ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.

[Anonymous]

Vance claimed the shooter had been hit by vehicles twice before. Seems to me that could reflect a pattern of unprofessional action. We know that ICE agents have come right up to vehicles that are not even part of any ICE target or protest action (people who were driving and happened to find themselves surrounded by an ICE raid) to smash windows and grab people.

[Anonymous]

Interesting follow up about the woman shot in Chicago (who survived). Feds tried to charge her, but their case fell apart:

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/chicago-shooting-ice-killing-minneapolis/

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.

Both of those people are firmly in white supremacist circles where they have profited 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars in Rittenhouse's case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

PP here, thanks for adding your expertise here. Could the judge in the federal case determine that the agent was acting outside his federal authority, therefore making a state case possible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.

Both of those people are firmly in white supremacist circles where they have profited 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars in Rittenhouse's case.

I’m willing to bet the killer is going to go into grift mode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting follow up about the woman shot in Chicago (who survived). Feds tried to charge her, but their case fell apart:

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/chicago-shooting-ice-killing-minneapolis/

DHS’s initial pronouncement about that case was incredibly similar to what they put out in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting follow up about the woman shot in Chicago (who survived). Feds tried to charge her, but their case fell apart:

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/chicago-shooting-ice-killing-minneapolis/

DHS’s initial pronouncement about that case was incredibly similar to what they put out in this case.

They don’t have many BS stories to pull from.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon

There has been another shooting with Border Patrol in Portland, Oregon. No details yet on this one.

Oh, Portland?

Oh boy.

They will need the NG.

2020 re run incoming. The admin has a year to get things done and I think the urgency has set in.

Dems were guaranteed a POTUS election victory in 2020 the day Trump was elected in 2016 and the GOP was guaranteed a POTUS election victory in 2024 the day Biden was elected in 2020. 2028? Yep, guaranteed Dem POTUS election victory. It's been a sad cycle. Especially with Trump being on the winning side twice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was leaving and the car behind her cut her off, which is why she stopped.

That's not entirely clear, but it is red herring. Whether she was illegally and deliberately blocking traffic, or simple pulled into the lane but was waiting, or whatever she was doing - ICE did not have the right to do what they did. People have a right to protest, and they may be arrested if they break the law, but they should not be killed unless they are trying to kill someone else. She was not trying to kill ICE agent Ross.

He put himself into harm's way, stupidly.

He walked right in front of her car, immediately pulled his gun, and shot her.

He was standing to the side of her car, safe and sound. He suddenly walked right in front of her car and, within a second, drew his weapon and fired into her face.

That's something you do in wartime, to an enemy. That's not what you do for a traffic infraction for someone who has committed no violent crime, is not suspected of committing a serious crime; who is at most obstructing traffic on a small, residential, one-way street - perhaps "disorderly conduct" or a misdemenor at worst.

[Anonymous]

Renee Good’s youngest child is now an orphan.

Renee Nicole Good, 37, was a US citizen sh0t and kill3d by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. 🕊🖤

-She lived in the Twin Cities with her partner and had moved there from Kansas City last year.

-Good was a mother of three: two children (15 and 12) from her first marriage and a 6-year-old from her second.

-She spent most of her life in Colorado and lived briefly in Kansas after her husband, a military veteran, di3d.

-The father of her youngest child di3d in 2023; family members said the boy has no other parental figure.

-Good co-hosted a podcast with her late second husband, Tim Macklin.

-She was described as a devoted Christian, participated in youth mission trips, and had a passion for singing.

-She studied vocal performance and later creative writing, earning an English degree in 2020 and winning a writing prize that year.

-On social media, Good described herself as a “poet and writer and wife and mom,” sharing moments of her life in Minneapolis.

“Renee was one of the kindest people I’ve ever known. She was extremely compassionate,” her mother, Donna Ganger, said. “She’s taken care of people all her life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.

Both of those people are firmly in white supremacist circles where they have profited 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars in Rittenhouse's case.

I’m willing to bet the killer is going to go into grift mode.

He'll have a prime time spot at the next Republican convention

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.

Both of those people are firmly in white supremacist circles where they have profited 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars in Rittenhouse's case.

Zimmerman is homeless. Rittenhouse works some garbage job paycheck to paycheck with civil suits awaiting any funds he will ever get.

Neither one is ever going to be “safe” or able to eat at a restaurant or live like a normal person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She was leaving and the car behind her cut her off, which is why she stopped.

That's not entirely clear, but it is red herring. Whether she was illegally and deliberately blocking traffic, or simple pulled into the lane but was waiting, or whatever she was doing - ICE did not have the right to do what they did. People have a right to protest, and they may be arrested if they break the law, but they should not be killed unless they are trying to kill someone else. She was not trying to kill ICE agent Ross.

He put himself into harm's way, stupidly.

He walked right in front of her car, immediately pulled his gun, and shot her.

He was standing to the side of her car, safe and sound. He suddenly walked right in front of her car and, within a second, drew his weapon and fired into her face.

That's something you do in wartime, to an enemy. That's not what you do for a traffic infraction for someone who has committed no violent crime, is not suspected of committing a serious crime; who is at most obstructing traffic on a small, residential, one-way street - perhaps "disorderly conduct" or a misdemenor at worst.

No one with an IQ over 75 will argue with your description of this tragic event.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting follow up about the woman shot in Chicago (who survived). Feds tried to charge her, but their case fell apart:

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/chicago-shooting-ice-killing-minneapolis/

DHS’s initial pronouncement about that case was incredibly similar to what they put out in this case.

They don’t have many BS stories to pull from.

It’s mostly “interfering with law enforcement activity” but ICE’s definition of interference is extremely broad. Like if a protestor shouts at them or does something that doesn’t display adulation, ICE deems that “interference.”