ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was there to disrupt ICE operations and over achieved by hitting one with her car.

Simple as that. The fact she got shot is up
To the courts, if it makes it there.

May you get the ICE treatment you support and the subsequent justice you deserve some day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter Mr Ross is the one who was obstructing traffic BTW. Look at him walking in the street, not focused on the victims car at all, just hanging out.

I'd like to see the earlier and later parts of this video for sure. What was he doing? Hanging around trying to harrass people?

He was also recording his actions. holding his phone in bare hands, in Minneapolis, in January. Phone in the left hand gun in the right.

Why did he leave the scene soon after? I would think even the most basic training and policy would require him to remain at the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JUST IN: Renee Nicole Good was reportedly a Minneapolis "ICE Watch" "warrior" who "trained" to resist feds, according to the New York Post.

The Post reports that Good worked to "document and resist" ICE in Minnesota.

Good is said to have moved to Minneapolis last year and quickly connected with anti-ICE activists through her son's charter school.

The charter school says it puts "social justice first" and "involving kids in political and social activism," according to the Post.

"She was a warrior. She died doing what was right," a parent whose child goes to the school told the outlet.

"[Good] was trained against these ICE agents, what to do, what not to do, it’s a very thorough training... To listen to commands, to know your rights, to whistle when you see an ICE agent," the parent 'Leesa' said.

The Goods reportedly moved to Canada from Kansas City after Trump won the 2024 election and planned on living there permanently before relocating to Minneapolis.

Source: New York Post.

Where is the relevance? Opinions like these expose the white supremacy that runs deep in white people. Perhaps all those Freedom Riders (1961) from the north should have been ripped from their bus seats and shot in the streets. Yes, I know these examples are white activists, but they're looked at as race traitors, just like Renee Good and Heather Heyer.

I think it is relevant if part of her “training” given by this group was to use her car to block roads and refuse ICE orders to move. They should not be telling people to do this and this is not part of peaceful protesting. She should have moved her car when they initially told her to. She didn’t. She should have then complied when they told her multiple times to get out of her car. She didn’t. She panicked and tried to flee when multiple officers were very close to her car- too close for her to be safely driving away. It’s a very bad idea to try and drive away when a police officer is at the window of your car trying to open your door, another is close to the side, and another is in front. I don’t believe she intended to drive into anyone- but she wasn’t in a position to safely maneuver her car, panicked, and tried anyway. This group should be investigating if they are indeed advising people dangerous means of resisting.

She has the right to peacefully protest however she likes. If she's breaking the law, then law enforcement can move her from the scene in a safe manner and arrest her if they wish. They don't get to do things such as pick up a nonviolent protester and bodyslam them, beat them with sticks, or execute them. Remember all those white supremacists in their semis blocking the beltway to protest covid shutdowns? Did the feds or national guard send in tanks and armored vehicles to dispose of them? Unfortunately, a gathering of only white people displaying a bunch of American flags is basically a proxy Klan rally these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon

There has been another shooting with Border Patrol in Portland, Oregon. No details yet on this one.

Oh, Portland?

Oh boy.

They will need the NG.

2020 re run incoming. The admin has a year to get things done and I think the urgency has set in.

We have eleven months until the midterms. I think they are going to do their worst as they start to get anxious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was there to disrupt ICE operations and over achieved by hitting one with her car.

Simple as that. The fact she got shot is up
To the courts, if it makes it there.

No. That's not at all what happened.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

What about the FTCA? Is that an option regardless of government (in)action?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon

There has been another shooting with Border Patrol in Portland, Oregon. No details yet on this one.

Oh, Portland?

Oh boy.

They will need the NG.

2020 re run incoming. The admin has a year to get things done and I think the urgency has set in.

We have eleven months until the midterms. I think they are going to do their worst as they start to get anxious.

Not even. They have a few months before campaigns start rolling out. If I were the Dems, I'd start them now so that the GOP incumbent candidates in most districts/states will either have to double down on stupidity or move toward the center to try to keep the seats they will probably lose anyway.

[Anonymous]

Counterprotestor Jayden Scott had a megaphone in Mpls today and said "we executed one of you yesterday."

Video is posted on reddit:


https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q7p6nd/mods_removed_my_last_post_conservative_counter/

[Anonymous]

She was leaving and the car behind her cut her off, which is why she stopped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

What about the FTCA? Is that an option regardless of government (in)action?

Yes, that is a civil case option for the victim’s family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon

There has been another shooting with Border Patrol in Portland, Oregon. No details yet on this one.

Oh, Portland?

Oh boy.

They will need the NG.

2020 re run incoming. The admin has a year to get things done and I think the urgency has set in.

We have eleven months until the midterms. I think they are going to do their worst as they start to get anxious.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.

He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.

Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal

Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.

Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Counterprotestor Jayden Scott had a megaphone in Mpls today and said "we executed one of you yesterday."

Video is posted on reddit:


https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q7p6nd/mods_removed_my_last_post_conservative_counter/

At least he admitted that it was an execution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was there to disrupt ICE operations and over achieved by hitting one with her car.

Simple as that. The fact she got shot is up
To the courts, if it makes it there.

No. That's not at all what happened.

So it looks like at no point is anyone in front of the vehicle.