Elon Musk buys $3 billion stake (9.2%) in Twitter and is now the platform's largest shareholder

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?

Oooh, “bureaucrats”. So scary!!!

Yes I’m happy to have them get rid of the riot-inciting fake stuff, the racist and antisemitic stuff, the lies that seek to undermine democracy, the porn and the harmful “content,” none of which I want to see. Thanks.

Nice you gloss over the "in Europe" part. They ban books there.

Shocking, innit? 'Cause we'd never ban books here, in the good old US of A.

Example? (That is not about school libraries.)

Here’s a whole thread full of them. Not just school libraries. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1014876.page

Funny, PP said not in school libraries and you literally responded with a tread on books banned in school libraries. The only books banned in the us are cp or articles with classified information. Which of those categories do you think shouldn't be banned?

PP asking for an example. Am fine with those two restrictions on books. But in Europe the bans are much broader.

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Anonymous wrote:Kanye got booted off Twitter. So much for free speech, eh?

What did he do? Insult Elon or china?

Posted an image of a swastika embedded in the Star of David.

Sounds like free speech. Why is Elon censoring him?

Elon also censored this guy’s free speech as well. Narcissists should not buy criticism factories.

Not a Twitter expert. Is this something that would have been allowed under the previous ownership? I am failing to see any issue with this piece

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Anonymous wrote:Kanye got booted off Twitter. So much for free speech, eh?

What did he do? Insult Elon or china?

Posted an image of a swastika embedded in the Star of David.

Sounds like free speech. Why is Elon censoring him?

Elon also censored this guy’s free speech as well. Narcissists should not buy criticism factories.

Not a Twitter expert. Is this something that would have been allowed under the previous ownership? I am failing to see any issue with this piece

There is no issue. It criticizes the megalomaniac, which he cannot handle.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

there are plenty of Nazis being welcomed back to twitter. Ye just went a little too far

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

there are plenty of Nazis being welcomed back to twitter. Ye just went a little too far

Well too bad for him. Good riddance.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?

Oooh, “bureaucrats”. So scary!!!

Yes I’m happy to have them get rid of the riot-inciting fake stuff, the racist and antisemitic stuff, the lies that seek to undermine democracy, the porn and the harmful “content,” none of which I want to see. Thanks.

Nice you gloss over the "in Europe" part. They ban books there.

Shocking, innit? 'Cause we'd never ban books here, in the good old US of A.

Example? (That is not about school libraries.)

Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Gapes of Wrath, Lady Chatterly's Lover.... There are of course plenty of books banned at state/library/school district levels, anything from 1984, to To Kill a Mockingbird, Brave New World, and Of Mice and Men

What book banning by members of the EU do you take exception to?

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?

Oooh, “bureaucrats”. So scary!!!

Yes I’m happy to have them get rid of the riot-inciting fake stuff, the racist and antisemitic stuff, the lies that seek to undermine democracy, the porn and the harmful “content,” none of which I want to see. Thanks.

Nice you gloss over the "in Europe" part. They ban books there.

Shocking, innit? 'Cause we'd never ban books here, in the good old US of A.

Example? (That is not about school libraries.)

Here’s a whole thread full of them. Not just school libraries. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1014876.page

Funny, PP said not in school libraries and you literally responded with a tread on books banned in school libraries. The only books banned in the us are cp or articles with classified information. Which of those categories do you think shouldn't be banned?

That thread goes on and on and on and, as I said when I linked it, covers many cases which are NOT just about school libraries.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?

Oooh, “bureaucrats”. So scary!!!

Yes I’m happy to have them get rid of the riot-inciting fake stuff, the racist and antisemitic stuff, the lies that seek to undermine democracy, the porn and the harmful “content,” none of which I want to see. Thanks.

Nice you gloss over the "in Europe" part. They ban books there.

Shocking, innit? 'Cause we'd never ban books here, in the good old US of A.

Example? (That is not about school libraries.)

Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Gapes of Wrath, Lady Chatterly's Lover.... There are of course plenty of books banned at state/library/school district levels, anything from 1984, to To Kill a Mockingbird, Brave New World, and Of Mice and Men

What book banning by members of the EU do you take exception to?

I can go on amazon and purchase any of those books right now. A government not purchasing and distributing a book is not the same as a ban

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

there are plenty of Nazis being welcomed back to twitter. Ye just went a little too far

And as the Nazis come back, a number of journalists who for example reported on the rise of neo-Nazism, the rise of the Proud Boys and other violent right wing extremism have been SUSPENDED from Twitter without explanation and without any apparent violation of the Twitter ToS.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

You seem to be confused. Elon has let plenty of bad actors back into Twitter. Either he’s for free speech or he’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?

Oooh, “bureaucrats”. So scary!!!

Yes I’m happy to have them get rid of the riot-inciting fake stuff, the racist and antisemitic stuff, the lies that seek to undermine democracy, the porn and the harmful “content,” none of which I want to see. Thanks.

Nice you gloss over the "in Europe" part. They ban books there.

Shocking, innit? 'Cause we'd never ban books here, in the good old US of A.

Example? (That is not about school libraries.)

Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Gapes of Wrath, Lady Chatterly's Lover.... There are of course plenty of books banned at state/library/school district levels, anything from 1984, to To Kill a Mockingbird, Brave New World, and Of Mice and Men

What book banning by members of the EU do you take exception to?

How are any of these banned by the U.S. government? (Lady Chatterley's Lover may have been banned long ago as pornography, but it isn't today.)

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Twitter does not need to allow posts about Nazis to be able to provide that kind of info.

I thought Elon was all about free speech. He seems confused.

He may be. And you may be. If you are looking for hate speech about Nazis, go find it on whatever crap platform promotes it. Go watch that AH that likes to carry on about dead kids being crisis actors. He will let people promote Nazis as much as they want.

You seem to be confused. Elon has let plenty of bad actors back into Twitter. Either he’s for free speech or he’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2

I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.

^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.

Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?

DP twitter is a great place to go looking for information. I regularly check to see why there’s a slowdown on a highway, what those sirens nearby are all about, to get first hand accounts of events as they’re happening. I thought everyone knew that.

Sounds like really important stuff you are looking up! lol

Twitter is actually nice when it comes to watching videos contained in an article, but I just fail to see how moderating hateful and obnoxious people on an app is some kind of major issue. And the poster rambling on about nazis or white supremacy is just out of their mind. There are all sorts of people pushing hateful rhetoric on the net.