Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

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I did see Hungerford write ups. They had couple of write ups for BOE. They actually asked T3 to be moved to RM#5 in many letters. Not sure if you saw it, but one of the BOE member sshowed it to me.

T3 to Hungerford ?? , why on earth would they pry a high FARMS neighborhood away from TB and into their low FARMs heaven ?

Well, I am just sharing what I saw. It may have been an attempt to balance capacity. I meant trying to reduce TB below 100%. I don't see any other reason.

Well, we are not as bad as people might think. We are thinking about what's best for the cluster.

I thought rezoning was Hungerford's idea to bring hardship to peaceful communities who simply want things to stay as they were ?

[Anonymous]

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Well, school collectively belongs to all tax payers and not exclusively to WG or Hungerfrod groups. That was the point here.

....On June 11, 1774, a group of outraged citizens gathered at Charles Hungerford’s tavern, at the crossroads of what would become Jefferson and Washington streets in the town of Rockville, Maryland, to publicly declare solidarity with their besieged fellow Americans. The men were leaders of the county (at the time, Montgomery was part of Frederick County; it would not become a separate political entity until 1776). The group included such distinguished gentlemen as Dr. Thomas Sprigg Wootton and Col. Zadok Magruder; two centuries later the two men’s contributions to the county would be honored with high schools named after them.Boston_Tea_Party_Currier_colored

Together the men hammered out a set of resolutions that in no uncertain terms expressed their outrage over the Boston incidents. The Hungerford Resolves, as the resolutions became known, were the area’s first articulation of American freedom from Great Britain – published with names boldly stated....

https://markwalston.com/2015/09/11/the-boston-tea-party-and-the-hungerford-resolves/

what else is there to expect from their spiritual descendants in 2017

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Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent

Why do people think that this is a popularity contest?

Great point. No matter how many from WG speak for keeping WG in CG, they don't face any hardship by going to Beall. BOE should make decision which ensures that we don't have portables in CG, even if 100 folks beg them to have portables in CG. CG has many townhouses coming and I don't want to see portables in CG.

- A King Farms Parent.

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I thought rezoning was Hungerford's idea to bring hardship to peaceful communities who simply want things to stay as they were ?

MCPS had junk data. It was called out.

Now you have 5 options. If you want to hear then go talk to Kings farm parent. Talk to other CG parents who a re not in WG. No one wants portable.

GO and talk to parents who walk to Beall. They don't want portables in Beall.

Why do you think all those folks would like to keep the same situation? Portables will be a reality just after 2 years if we keep no room in these two schools.

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Right here. YOU are the reason I hope A or B gets picked. Your mother f'ing association cherry picked neighborhoods to make B and then E comes out and you go gaga over that and abandon YOUR own changes.

It disrupts B5 who is walkable and sends them on a bus to RM5 down the pike AND RP2 (in your neighborhood) which is 100% walkable gets turned away to keep getting bussed. It also magically makes your FARMS in the teens which is insane considering your closest school across 355 has 70%.

You are disgusting.

I happen to believe that Hungerford is almost Potomac . North-East Potomac to be precise.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you framing this as RP2 isn't "welcome to stay" at Ritchie Park??? RP6 is also moving in the same scenarios - is RP6 also not welcome at Ritchie Park? In the scenarios where RP5 moves, is it because Fallsgrove is not welcome at Ritchie Park???

Ritchie Park would love to have students from RP2 & RP6 stay, just like Ritchie Park would love to have all of their students stay because people are friends and kids like the school (but that's not the point in a boundary rezoning!) - I go to Ritchie Park - the parents in RP2 are my friends, the children in RP2 are my child's friends. No one wants them to leave. There is a new school opening - SOME children will need to leave every school. No one is kicking anyone out - the parents at the schools didn't draw the zoning and boundary option maps (except, Alternative B, of course!). All of the parents I have talked to in RP2 (yes, I've talked to actual human beings who live in RP2!) want to go to the new school. They expected to go to the new school. Some of those parents live in the single family homes in the neighborhood, some of those parents live in the lower income housing. There are always some people who don't want to go to a new school in a zone (I think we can all think of some examples), and I've spoken to a few who love Ritchie Park and want to stay, but in general, RP2 (the actual human beings who live there and can speak their own opinions) want to go to a new school in their neighborhood. No one is kicking them out.

This is a really good attitude. RP2 students should feel welcome whether they stay in RPES or they come to RMES5. If this was only a question of proximity, they would definitely be assigned in RMES5. But if it a question of which school can serve them better, RPES is the obvious choice.

How will RP serve them better? 24.5% FARMS instead of 26% (30% in class) with Option B. For 5% - really? For about 20 less FARMS kids in the whole school they can't go to their own neighborhood school that is being built for them to walk to? I think RP5 and RP2/6 are being used as pawns in some game in Option E. Both have to go further to look slightly better on paper. Same with B5. If it was a substantial difference, yes I can see maybe letting RP5 go a few lmilies further, but I will never advocate for a walkable section to get bussed elsewhere. We aren't doing it in any other cluster school and we shouldn't do it to RP2 with RM5 either.

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Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent

Why do people think that this is a popularity contest?

Great point. No matter how many from WG speak for keeping WG in CG, they don't face any hardship by going to Beall. BOE should make decision which ensures that we don't have portables in CG, even if 100 folks beg them to have portables in CG. CG has many townhouses coming and I don't want to see portables in CG.

- A King Farms Parent.

Then why don't we send the rest of your neighborhood to the Gaithersburg cluster then? Your neighborhood is the reason we are overcrowded. WG was there long before you.

