Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty easy.

Youngkin played the aw-shucks southern gentlemen while the right wing echo chamber pounded CRT and other BS through its media outlets and social media promotion.

You sound like a Democratic strategist. Read the article and learn something. I am not giving any more money to Dem PACs until the Dems get smart strategists.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Quite an accomplishment for a political novice to defeat even by two points a former governor and long term politician.

If reminds me of political novice Trump defeating long time politician, Hillary Clinton

Oh, I get it now.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Some nuances I'm not seeing reflected here - as the working parent of a young child, I definitely was told that by wanting in-person school, I "just wanted free daycare"...but usually that sentiment was expressed by people of conservative political persuasions who probably thought women should be SAHMs anyway ("if you can't/don't want to take care of your own kids you shouldn't have had them!"). From teachers/teacher advocacy groups, I mostly heard a lot of "not [reopening] until it's safe", which seemed to be unclear at best and a constantly moving goalpost at worst. I was incensed by teachers who took full advantage of priority vaccination and then still refused to return to in-person teaching.

All that said...the majority of APS and FCPS parents chose remote learning in the fall of 2020 (not sure about other counties). You can split hairs and say it's because the proposed in-person offerings weren't workable (staggered starts, alternate days), but looking back 15 months ago, we didn't know what we do now, and most people erred on the side of keeping kids home.

The "OpenFCPS" crowd was an uneasy alliance of Covid deniers, parents who wanted/needed their kids out of the house, and people with serious concerns about their children's educational needs being met (or not)...while they were loud, they were never able to formulate a cogent "Plan B" that included CDC-compliant risk mitigation measures.

I can understand being mad at local school boards, at teachers, at teachers unions. Some of the stuff that was done (remote school from within school facilities, for a fee?!) was the antithesis of equity. And the fact that working parents got the rawest deal of the pandemic has been broadly documented. All fair points.

But to go from there to...voting in the party that opposes paid family and medical leave, dispenses with public health mitigation measures like masks and vaccinations, and siphons off public school money to private schools and corporate-helmed charters (while simultaneously decreasing overall incoming tax revenue) seems to me to be textbook cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. I won't go so far as to say flipping one's vote to Youngkin was racist, but I absolutely believe that the people who did so en masse (college-educated white women) acted in an effort to preserve their own privilege in shaping public schools to best serve their own interests. Just because Youngkin was smart enough to largely keep his mouth shut during the campaign doesn't mean he's not the policy equivalent of Trump et al.

So your point is, that it’s a white college-educated woman’s responsibility to shut up, pay taxes, and not expect a thing for them?

Wait...what?! That's quite a leap. If high-quality, safe, continuously open public schools are your goal, don't you think it's a bit short-sighted to think you'll get that from the party that consistently denigrates public health measures and either directly or indirectly defunds public education? Seems rather like expecting Rs to do something about gun control because Democrats moved too slowly on the issue for your taste...

given that Democrats literally closed schools for 1.5 years, you don’t have much credibility. That’s the whole problem.

DP. Virginia schools closed in March 2020. They were ordered to reopen in March 2021. That’s one year, not 1.5. I understand some people were dissatisfied with 3 months of hybrid at that point (as was I), but school was not closed at that point.

Fcps special ed kids wwre kept out of school through the summer of 2021

This is not believable. Citation?

Definitely happened.

Visit the special ed threads from this summer. Fcps cancelled their summer classes days before, sometimes the night before.

The school hoard was busy with TJ admissions and did not have time to hire or schedule teachers.

Lies.

Kids with highest needs were brought back in-person 4 days/wk back in NOVEMBER 2020.
https://www.fcps. https://www.fcps.edu/blog/return-school-news-november-9-2020/blog/return-school-news-november-9-2020

The rest were back - if they selected in-person by March 2020.

I think they brought the highest needs kids back in November (of course not full time) and then went back all virtual pretty quickly even for the highest needs kids - I think mid by December. At the time of a school board meeting on December 11, 2020 - they were planning to stop educating in person the highest needs of the highest needs in part, because the highest need special education students allegedly had trouble keeping masks on - but indoor sports winter sports were allowed to start then including cheerleaders and wrestlers, for example, who didn't need to wear masks & the school board did not have a problem with that!! I was so annoyed by that at the time. I support sports - but I support education first - and it was so dumb that the FCPS school board needed medical professionals and the state to subsequently point out that you had to put education first over sports when planning to return to school.

DP. Completely agree. I remember my DC having to do academic club meetings via Zoom, while wrestlers - with NO MASKS - were grappling each other in person. The hypocrisy was utterly blinding.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

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And some of the people who voted against them were recent high school grads who understood why prom/graduation/etc was taken from them in 2020; but saw and did NOT forgive the people who did real harm to their siblings by refusing to open schools the following fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

Gosh, what an interesting question. I am sure someone understands it somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:And some of the people who voted against them were recent high school grads who understood why prom/graduation/etc was taken from them in 2020; but saw and did NOT forgive the people who did real harm to their siblings by refusing to open schools the following fall.

Yes, lots of people mad at FCPS.

Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.

From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.

Thinking someone is more likely to win isn’t the same thing as saying it would be an easy win. If you thinking the most likely scenario is candidate A winning by 1.2 points, then you can, at the same time, believe A will win but that it will be a close race and therefore not “easy.”

This is why the implications of polling and statistical analysis is lost on so many laypeople. Odds of winning and magnitude of lead are not the same thing.

This is just a condescending way to say your personal fact-free opinion trumps actual evidence.

Can we please agree that that verb - Trumps - should be stricken from our vocabulary until after 2024?

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Can't play bridge without trumps or rubbers. Want to get rid of condoms too?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.

you just cannot face it can you?

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.

you just cannot face it can you?

I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.

you just cannot face it can you?

I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?

I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14

Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.

Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.

The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.

you just cannot face it can you?

I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?

I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.

Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.