School board reckoning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not PP but having different opinions doesn’t mean someone is out of touch, it means they do not agree with you. I’m not happy with the SB either but I think right wingers completely astroturfed social media-including this forum-and convinced parents Democrats alone are responsible for the fall of education. Ignoring the changing demographics that contribute to local systems being overwhelmed. Ignoring that Republican led states often completely undermine public education and do not have good outcomes. Ignoring that CRT is not a thing. And that outsiders were brought in to stir crap up. That charter schools and vouchers have failed miserably in most cases bc they are not held to any standards.
You can call me names, be patronizing, etc, I still do not agree with you PPs. And yes, I am paying attention. I will vote for SB who are focused on academics in 2023. But this? Sticking it to the Dems when there is so much more at stake? Nah.

Sorry, but if you're still suggesting that the opposition to current education trends is primarily due to "astroturfing," or that "CRT is not a thing," you either haven't been paying attention or are simply looking for a way to avoid reality.

The Democrats created conditions locally where the response to Covid, like the response to every other major challenge FCPS has been facing, has been woefully inadequate, because the schools are run and overseen by second-rate bureaucrats and low-quality School Board members who spend 75% of their time saying what they think is politically correct, 20% of their time on Twitter endorsing political candidates, and 5% of their time on solutions.

Astroturfing is a thing. It has been documented that the right wingers sensed a dissatisfaction and ran with it. No one made it up. And as I stated, I really do not like this SB. There is zero emphasis on academics. But no one is addressing how Republicans some how give a F about public schools and have demonstrated success in elevating academic standards. And I absolutely agree that SB members should not be associated with any one party. They should be elected based on their qualifications and stated goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not PP but having different opinions doesn’t mean someone is out of touch, it means they do not agree with you. I’m not happy with the SB either but I think right wingers completely astroturfed social media-including this forum-and convinced parents Democrats alone are responsible for the fall of education. Ignoring the changing demographics that contribute to local systems being overwhelmed. Ignoring that Republican led states often completely undermine public education and do not have good outcomes. Ignoring that CRT is not a thing. And that outsiders were brought in to stir crap up. That charter schools and vouchers have failed miserably in most cases bc they are not held to any standards.
You can call me names, be patronizing, etc, I still do not agree with you PPs. And yes, I am paying attention. I will vote for SB who are focused on academics in 2023. But this? Sticking it to the Dems when there is so much more at stake? Nah.

Sorry, but if you're still suggesting that the opposition to current education trends is primarily due to "astroturfing," or that "CRT is not a thing," you either haven't been paying attention or are simply looking for a way to avoid reality.

The Democrats created conditions locally where the response to Covid, like the response to every other major challenge FCPS has been facing, has been woefully inadequate, because the schools are run and overseen by second-rate bureaucrats and low-quality School Board members who spend 75% of their time saying what they think is politically correct, 20% of their time on Twitter endorsing political candidates, and 5% of their time on solutions.

Astroturfing is a thing. It has been documented that the right wingers sensed a dissatisfaction and ran with it. No one made it up. And as I stated, I really do not like this SB. There is zero emphasis on academics. But no one is addressing how Republicans some how give a F about public schools and have demonstrated success in elevating academic standards. And I absolutely agree that SB members should not be associated with any one party. They should be elected based on their qualifications and stated goals.

When you're running against the party in power, it's much easier to attack their policies than it is for the party in power to simultaneously defend unpopular actions and to attack nebulous policy statements.

[Anonymous]

Republicans are idiots
They literally voted in Youngkin on the CRT issue .

Now he’s going to “ban” crt 😂 given it was never taught in schools that’s pretty amazing

As for these school board crazies good luck VA you just voted to destroy schools. And now have screaming religious zealots with their lovely Church going behaviors. Fun times!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

+1

The leftists, especially those that subscribe to CRT, are radicals. We have to communicate with them in a manner that they understand. They will walk all over those who talk to them clamly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are idiots
They literally voted in Youngkin on the CRT issue .

Now he’s going to “ban” crt 😂 given it was never taught in schools that’s pretty amazing

As for these school board crazies good luck VA you just voted to destroy schools. And now have screaming religious zealots with their lovely Church going behaviors. Fun times!

Saying that CRT was "never taught in schools" is the latest mating call for progressives in denial who just got their asses handed to them on a platter.