How about we send you all to RM5 instead of RP5 and you can have Fallsgrove's commute that everyone thinks is no big deal to make longer.

How about we let a civic association come in and force their own ideas that breaks up the middle of CG neighborhoods.

We could also build a school inside King Farm and then deny the option to walk there. Bus you to another school instead.

Should we have the superintendent remove all of your areas but C1 to different schools like TB? Would you be okay with that?

CG should just STFU. You lose CI and that is it. Possibly CG3. You will still lose all portables and have your polished new school with FARMS barely changed in the low to mid teens no matter what. Nothing is threatening you. Twinbrook will still be falling apart, RP will be at 98% or over capacity in all options and losing friends, and Beall is going to be losing many friends/neighborhoods while new ones are being built around them. But here you with no changes coming your way, but you are bitching about one neighborhood very close to CG (closer than Kings Farm) who doesn't want to move, to change you from 100% to 95% capacity 3-5yrs out. At that point Crown will be built anyway. I am sure they have nothing against Beall but you make them sound like cold hearted ruthless people. Yet you sit in your overpriced new home, safely knowing you aren't getting bumped. Good for you. Congrats.

[Anonymous]

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I did see Hungerford write ups. They had couple of write ups for BOE. They actually asked T3 to be moved to RM#5 in many letters. Not sure if you saw it, but one of the BOE member sshowed it to me.

T3 to Hungerford ?? , why on earth would they pry a high FARMS neighborhood away from TB and into their low FARMs heaven ?

Well, I am just sharing what I saw. It may have been an attempt to balance capacity. I meant trying to reduce TB below 100%. I don't see any other reason.

Well, we are not as bad as people might think. We are thinking about what's best for the cluster.

I thought rezoning was Hungerford's idea to bring hardship to peaceful communities who simply want things to stay as they were ?

Ironic, huh?

How about we send RP2/6 to their new neighborhood school they are zoned for, and then bring in T3/4 as well. Then we bus Hungerford to TB. I mean if it balances FARMS, it is okay to bus people, right? They would be okay with that if it is best for the community and diversity.

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That intersection isn’t on the RP5 path

Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent






Well I guess some of you CG parents should have shown up to testify on your school's behalf. Every CG presenter was for Option A.

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That intersection isn’t on the RP5 path

Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent

Well I guess some of you CG parents should have shown up to testify on your school's behalf. Every CG presenter was for Option A.

There are plenty of CG parents who support option A. -another CG parent

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Right here. YOU are the reason I hope A or B gets picked. Your mother f'ing association cherry picked neighborhoods to make B and then E comes out and you go gaga over that and abandon YOUR own changes.

It disrupts B5 who is walkable and sends them on a bus to RM5 down the pike AND RP2 (in your neighborhood) which is 100% walkable gets turned away to keep getting bussed. It also magically makes your FARMS in the teens which is insane considering your closest school across 355 has 70%.

You are disgusting.

I happen to believe that Hungerford is almost Potomac . North-East Potomac to be precise.

Funny how the most affordable neighborhood in the cluster tried their hardest to limit farms even if it means moving certain neighbors. I don't believe that hungerford asked for twinbrook to stay in RMES. Their proposal even removed twinbrook and the board (watch the videos) said how they received emails from hungerford in how students "don't belong." They have one of the cheapest neighborhoods in the cluster there will be some neighbors with farms, not a big deal(communities are built on neighborhoods not some farms number), especially if they are able to get title one in the future.

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Why can't farms students be allowed to attend any school that is under capacity? it seems more dynamic, if their parents are willing to drive them, what's the harm in opening the boundaries for families with low means can attend any school that is under capacity. If they feel they cannot get the same education at a high farms school, why can't they go to any school in the cluster that is under capacity. If my school had capacity, I think those students would be a great addition to our school

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Why are you framing this as RP2 isn't "welcome to stay" at Ritchie Park??? RP6 is also moving in the same scenarios - is RP6 also not welcome at Ritchie Park? In the scenarios where RP5 moves, is it because Fallsgrove is not welcome at Ritchie Park???

RP6 is welcome anywhere (so basically a non-factor) because there are few FARMS students. Please don't be this dense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[

That intersection isn’t on the RP5 path

Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent

Well I guess some of you CG parents should have shown up to testify on your school's behalf. Every CG presenter was for Option A.

There are plenty of CG parents who support option A. -another CG parent
Yep - this King Farm CG parent supports Option B. Actually what I think should have been done is leave Twinbrook alone but blow up the rest of the boundaries and let the domino effect happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

That intersection isn’t on the RP5 path

Every option that tries to balance FARMS is a hardship for multiple sections and hasn't had any feasibility studies done. Not actual rush hour traffic times, not taking into consideration if there are enough busses. If those busses can hit some random areas and islands proficiently with full busses. If busses can get from JW in AM to the next set of stops, drop the kids off and still make it to their tier 2 bus stops and to that tier 2 school on time. How will the two tier times affect the new school. They were brought on WAY too quickly and it was obvious some of the board members are a little ticked the super even came up with his own crazy options on his own.

A and B should be the only options left on the table. The one HCA proposed (B) and the one that was the most popular in the study poll (A.)

A is worst choice. I don't want to see CG in portable forever. Give us some break. Don't listen to only WG folks.

- CG parent

Well I guess some of you CG parents should have shown up to testify on your school's behalf. Every CG presenter was for Option A.

testimony is just one way to collect input. BOE is getting all inputs they need.