Reinstate School Resource Officers at MCPS

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There are multiple violent acts the past few months. They have been posted here and in other places. Do we really need to list them out. MCPS is not transparent with these things. But, please find us the evidence numbers are down and prove it with a citation.

DP. What's your evidence that the numbers are up?

The news! OMG!

No, that's not evidence that the numbers are up. That's just evidence that incidents are happening. But incidents happened before, too.

Such glibness. Do you have evidence that numbers are down? Or should we just wait till your kids get hurt? Oh wait...you have no kids in the system.

Do you have evidence the numbers are up? Or, if not, what is your reason for wanting MCPS to put the SROs back in schools?

They hate public education and want to do everything possible to make it a miserable experience for everyone. From what I can tell their hope is to make public so bad that people support voucher programs to help subsidize wealthy families who chose private.

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This stuff happens every year. It just happens there's a poster trying to draw attention to it because of the SRO agenda. It isn't anything new, and these incidents were handled perfectly without SROs.

BINGO

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Putting officers in schools like Blair, Kennedy or Einstein will help many of their kids figure out what to do after school

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Anonymous wrote:It should get much more attention, that the Michigan school shooter was evaluated by social workers at school and found not to be a threat, and subsequently released back into the school where he murdered children.

We can not let this "counselors not sros" BS continue.

"Upon the parents' arrival, the school counselors asked the student "specific probing questions" about his potential for self-harm or harm toward others, Throne said. The answers he provided "led counselors to again conclude he did not intend on committing either self-harm or harm to others," according to the letter." - cnn

This seems like damning evidence against the idea that social workers can effectively stop school violence.

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Anonymous wrote:It should get much more attention, that the Michigan school shooter was evaluated by social workers at school and found not to be a threat, and subsequently released back into the school where he murdered children.

We can not let this "counselors not sros" BS continue.

"Upon the parents' arrival, the school counselors asked the student "specific probing questions" about his potential for self-harm or harm toward others, Throne said. The answers he provided "led counselors to again conclude he did not intend on committing either self-harm or harm to others," according to the letter." - cnn

This seems like damning evidence against the idea that social workers can effectively stop school violence.

The damning evidence is that even without SROs things were handled just fine in MCPS. This makes it clear they aren't necessary here at least.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should get much more attention, that the Michigan school shooter was evaluated by social workers at school and found not to be a threat, and subsequently released back into the school where he murdered children.

We can not let this "counselors not sros" BS continue.

"Upon the parents' arrival, the school counselors asked the student "specific probing questions" about his potential for self-harm or harm toward others, Throne said. The answers he provided "led counselors to again conclude he did not intend on committing either self-harm or harm to others," according to the letter." - cnn

This seems like damning evidence against the idea that social workers can effectively stop school violence.

The damning evidence is that even without SROs things were handled just fine in MCPS. This makes it clear they aren't necessary here at least.

What in God's name are you talking about? You think mcps is a magical land where shootings won't happen? Pull your head out of your ass!
And the fact that the kid with the knife who threatened parents came back and stabbed someone THIS YEAR is proof things are NOT just fine.
Take your political agenda out to sea with yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:If you care about school safety, pls sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/montgomery-county-council-reinstate-school-resource-officers-at-mcps

Recently, there are a number of local and nation wide violence attacks against students. Here are two quick examples.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/blair-high-school-stabbing-student-charged/2021/11/09/7e87293a-4176-11ec-a88e-2aa4632af69b_story.html
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/video-teen-girls-attack-students-on-septa-train/3051706/

It sounds the time to put our student safety first.

Thanks,

This is not sufficient! We need to post a national guard battalion in full combat regalia at every school!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should get much more attention, that the Michigan school shooter was evaluated by social workers at school and found not to be a threat, and subsequently released back into the school where he murdered children.

We can not let this "counselors not sros" BS continue.

"Upon the parents' arrival, the school counselors asked the student "specific probing questions" about his potential for self-harm or harm toward others, Throne said. The answers he provided "led counselors to again conclude he did not intend on committing either self-harm or harm to others," according to the letter." - cnn

This seems like damning evidence against the idea that social workers can effectively stop school violence.

The damning evidence is that even without SROs things were handled just fine in MCPS. This makes it clear they aren't necessary here at least.

Agree, every incident the SRO proponent has hyped was handled perfectly by the county without SROs. The only logical conclusion is that SROs aren't needed.

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What is wrong with all of you? Plase explain to me what the fear is of a police officer? IMO, this is taught just as hate/bigotry is taught. The SROs helped kids, lots and lots of kids of all ethnic backgrounds.

