Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Pro H supporters are so desperate for the recommendation to pass they are now resorting to blaming Magruder and asking but are you even actually poor?

They are so quick to call anyone who doesn’t want to go to Crown “racist” because they keep driving this narrative that you must not want to go with “Crown kids” when in fact that’s THEIR actual insecurity. We have receipts too!

Some of these most vocal pro H lunatics are the same ones who were crying about going to Crown when option D came out. Now why would that be? Back then, they weren’t talking about Wootton being unsafe. Back then it was all we wanted to stay with the cluster. I can’t believe MCPS is sending us to Crown all by ourselves. What’s wrong with going to Crown? Was it because YOU didn’t want to be with Crown kids?

+1 We all know Dufief folks are the real ones who don’t want to go to Crown with Gaithersburg kids. The same clowns who are screaming about anti H being racist were also the ones begging for community support to rally around them to oppose option D because they didn’t want to go to Crown by themselves.

Yes, screenshots of your names attached to those begging messages exist as well.

The screaming of racism is a self projection. It’s giving white lady Karen weaponizing of racism energy.

I'd rather have my name attached to a post asking to stay with a 50 year community than attached to the racist/classist/elitist garbage others shared.

Wait but why would you want to stay if the building is unsafe? (Could it be because you are actually the one who doesn’t want to go to school with Crown kids by yourself?) whoops… I said the quiet part out loud.

Nope, not why. Like everyone else, Dufief was also shocked when H was announced. Dufief would have been happy with anything that kept them with Wootton (E-H) and was planning to fight for Wootton improvements right along with the rest of the community. However, once the superintendents rec was given, the only option that kept Dufief with Wootton was H so maybe you can understand the pivot. The alternative removed them. Are there some Dufief parents that value a safe school above all else, sure. But the majority of Dufief just wanted to stay with their community of 50 years. But they have to fight for the option that kept them in, not a make believe one like the Rockville alternative.

We demand to speak to the head Karen! Who is the Karen in charge?

I knew about HBIC but today I learned a new acronym: HKIC.

Their HKIC is pretty obvious. It’s the Karen weaponizing and screaming most loudly about racism.

Maybe still some learning left to do? Doesn’t seem like you know what a Karen is…

A Karen is an entitled white lady who is overly confrontational toward minorities. Sounds like someone we know…

Dufief Karens are even more special because they pretend to be social justice warriors calling out “racism” as a shield and projection to their own racism.

Oh okay. So are you claiming that saying that FRES and Rosemont students will ruin Wootton’s academic excellence because of their racial demographics isn’t racist? Because that’s what I hear them calling out.

It’s the Dufief Karens who don’t want to go to school with FRES and Rosemont by themselves, that’s why Dufief Karens only supported the move to Crown after H came out.

Is that a yes…? Because the Karens aren’t the people we’ve seen on video and in text threads saying that. Truly, you don’t have to defend every member of your coalition to be anti-H. You too can call out racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Pro H supporters are so desperate for the recommendation to pass they are now resorting to blaming Magruder and asking but are you even actually poor?

They are so quick to call anyone who doesn’t want to go to Crown “racist” because they keep driving this narrative that you must not want to go with “Crown kids” when in fact that’s THEIR actual insecurity. We have receipts too!

Some of these most vocal pro H lunatics are the same ones who were crying about going to Crown when option D came out. Now why would that be? Back then, they weren’t talking about Wootton being unsafe. Back then it was all we wanted to stay with the cluster. I can’t believe MCPS is sending us to Crown all by ourselves. What’s wrong with going to Crown? Was it because YOU didn’t want to be with Crown kids?

+1 We all know Dufief folks are the real ones who don’t want to go to Crown with Gaithersburg kids. The same clowns who are screaming about anti H being racist were also the ones begging for community support to rally around them to oppose option D because they didn’t want to go to Crown by themselves.

Yes, screenshots of your names attached to those begging messages exist as well.

The screaming of racism is a self projection. It’s giving white lady Karen weaponizing of racism energy.

I'd rather have my name attached to a post asking to stay with a 50 year community than attached to the racist/classist/elitist garbage others shared.

Wait but why would you want to stay if the building is unsafe? (Could it be because you are actually the one who doesn’t want to go to school with Crown kids by yourself?) whoops… I said the quiet part out loud.

Nope, not why. Like everyone else, Dufief was also shocked when H was announced. Dufief would have been happy with anything that kept them with Wootton (E-H) and was planning to fight for Wootton improvements right along with the rest of the community. However, once the superintendents rec was given, the only option that kept Dufief with Wootton was H so maybe you can understand the pivot. The alternative removed them. Are there some Dufief parents that value a safe school above all else, sure. But the majority of Dufief just wanted to stay with their community of 50 years. But they have to fight for the option that kept them in, not a make believe one like the Rockville alternative.

