ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.


He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.


Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal


Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.


Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.


This little piggy has a house, with a little piggy family. How does a hothead murderer behave off the clock? My guess is the same way he behaves on the clock. Ride him annd every single member of his extended family until someone screws up.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.


He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.


Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal


Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.


Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.

Well, if he doesn’t get justice the legal way…someone might commit justice the old fashion way.


Even if he never gets the justice he deserves he will live out his days as a joke like Zimmerman or Rittenhouse, most likely.


Both of those people are firmly in white supremacist circles where they have profited 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars in Rittenhouse's case.


I’m willing to bet the killer is going to go into grift mode.


lol good luck to him.

They will use him briefly and then toss him in the garbage with the others.
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Anonymous wrote:This guy was involved in another vehicle incident. And this makes it worse for him.

After that incident, he must have gone through extensive retraining on how to approach a vehicle. And from the front is not an approved method. So either he panicked (in which case he wasn't fit for duty) or he ignored his original training plus the extensive retraining he has had in the past few months (in which case he is unfit for duty).

Boy's in BIG trouble.

What trouble? They’ve already said they’re not going to prosecute.


He would be in big trouble if we had a functional government that held it agents accountable. We do not. Have a criminal gang that will protect its own.


Even if someone tried to prosecute him, Trump would pardon him. He pardoned the J6 domestic terrorists who killed Capitol police and some drug kingpins. Pardoning ICE would be no big deal


Not if it isn’t federal.

Correct. Both the state and the feds could investigate this shooting and prosecute if the facts warrant it, just like Derek Chauvin and the other officers in the George Floyd case. However after this shooting, it seems like the feds are refusing to even investigate, and they aren’t cooperating with the state so the state can’t investigate/prosecute if necessary either.


Even if Minnesota was allowed access to conduct a full investigation, if they file charges against Ross the US Attorney has the discretion to remove the action to federal court under the supremacy clause because it’s a federal agent acting under federal authority. The US Attorney could then choose to dismiss the case. And even if the USA didn’t remove the case to federal court, under the federal agent statutes Ross could demand the removal himself.

It’s a bit less clear whether a state action prosecuted in federal court could be pardoned by the president, but given the many powers this SCOTUS has in recent years granted to the executive, it’s possible they would grant that one as well.

This former defender and prosecutor is certainly hoping that Ross will eventually face justice and prison, but pragmatically speaking I realize it’s possible he just won’t.


This little piggy has a house, with a little piggy family. How does a hothead murderer behave off the clock? My guess is the same way he behaves on the clock. Ride him annd every single member of his extended family until someone screws up.


For sure. He’s probably violent at home too.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting follow up about the woman shot in Chicago (who survived). Feds tried to charge her, but their case fell apart:

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/chicago-shooting-ice-killing-minneapolis/

DHS’s initial pronouncement about that case was incredibly similar to what they put out in this case.


They don’t have many BS stories to pull from.

True, they just did it again.
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This seems like a civil war.
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Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.


He is apparent from here in Virginia!


What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.


The video shows he did not even take his gun out of the little belt thingy until after there was forward movement of the SUV.


It’s called a holster
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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a civil war.
Well, we're on the side of America.
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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a civil war.


Well, that would really suck, but it is what it is.
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I wonder how many people this guy has abused. Anyone ready to shoot an innocent woman that quickly has hurt people before.
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Uh, well whoever "specially trained" this idiot must be embarrassed after what happened yesterday.
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Uh, well whoever "specially trained" this idiot must be embarrassed after what happened yesterday.


It'd be a real plot twist is SRT says they never heard of the guy...
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"Elite Training"

Members of ERO’s eight SRTs nationwide are trained to serve high-risk warrants under hazardous conditions, escort dangerous criminal aliens who have been ordered deported and assist local law enforcement agencies during critical incidents.

SRT members undergo a unique combination of specialized training and real-world experiences. The work of the SRT members is often grueling and so is the training they undergo at Ft. Benning, Georgia. SRT training lasts three weeks and includes several components. At a minimum, students must complete a 1.5 mile run in less than 12 minutes, drag a dummy for 25 yards, complete 30 pushups and scale over a six-foot wall in full tactical gear.


https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/eros-special-response-teams-rigorously-trained-and-ready-deploy-moments-notice



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