No one was claiming 4th graders were being forced to read law-school texts on CRT. What has been said - and, correctly so - is that CRT-motivated pedagogy is now standard training in school systems like FCPS, and then impacts entire school systems. Here is an excerpt from part of the introduction to one of the leading CRT treatises:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1456228658134323200/photo/1

When a bumbling educrat like Scott Brabrand spends the better part of the last two years claiming "equity is at the center of everything we do," that is more than a slight nod to CRT. And it really isn't helping anyone, except the "anti-racist" experts and consultancies, like the one founded by Merrick Garland's son-in-law, who get rich milking school systems to sell their speeches, training sessions, and surveys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

+1

The leftists, especially those that subscribe to CRT, are radicals. We have to communicate with them in a manner that they understand. They will walk all over those who talk to them clamly.

When you call people leftists because they disagree with you—you lose any credibility on communicating calmly and being anti-extremist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are idiots
They literally voted in Youngkin on the CRT issue .

Now he’s going to “ban” crt 😂 given it was never taught in schools that’s pretty amazing

As for these school board crazies good luck VA you just voted to destroy schools. And now have screaming religious zealots with their lovely Church going behaviors. Fun times!

Oh noes! Doesn't all of this make you want to move to Maryland? Can we help you pack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

+1

The leftists, especially those that subscribe to CRT, are radicals. We have to communicate with them in a manner that they understand. They will walk all over those who talk to them clamly.

When you call people leftists because they disagree with you—you lose any credibility on communicating calmly and being anti-extremist.

No dumbass. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a leftist. But people who push CRT, or policies rooted in CRT, and make the radical argument that parents should not be involved in the education of their kids, there is no doubt these are leftists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are idiots
They literally voted in Youngkin on the CRT issue .

Now he’s going to “ban” crt 😂 given it was never taught in schools that’s pretty amazing

As for these school board crazies good luck VA you just voted to destroy schools. And now have screaming religious zealots with their lovely Church going behaviors. Fun times!

Saying that CRT was "never taught in schools" is the latest mating call for progressives in denial who just got their asses handed to them on a platter.

No one was claiming 4th graders were being forced to read law-school texts on CRT. What has been said - and, correctly so - is that CRT-motivated pedagogy is now standard training in school systems like FCPS, and then impacts entire school systems. Here is an excerpt from part of the introduction to one of the leading CRT treatises:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1456228658134323200/photo/1

When a bumbling educrat like Scott Brabrand spends the better part of the last two years claiming "equity is at the center of everything we do," that is more than a slight nod to CRT. And it really isn't helping anyone, except the "anti-racist" experts and consultancies, like the one founded by Merrick Garland's son-in-law, who get rich milking school systems to sell their speeches, training sessions, and surveys.

A good article on the topic by Batya Ungar-Sargon:

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-happened-last-night-in-virginia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not PP but having different opinions doesn’t mean someone is out of touch, it means they do not agree with you. I’m not happy with the SB either but I think right wingers completely astroturfed social media-including this forum-and convinced parents Democrats alone are responsible for the fall of education. Ignoring the changing demographics that contribute to local systems being overwhelmed. Ignoring that Republican led states often completely undermine public education and do not have good outcomes. Ignoring that CRT is not a thing. And that outsiders were brought in to stir crap up. That charter schools and vouchers have failed miserably in most cases bc they are not held to any standards.
You can call me names, be patronizing, etc, I still do not agree with you PPs. And yes, I am paying attention. I will vote for SB who are focused on academics in 2023. But this? Sticking it to the Dems when there is so much more at stake? Nah.

Sorry, but if you're still suggesting that the opposition to current education trends is primarily due to "astroturfing," or that "CRT is not a thing," you either haven't been paying attention or are simply looking for a way to avoid reality.

The Democrats created conditions locally where the response to Covid, like the response to every other major challenge FCPS has been facing, has been woefully inadequate, because the schools are run and overseen by second-rate bureaucrats and low-quality School Board members who spend 75% of their time saying what they think is politically correct, 20% of their time on Twitter endorsing political candidates, and 5% of their time on solutions.

Astroturfing is a thing. It has been documented that the right wingers sensed a dissatisfaction and ran with it. No one made it up. And as I stated, I really do not like this SB. There is zero emphasis on academics. But no one is addressing how Republicans some how give a F about public schools and have demonstrated success in elevating academic standards. And I absolutely agree that SB members should not be associated with any one party. They should be elected based on their qualifications and stated goals.

Republicans didn't win because they give an F about schools. They won because they were literally the less likely of the two parties to keep kids out of school for a year. That was such a low and somehow - they win on that barometer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

+1

The leftists, especially those that subscribe to CRT, are radicals. We have to communicate with them in a manner that they understand. They will walk all over those who talk to them clamly.

When you call people leftists because they disagree with you—you lose any credibility on communicating calmly and being anti-extremist.

