are 200 endemic respiratory viruses, all of which raise issues for immunocompromised people without prior immunity. But we deal with them just fine.

By "deal with" you mean ignore. Gotcha.