The SROs worked with teens, and were trained to work with teens. They knew which kids were trouble, and which kids were in trouble. They befriended both, supporteed both, and helped prevent many tragedies.

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There are multiple violent acts the past few months. They have been posted here and in other places. Do we really need to list them out. MCPS is not transparent with these things. But, please find us the evidence numbers are down and prove it with a citation.

DP. What's your evidence that the numbers are up?

The news! OMG!

No, that's not evidence that the numbers are up. That's just evidence that incidents are happening. But incidents happened before, too.

Such glibness. Do you have evidence that numbers are down? Or should we just wait till your kids get hurt? Oh wait...you have no kids in the system.

Do you have evidence the numbers are up? Or, if not, what is your reason for wanting MCPS to put the SROs back in schools?

They hate public education and want to do everything possible to make it a miserable experience for everyone. From what I can tell their hope is to make public so bad that people support voucher programs to help subsidize wealthy families who chose private.

The people lobbying for no SRO's have their kids in private schools, which have their own form of security. Funny thing, they have no interest in keeping our public school kids safe.

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with all of you? Plase explain to me what the fear is of a police officer? IMO, this is taught just as hate/bigotry is taught. The SROs helped kids, lots and lots of kids of all ethnic backgrounds.

The SROs worked with teens, and were trained to work with teens. They knew which kids were trouble, and which kids were in trouble. They befriended both, supporteed both, and helped prevent many tragedies.

+1. The anti-SRO argument begins with an initial premise that SROs operate with bad intentions. I’ve worked closely with 4 of them now and that’s simply not true.

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Anonymous wrote:Educator who has worked in many Moco high schools- a good sro is an essential member of a school team...forming relationships with kids, having a handle on community matters, and conducting police duties as essential. Pre-pandemic, the kids were far from okay- I can't even imagine what it's like now and without the consistent police presence. Restorative justice is a joke- I've never seen a school implement it as designed. Mental health services at the school are very limited in scope. The violence is going to continue until children die...maybe they will reverse course then

This post is on target.

There were more student arrests pre-SROs than post. We 100% need them in our schools.

However, I cannot in good conscience sign anything put forth by Steve Austin, as it will not be taken seriously by those in charge.

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Anonymous wrote:Educator who has worked in many Moco high schools- a good sro is an essential member of a school team...forming relationships with kids, having a handle on community matters, and conducting police duties as essential. Pre-pandemic, the kids were far from okay- I can't even imagine what it's like now and without the consistent police presence. Restorative justice is a joke- I've never seen a school implement it as designed. Mental health services at the school are very limited in scope. The violence is going to continue until children die...maybe they will reverse course then

This post is on target.

There were more student arrests pre-SROs than post. We 100% need them in our schools.

However, I cannot in good conscience sign anything put forth by Steve Austin, as it will not be taken seriously by those in charge.

MCPS educator who posted this in November

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Educator who has worked in many Moco high schools- a good sro is an essential member of a school team...forming relationships with kids, having a handle on community matters, and conducting police duties as essential. Pre-pandemic, the kids were far from okay- I can't even imagine what it's like now and without the consistent police presence. Restorative justice is a joke- I've never seen a school implement it as designed. Mental health services at the school are very limited in scope. The violence is going to continue until children die...maybe they will reverse course then

This post is on target.

There were more student arrests pre-SROs than post. We 100% need them in our schools.

However, I cannot in good conscience sign anything put forth by Steve Austin, as it will not be taken seriously by those in charge.

MCPS educator who posted this in November

prophetic, or obvious writing on the wall that some people just wanted to ignore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with all of you? Plase explain to me what the fear is of a police officer? IMO, this is taught just as hate/bigotry is taught. The SROs helped kids, lots and lots of kids of all ethnic backgrounds.

The SROs worked with teens, and were trained to work with teens. They knew which kids were trouble, and which kids were in trouble. They befriended both, supporteed both, and helped prevent many tragedies.

+1. The anti-SRO argument begins with an initial premise that SROs operate with bad intentions. I’ve worked closely with 4 of them now and that’s simply not true.

+100 Principals support bringing SROs back. The officers were in a place to prevent problems. How many knife incidents have happened this school year in MCPS and now a school shooting? We aren’t even out of the first semester yet.

MCPS promised more mental health and counseling supports for students. Didn’t happen.

SROs need to come back for the safety of students and staff. How unsafe do schools need to get?