We demand to speak to the head Karen! Who is the Karen in charge?

I knew about HBIC but today I learned a new acronym: HKIC.

Their HKIC is pretty obvious. It’s the Karen weaponizing and screaming most loudly about racism.

Maybe still some learning left to do? Doesn’t seem like you know what a Karen is…

A Karen is an entitled white lady who is overly confrontational toward minorities. Sounds like someone we know…

Dufief Karens are even more special because they pretend to be social justice warriors calling out “racism” as a shield and projection to their own racism.

Oh okay. So are you claiming that saying that FRES and Rosemont students will ruin Wootton’s academic excellence because of their racial demographics isn’t racist? Because that’s what I hear them calling out.

It’s the Dufief Karens who don’t want to go to school with FRES and Rosemont by themselves, that’s why Dufief Karens only supported the move to Crown after H came out.

Is that a yes…? Because the Karens aren’t the people we’ve seen on video and in text threads saying that. Truly, you don’t have to defend every member of your coalition to be anti-H. You too can call out racism.

First, I like that you acknowledge their Karen-ess. Second, I’m not in the WhatsApp group, nor am I on Nextdoor. The only cesspool I dabble in is DCUM. Third, the only thing I’ve seen so far is the video circulating around with the white dude making a classist remark at the end of the Taylor fireside chat. I have no idea who this dude is and have never seen him in my life but I hope he rots!

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

That’s why the boundary study is flawed form the start. It didn’t include schools like Magruder.

The vast vast vast (like 99%) of Save Wootton coalition was not looped in to MCPS antics until H came out. I’ll be honest with you, I never heard of CIP until I started learning about everything post December 1. So we can’t exactly plot against Magruder CIP when 🤣 we didn’t even know what CIP was until recently.

The speed in which Save Wootton coalesced has been amazing.

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Now they are with developers banking on Wootton @ Crown.

I keep seeing this arguments that the Crown developers are somehow behind this Wooton push and, ummm, what? How?

The developers left Crown over a year ago. All the houses were built and sold before the high school construction broke ground. If you purchased in the neighborhood, yes, you were told there was going to be a shiny new high school a half mile down the road, but, before the proposal at the end of 2025, no one imagined they would relocate Wooton! If you think the Crown developers were in on this with the MCPS, well, I have a bridge to sell you.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

That’s why the boundary study is flawed form the start. It didn’t include schools like Magruder.

The vast vast vast (like 99%) of Save Wootton coalition was not looped in to MCPS antics until H came out. I’ll be honest with you, I never heard of CIP until I started learning about everything post December 1. So we can’t exactly plot against Magruder CIP when 🤣 we didn’t even know what CIP was until recently.

The speed in which Save Wootton coalesced has been amazing.

Magruder PP here. I think we need to acknowledge there is privilege involved in activism, especially when it comes to things like speed of coalescing. Don’t get me wrong: I think the Save Wootton moment has been incredible and is doing great community advocacy, and we at Magruder look forward to doing this work together.

BUT this is why I get ticked off by comments why would Magruder join so late? Why didn’t you speak up earlier.

The onus should not be on individual communities, especially when communities don’t have the same resources. The onus should be on the decision makers to make a more equitable process such that communities don’t have to fight for limited advocacy time.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

That’s why the boundary study is flawed form the start. It didn’t include schools like Magruder.

The vast vast vast (like 99%) of Save Wootton coalition was not looped in to MCPS antics until H came out. I’ll be honest with you, I never heard of CIP until I started learning about everything post December 1. So we can’t exactly plot against Magruder CIP when 🤣 we didn’t even know what CIP was until recently.

The speed in which Save Wootton coalesced has been amazing.

Magruder PP here. I think we need to acknowledge there is privilege involved in activism, especially when it comes to things like speed of coalescing. Don’t get me wrong: I think the Save Wootton moment has been incredible and is doing great community advocacy, and we at Magruder look forward to doing this work together.

BUT this is why I get ticked off by comments why would Magruder join so late? Why didn’t you speak up earlier.

The onus should not be on individual communities, especially when communities don’t have the same resources. The onus should be on the decision makers to make a more equitable process such that communities don’t have to fight for limited advocacy time.

Go back to the thread and look for yourself who made the comment first about it’s your fault Magruder for coming so late. Why did you come so late to the party? Who said it? Pro H.

