UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.

How did he know then that he was in another hotel and walking to the meeting? Meeting started at 8 AM. He was ready by 6;40 ... How did he know he was not in that hotel itself... Something is fishy.

Exactly. I’m thinking more and more that Thompson wanted to be dead. They need to be looking at all of his banking records to see anything unusual.

Or Thompson wants people to think he’s dead.

If this were a crime movie, the fbi would be involved in helping the informant fake his death.

I don’t think that’s what happened, but it’s a plausible theory.

He’s literally in the morgue.

Is he?

I mean, have you watched Black List or any similar shows?

You certainly have.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

It's also odd that shooter has visible backpack which was "dumped" and found. Why not hide gun under coat?

Because the backpack held a different coat, hat, sunglasses, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

I’m skeptical because I don’t find the passing of a ceo to be destabilizing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

Do you want to negotiate prices with all of your doctors on your own?

Yes, actually. I’d also like to know the cost of a procedure or visit up front, thanks.

To add, I'd also like to know how many billable personnel (doctors and all) I am expected to receive invoices from, I hate the trickling in from outside providers. So shady.

agree

i especially loathe the Urgimeds who codify themselves as Specialists to double their copays and their charges. Health insurance does nothing.

One recently coded itself at time of billing as an ER.

such BS. And they are in BCBS as an in net work urgent care. such BS. BCBS lets them charge that, pays their share and then we are supposed to pay along and pay 2x or 3x!?

Let’s not forget the extra facility fees. My insurance gives me one annual mammogram that they claim to cover 100%. I looked on my insurance website and selected one of the providers. The mammogram was free but then I received a $600 facility charge. I fought with them for months before I finally got it paid.

That’s now prohibited by the No Surprises Act. (Guessing you had it done at a hospital not a doctors office? The provider also should have warned you.)

I went to a facility labeled a “hospital,” but it’s not really a hospital with patients in beds.

I called several times to ensure I would not be charged a fee and they didn’t want to commit to an answer.

DP

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

It's also odd that shooter has visible backpack which was "dumped" and found. Why not hide gun under coat?

Because the backpack held a different coat, hat, sunglasses, etc.

Did they say they found the gun? If they didn’t it’s probably been destroyed or thrown into a body of water where it will never be found.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.

How did he know then that he was in another hotel and walking to the meeting? Meeting started at 8 AM. He was ready by 6;40 ... How did he know he was not in that hotel itself... Something is fishy.

Exactly. I’m thinking more and more that Thompson wanted to be dead. They need to be looking at all of his banking records to see anything unusual.

Or Thompson wants people to think he’s dead.

If this were a crime movie, the fbi would be involved in helping the informant fake his death.

I don’t think that’s what happened, but it’s a plausible theory.

He’s literally in the morgue.

Is he?

I mean, have you watched Black List or any similar shows?

You certainly have.

+1. PP is hilarious, like this is a tv show.

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Anonymous wrote:This couldn't have happened at a worse time for UHC. December 15 is the open enrollment deadline for the exchange and for many corporate plans. That ubiquitous denial rate graphic is going to hurt.

Yes. I’ve had no issues with United so far but after seeing their stats, I’m considering switching my FEHB plan before open enrollment ends Monday.

I’ve had a pretty good experience with my Federal BCBS plan for over a decade now.

I think we are lucky that the federal plans are better than some of the junk plans employers are willing to contribute toward in the private sector. For instance my births (including some extra high risk monitoring and a NICU stay) only cost me about $200/each.

When I hear about some families getting thousands of dollars in medical bills after bringing a new baby home it makes me so irate. It shouldn’t break the bank for people to want to start a family. I wish all coverage had to be as good as FEHB.

Our private coverage was that good and very affordable before ACA. We need nationalized regulated healthcare. It doesn’t have to be single payer, but the current market is not working.

It's pretty hard to see how we could get health costs under control without socializing healthcare and rationing care to the elderly. The real problem is the consistent *growth* in spending, and insurance companies aren't responsible for that.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Could that be diversionary if related to the cyberattack/Russia hackers?
One of the slogans was off I thought?
And LE wasn’t convinced it wasnt a diversionary tactic? At least yet.

This is Mideast-related shooter and power move, and he’s back there now laughing his @$$ off at all you myopic, self-centered, fixated insurance hater wannabes.

I think this is right.

NYPD said he left the city.

The backpack was found next to the carousel in a crowded area of Central Park. On Friday.

He must have a very good friend who left it there for him.

Placed in a crowded area? That seems suspicious.

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Anonymous wrote:He looks like Jake Gyllenhall.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

It's also odd that shooter has visible backpack which was "dumped" and found. Why not hide gun under coat?

Because the backpack held a different coat, hat, sunglasses, etc.

Lots of spec that the NYPD screwed up if the backpack was found at the carousel 3 days later.
Or it was recently placed there?

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Anonymous wrote:This couldn't have happened at a worse time for UHC. December 15 is the open enrollment deadline for the exchange and for many corporate plans. That ubiquitous denial rate graphic is going to hurt.

Yes. I’ve had no issues with United so far but after seeing their stats, I’m considering switching my FEHB plan before open enrollment ends Monday.

I’ve had a pretty good experience with my Federal BCBS plan for over a decade now.

I think we are lucky that the federal plans are better than some of the junk plans employers are willing to contribute toward in the private sector. For instance my births (including some extra high risk monitoring and a NICU stay) only cost me about $200/each.

When I hear about some families getting thousands of dollars in medical bills after bringing a new baby home it makes me so irate. It shouldn’t break the bank for people to want to start a family. I wish all coverage had to be as good as FEHB.

This is probably why Trump and friends want to fire you all. They don’t want others to have health insurance and such financial advantages.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

It's also odd that shooter has visible backpack which was "dumped" and found. Why not hide gun under coat?

Because the backpack held a different coat, hat, sunglasses, etc.

Lots of spec that the NYPD screwed up if the backpack was found at the carousel 3 days later.
Or it was recently placed there?

I also saw a photo of a police officer guarding a TJ Maxx paper bag but it’s unclear if that bag is related to this case.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-murder-midtown-shooting-suspect.amp

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Anonymous wrote:Another former FBI agent thread:

https://x.com/coffindafferfbi/status/1865050473562087469?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

Whoa.
New video of suspect. Looks different to me?

https://x.com/coffindafferfbi/status/1865391837915365522?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

Looks very different! More feminine, too.

Looks like complete AI. It’s fake.

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Anonymous wrote:HE WAS MURDERED.
Have some decency please.

He had no decency. He was getting rich off the backs of denied claims and the devastation caused to the claimants. Unfettered greed.

Is United known to be worse than other insurance companies about denying claims or would PPs say this about any insurance exec?

United is widely known to be the one of the worst offenders.

I know the Kaiser execs have 24 hour security now.

Airline execs are now getting 24/7 security. Pharma is next. Hospital systems already talking about it.
These costs get passed on.

Yeah I guess Thompson’s $23m package last year meant he couldn’t afford security detail. I didn’t know security guards made that much.

It was 10.1, not 23. No YouTube where you are?

He exercised the rest in stock options. That’s compensation. Doesn’t include the $150 million he and colleagues just dumped.

You know a lot about this guy. You definitely did some research.

Um, I read Apple News.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot NYPD has that they aren’t posting or telling. It will come out. It might be next year but it will come out.

Not a coincidence that this looks sort of like an old school mafia hit by a young guy who plays video games.

Uh, he does not look like a video game playing basement dweller..