No dumbass. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a leftist. But people who push CRT, or policies rooted in CRT, and make the radical argument that parents should not be involved in the education of their kids, there is no doubt these are leftists.

You just keep proving PPs point. You can’t make a sound argument without name calling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that parents think different things and have different opinions? Or do you only value the ones who hear about nonsense from Tucker Carlson and scream at school boards about the assigned issues?

You sound like Obama when he deigned to campaign for McAuliffe. Out of touch, willfully blind to what’s been happening in public schools, and ignored by the majority of voters.

Nope, I am a parent of 3 FCPS students who has paid close attention to the issues. I disagree with some actions (tj admissions,calendar) and will vote differently in 2023 but I do not agree with the book banning, anti crt bs, loss of civility, or voting for Governor based on my experience with a school board during a pandemic. It’s highly disturbing that you folks are so radicalized that you cannot understand that opinions differ among FCPS parents.

Try to watch the public comment section of the last school board meeting to see parents who support the school board and try to get out of your openfcps bubble.

Meh. You still want a seat at their table and think you're going to have more influence if you use your indoor voice and ask politely for their help, all as they continue to go about lowering standards, playing favorites, and neglecting their basic statutory duties and responsibilities.

That gets you nowhere with these people, who need to be held accountable or relieved of their positions.

+1

The leftists, especially those that subscribe to CRT, are radicals. We have to communicate with them in a manner that they understand. They will walk all over those who talk to them clamly.

When you call people leftists because they disagree with you—you lose any credibility on communicating calmly and being anti-extremist.

No dumbass. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a leftist. But people who push CRT, or policies rooted in CRT, and make the radical argument that parents should not be involved in the education of their kids, there is no doubt these are leftists.

The quote was parents shouldn't decide what schools teach, do you disagree? If you disagree, what parents get to decide what schools teach? Surely it's not just the majority of parents because they elected the school board which already decides, so which parents get to decide what schools teach?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are idiots
They literally voted in Youngkin on the CRT issue .

Now he’s going to “ban” crt 😂 given it was never taught in schools that’s pretty amazing

As for these school board crazies good luck VA you just voted to destroy schools. And now have screaming religious zealots with their lovely Church going behaviors. Fun times!

Saying that CRT was "never taught in schools" is the latest mating call for progressives in denial who just got their asses handed to them on a platter.

No one was claiming 4th graders were being forced to read law-school texts on CRT. What has been said - and, correctly so - is that CRT-motivated pedagogy is now standard training in school systems like FCPS, and then impacts entire school systems. Here is an excerpt from part of the introduction to one of the leading CRT treatises:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1456228658134323200/photo/1

When a bumbling educrat like Scott Brabrand spends the better part of the last two years claiming "equity is at the center of everything we do," that is more than a slight nod to CRT. And it really isn't helping anyone, except the "anti-racist" experts and consultancies, like the one founded by Merrick Garland's son-in-law, who get rich milking school systems to sell their speeches, training sessions, and surveys.

What's ironic is that this same group of people will argue until their face is red, that there are things such as implicit bias, or that our systems are inherently racist even though they are not outwardly or explicitly racist. But when it comes to CRT, all of a sudden, even explicit references to CRT ideology and terminology is somehow not CRT because it's not the whole thing that is taught in college courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not PP but having different opinions doesn’t mean someone is out of touch, it means they do not agree with you. I’m not happy with the SB either but I think right wingers completely astroturfed social media-including this forum-and convinced parents Democrats alone are responsible for the fall of education. Ignoring the changing demographics that contribute to local systems being overwhelmed. Ignoring that Republican led states often completely undermine public education and do not have good outcomes. Ignoring that CRT is not a thing. And that outsiders were brought in to stir crap up. That charter schools and vouchers have failed miserably in most cases bc they are not held to any standards.
You can call me names, be patronizing, etc, I still do not agree with you PPs. And yes, I am paying attention. I will vote for SB who are focused on academics in 2023. But this? Sticking it to the Dems when there is so much more at stake? Nah.

Democrats alone run the fcps school board, the lcps school board, the aps school board, the fcc school board, the arps school hoard and the Virginia Departmemt of Ed and have for many years.

So yes, without exception, the democratic party owns all of the school issues in northern Virginia.

And none of that changed by electing Youngkin.

Congrats on accomplishing nothing.

Youngkin hasn't even been sworn in yet. Keep up your dismissive, patronizing snark and watch as ever-more Democrats in state and local office get kicked to the curb. Especially those like the incompetent and hypocritical Democrats sitting on local school boards.

Careful, your spite is showing.