Karens be karen-ing. They don’t care about low-income or families of color unless it suits their narrative, then they are the first ones to shout you are racist and classist (indiscriminately, I may add, but I guess they don’t get the irony)

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Pro H supporters are so desperate for the recommendation to pass they are now resorting to blaming Magruder and asking but are you even actually poor?

They are so quick to call anyone who doesn’t want to go to Crown “racist” because they keep driving this narrative that you must not want to go with “Crown kids” when in fact that’s THEIR actual insecurity. We have receipts too!

Some of these most vocal pro H lunatics are the same ones who were crying about going to Crown when option D came out. Now why would that be? Back then, they weren’t talking about Wootton being unsafe. Back then it was all we wanted to stay with the cluster. I can’t believe MCPS is sending us to Crown all by ourselves. What’s wrong with going to Crown? Was it because YOU didn’t want to be with Crown kids?

+1 We all know Dufief folks are the real ones who don’t want to go to Crown with Gaithersburg kids. The same clowns who are screaming about anti H being racist were also the ones begging for community support to rally around them to oppose option D because they didn’t want to go to Crown by themselves.

Yes, screenshots of your names attached to those begging messages exist as well.

The screaming of racism is a self projection. It’s giving white lady Karen weaponizing of racism energy.

I'd rather have my name attached to a post asking to stay with a 50 year community than attached to the racist/classist/elitist garbage others shared.

Wait but why would you want to stay if the building is unsafe? (Could it be because you are actually the one who doesn’t want to go to school with Crown kids by yourself?) whoops… I said the quiet part out loud.

Nope, not why. Like everyone else, Dufief was also shocked when H was announced. Dufief would have been happy with anything that kept them with Wootton (E-H) and was planning to fight for Wootton improvements right along with the rest of the community. However, once the superintendents rec was given, the only option that kept Dufief with Wootton was H so maybe you can understand the pivot. The alternative removed them. Are there some Dufief parents that value a safe school above all else, sure. But the majority of Dufief just wanted to stay with their community of 50 years. But they have to fight for the option that kept them in, not a make believe one like the Rockville alternative.

We demand to speak to the head Karen! Who is the Karen in charge?

I knew about HBIC but today I learned a new acronym: HKIC.

Their HKIC is pretty obvious. It’s the Karen weaponizing and screaming most loudly about racism.

Maybe still some learning left to do? Doesn’t seem like you know what a Karen is…

A Karen is an entitled white lady who is overly confrontational toward minorities. Sounds like someone we know…

Dufief Karens are even more special because they pretend to be social justice warriors calling out “racism” as a shield and projection to their own racism.

Oh okay. So are you claiming that saying that FRES and Rosemont students will ruin Wootton’s academic excellence because of their racial demographics isn’t racist? Because that’s what I hear them calling out.

It’s the Dufief Karens who don’t want to go to school with FRES and Rosemont by themselves, that’s why Dufief Karens only supported the move to Crown after H came out.

No way DuFief parents cared about going to school with people from Downtown Crown (Rosemont island) and most likely not Fields Road. Oh god, those scary kids from Washingtonian Woods! Let’s not be silly.

The real issue for them was the people east of 270 slated to move to Crown in A-D, like Washington Grove. But now nowhere east of 270 is slated to go to Crown in Option H.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

That’s why the boundary study is flawed form the start. It didn’t include schools like Magruder.

The vast vast vast (like 99%) of Save Wootton coalition was not looped in to MCPS antics until H came out. I’ll be honest with you, I never heard of CIP until I started learning about everything post December 1. So we can’t exactly plot against Magruder CIP when 🤣 we didn’t even know what CIP was until recently.

The speed in which Save Wootton coalesced has been amazing.

Magruder PP here. I think we need to acknowledge there is privilege involved in activism, especially when it comes to things like speed of coalescing. Don’t get me wrong: I think the Save Wootton moment has been incredible and is doing great community advocacy, and we at Magruder look forward to doing this work together.

BUT this is why I get ticked off by comments why would Magruder join so late? Why didn’t you speak up earlier.

The onus should not be on individual communities, especially when communities don’t have the same resources. The onus should be on the decision makers to make a more equitable process such that communities don’t have to fight for limited advocacy time.

Go back to the thread and look for yourself who made the comment first about it’s your fault Magruder for coming so late. Why did you come so late to the party? Who said it? Pro H.

Karens be karen-ing. They don’t care about low-income or families of color unless it suits their narrative, then they are the first ones to shout you are racist and classist (indiscriminately, I may add, but I guess they don’t get the irony)

Karens are as allergic to people who disagree with them as they are to irony

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Let's be completely honest here.

Options A-D was the initial MCPS Central Office "friends and family" boundary plan.

Options E-G were the "we got caught with our hands in the cookie jar, so we'll cut some of our losses but still push the limits" plan.

Option H is the "kick the can down the road so you can fight about re-districting later after I retire, but I gotta open Crown or the school will sit empty" plan.

As far as the safety and racism accusations on this thread, you do realize this year's shooting didn't involve any Asian or White kids, right? Wasn't the mother of the kid shot even one of the parents complaining last year about racism at the school?

I think that MCPS is breaking up the state's #3 top academic school, but if they want to do that and drag down MCPS' reputation nationally, it's on them. MCPS is already becoming more of a "babysitting school" than a serious academic institution since the parents who can afford tutoring are keeping the scores afloat.

Don't believe? Guess what. This is the Public School model at most major inner cities.

There will be a tipping point where parents (i.e. taxpayers) get fed up with paying high taxes for mediocre services. Once cuts start, MCPS can say goodbye to their Marie Antoinette attitude towards parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Not that hard, many have done it. And, written, video or in person all are testifying. Stop using low income, those who cannot take off, etc. as talking points when that's not your situation. If it's important to you you'll go. Very few at Wootton are true low income. Just people claiming low income in overpriced homes they cannot afford.

Hi. Magruder PP. The low-income was referencing our community not Wootton. I was trying to explain why there haven’t been that many Magruder parents testifying because some butthole said why hasn’t Magruder been more vocal.

Not from Magruder but also want to point out that they’re not actually a part of this boundary study (I don’t think), so it makes complete sense they wouldn’t have been engaged until Options E-H came out and created potential opportunity for them. Wootton also should have reached out to do coalition building earlier, since they were understandably more plugged in, but they were too busy plotting how to overtake Magruder on the CIP.

That’s why the boundary study is flawed form the start. It didn’t include schools like Magruder.

The vast vast vast (like 99%) of Save Wootton coalition was not looped in to MCPS antics until H came out. I’ll be honest with you, I never heard of CIP until I started learning about everything post December 1. So we can’t exactly plot against Magruder CIP when 🤣 we didn’t even know what CIP was until recently.

The speed in which Save Wootton coalesced has been amazing.

Magruder PP here. I think we need to acknowledge there is privilege involved in activism, especially when it comes to things like speed of coalescing. Don’t get me wrong: I think the Save Wootton moment has been incredible and is doing great community advocacy, and we at Magruder look forward to doing this work together.

BUT this is why I get ticked off by comments why would Magruder join so late? Why didn’t you speak up earlier.

The onus should not be on individual communities, especially when communities don’t have the same resources. The onus should be on the decision makers to make a more equitable process such that communities don’t have to fight for limited advocacy time.

Go back to the thread and look for yourself who made the comment first about it’s your fault Magruder for coming so late. Why did you come so late to the party? Who said it? Pro H.

Karens be karen-ing. They don’t care about low-income or families of color unless it suits their narrative, then they are the first ones to shout you are racist and classist (indiscriminately, I may add, but I guess they don’t get the irony)

Pro H or anti H, it's true. Magruder would have had a better shot if they got in before the superintendent made his rec. Magruder had a great showing at that last CIP meeting but it was too late. The only way to get Magruder in now is via amendment and the BOE is having none of that.

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Serious question: to all the Karens, especially the HKIC who is screaming racism on every platform from Facebook to WhatsApp, etc. if you genuinely think the anti-H families are full of racists, why do you even want to go to school with them?

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: to all the Karens, especially the HKIC who is screaming racism on every platform from Facebook to WhatsApp, etc. if you genuinely think the anti-H families are full of racists, why do you even want to go to school with them?

We don't! It's a very small subset of anti H making all the racist comment and we would LOVE it if they went somewhere else!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be completely honest here.

Options A-D was the initial MCPS Central Office "friends and family" boundary plan.

Options E-G were the "we got caught with our hands in the cookie jar, so we'll cut some of our losses but still push the limits" plan.

Option H is the "kick the can down the road so you can fight about re-districting later after I retire, but I gotta open Crown or the school will sit empty" plan.

As far as the safety and racism accusations on this thread, you do realize this year's shooting didn't involve any Asian or White kids, right? Wasn't the mother of the kid shot even one of the parents complaining last year about racism at the school?

I think that MCPS is breaking up the state's #3 top academic school, but if they want to do that and drag down MCPS' reputation nationally, it's on them. MCPS is already becoming more of a "babysitting school" than a serious academic institution since the parents who can afford tutoring are keeping the scores afloat.

Don't believe? Guess what. This is the Public School model at most major inner cities.

There will be a tipping point where parents (i.e. taxpayers) get fed up with paying high taxes for mediocre services. Once cuts start, MCPS can say goodbye to their Marie Antoinette attitude towards parents.

Bro, your anti-H friends are doing SO MUCH to beat the charges that they’re in bed with racists. Help your sisters out!

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

Are they low-income and do they not get any leave or flex time? The Wootton meeting was not during the day. There are thousands of kids between Wootton and the feeder schools, so surely more parents could have showed up...

Not PP, but this was in response to the Magruder poster. What Wootton meeting? They were talking about how Board Meetings at the BOE are always at very difficult times like 12 PM to 4 PM?

They can submit a written or video testimony.

You still have to be picked??? Are you ok? Getting a spot to testify at BOE—written or by video—has become the hottest concert ticket in town.

Instead of looking at this and saying how can we make the process more equitable especially for families that are struggling the most, your answers are: why can’t you just be there? Are you even low income? Can’t you just take off work? Can’t you just use flex time?

You people are so high up MCPS butthole, you no longer have critical thinking skills.

Pro H supporters are so desperate for the recommendation to pass they are now resorting to blaming Magruder and asking but are you even actually poor?

They are so quick to call anyone who doesn’t want to go to Crown “racist” because they keep driving this narrative that you must not want to go with “Crown kids” when in fact that’s THEIR actual insecurity. We have receipts too!

Some of these most vocal pro H lunatics are the same ones who were crying about going to Crown when option D came out. Now why would that be? Back then, they weren’t talking about Wootton being unsafe. Back then it was all we wanted to stay with the cluster. I can’t believe MCPS is sending us to Crown all by ourselves. What’s wrong with going to Crown? Was it because YOU didn’t want to be with Crown kids?

+1 We all know Dufief folks are the real ones who don’t want to go to Crown with Gaithersburg kids. The same clowns who are screaming about anti H being racist were also the ones begging for community support to rally around them to oppose option D because they didn’t want to go to Crown by themselves.

Yes, screenshots of your names attached to those begging messages exist as well.

The screaming of racism is a self projection. It’s giving white lady Karen weaponizing of racism energy.

I'd rather have my name attached to a post asking to stay with a 50 year community than attached to the racist/classist/elitist garbage others shared.

Wait but why would you want to stay if the building is unsafe? (Could it be because you are actually the one who doesn’t want to go to school with Crown kids by yourself?) whoops… I said the quiet part out loud.

Nope, not why. Like everyone else, Dufief was also shocked when H was announced. Dufief would have been happy with anything that kept them with Wootton (E-H) and was planning to fight for Wootton improvements right along with the rest of the community. However, once the superintendents rec was given, the only option that kept Dufief with Wootton was H so maybe you can understand the pivot. The alternative removed them. Are there some Dufief parents that value a safe school above all else, sure. But the majority of Dufief just wanted to stay with their community of 50 years. But they have to fight for the option that kept them in, not a make believe one like the Rockville alternative.

We demand to speak to the head Karen! Who is the Karen in charge?

I knew about HBIC but today I learned a new acronym: HKIC.

Their HKIC is pretty obvious. It’s the Karen weaponizing and screaming most loudly about racism.

Maybe still some learning left to do? Doesn’t seem like you know what a Karen is…

A Karen is an entitled white lady who is overly confrontational toward minorities. Sounds like someone we know…

Dufief Karens are even more special because they pretend to be social justice warriors calling out “racism” as a shield and projection to their own racism.

Oh okay. So are you claiming that saying that FRES and Rosemont students will ruin Wootton’s academic excellence because of their racial demographics isn’t racist? Because that’s what I hear them calling out.

It’s the Dufief Karens who don’t want to go to school with FRES and Rosemont by themselves, that’s why Dufief Karens only supported the move to Crown after H came out.

Is that a yes…? Because the Karens aren’t the people we’ve seen on video and in text threads saying that. Truly, you don’t have to defend every member of your coalition to be anti-H. You too can call out racism.

First, I like that you acknowledge their Karen-ess. Second, I’m not in the WhatsApp group, nor am I on Nextdoor. The only cesspool I dabble in is DCUM. Third, the only thing I’ve seen so far is the video circulating around with the white dude making a classist remark at the end of the Taylor fireside chat. I have no idea who this dude is and have never seen him in my life but I hope he rots!

Okay so then you agree that these people should be called out. Which seems, to me, to be all they’re advocating for. So…you’re all on the same side of this particular issue and can be united in shutting down any gross arguments about race, including the one that’s just popped up on this very page!

Also, good for you for staying off the WhatsApp group. It’s bad there.