Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:North Port Police still believe he's in the area of the Carlton Reserve (where his mustang was picked up). They've called in divers to search the pond/lake area of the reserve, looking for Brian's body. I guess they can't/won't clear the reserve until they've searched the water areas.

You can watch live footage of the search on WFLA in Florida.

What if this is all a big distraction, and he has long since left the area? Eric Toth (the Beauvoir teacher) left his car and a suicide note at the MN airport but was long gone from there.

I think it is ridiculous LE are still concentrating on the Sarasota County area instead of the Alabama/Florida border or Baker, Fl.

Oh I assure you LE is alert in all those area. You are going on what the media is telling you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:North Port Police still believe he's in the area of the Carlton Reserve (where his mustang was picked up). They've called in divers to search the pond/lake area of the reserve, looking for Brian's body. I guess they can't/won't clear the reserve until they've searched the water areas.

You can watch live footage of the search on WFLA in Florida.

What if this is all a big distraction, and he has long since left the area? Eric Toth (the Beauvoir teacher) left his car and a suicide note at the MN airport but was long gone from there.

I think it is ridiculous LE are still concentrating on the Sarasota County area instead of the Alabama/Florida border or Baker, Fl.

If he's smart (and let's face it, he has demonstrated he's good at manipulating law enforcement), he planted his car there and had a plan to head elsewhere (either on foot, in a stolen car, an arranged ride, public transportation, etc.). Heck, maybe he took a bike or collapsible scooter with him? Maybe he took an inflatable kayak or arranged for a boat? He seems savvy enough to chart a course to escape and either disappear into the US wilderness or leave the country altogether.

Or maybe he killed himself.

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Anonymous wrote:So you believe he is willingly living in a swamp, with the bugs, gators, snakes and who knows what else without a tent?

He won’t stay there. He’ll hike along the perimeter and exit when he finds a safe, remote area. He probably knows that preserve well. I’m guessing he is long out of the swamp. Probably helped by his parents. He could easily be out of the country by now. I hope not.

being an international fugitive takes resources. Judging by his parents' house, they don't have those resources. If he fled the country he'll turn up eventually

Wrong. His parents owned four properties in Florida. Not everyone goes all out with new money purchases in gated neighborhoods.

On top of that they recently liquidated three - one condo received $50,000 in equity, another home sold for $20,000 in equity, and a third was $55,000 in equity. So they have/had $125,000 in cash without touching retirement or the rest of home sale values when he showed up with 13 days to run ahead of the police.

That's enough to lay low for 5 years in Mexico, learn the language and find a permanent out of the way community, as long as he doesn't trust the wrong people.

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Brian’s attorney makes a brief statement

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Anonymous wrote:My point is what caused the disarray?

It was not even 2 months yet and , since they lived together for 2 years before that here is the lesson in why young adults should be counseled against running off like this with no purpose , no job and no concrete supports at that age:

They had a very vague plan and itinerary -but a chained together in a confined space - the van - which traps them to stay together in away because for each of them the van is their only form of shelter and transportation

Had they been Eurailing in Europe and had a Youth Hostel pass , they each could have gone their separate ways , but do you see - either they end their trip ( both give up their dream ) AND break up OR they stay in that Van and keep trying

Many young people have a hard time breaking up with the person that they have allowed themselves to become too dependent upon BUT for each of them , to break up meant giving up the van ( she can’t drive so she has to give up the whole trip ) . He has to admit failure to her, his parents and her parents - and himself

Had they each had an independent means of travel and their own money , they could have separated and Gabby write her blog ,” I kicked my lame bf out of my van and now I’m living my dream on my own ‘ cause I’m enough “ ( I would have followed her )

Instead, tragically- The pressure of their opposing goals begins to grate at Brian - “ she has this little blog “ ( Gabby wants to write a fairy tale )What does Brian want : he is basically an anti-social who just wants to hike off to the Wild barefoot and live off the land . Gabby wants him home for dinner and she wants to post photos of what she cooked and he should smile while he eats it

He can’t stand his own sense of failure and he feels trapped - kinda like people who kill themselves - too bad he didn’t . Instead, he kills her …now he can go on walkabout and not come back

Oh, come on. Lots of young people go on adventures without being murdered by their boyfriend. I backpacked across rural Romania, Serbia, Bosnia and Slovakia with a boyfriend at 22. Still alive. All pre-cell phone in extremely rural locations with no one checking on me. I was 100% unemployed, as was he, and we were getting by on a few dollars a day. It was amazing and an experience I'll never forget. Now I'm a right 40-something boring lawyer with kids.

Gabby could have left at any time. She had access to the internet. She was in touch with her mom. She was in the States and in tourist locations. There was nothing inherently unsafe about a van trip with a boyfriend. She just picked the wrong guy and didn't follow her good sense to leave when things went downhill. The plan to camp in US parks in a van wasn't the problem. It was not leaving when it became apparent there was a problem with the guy and relationship.

You’ve obviously never been in an abusive relationship. I stayed for 8 years. I had strong family support. I had money. I didn’t leave. He destroyed every bit of self-esteem I ever had. He broke my bones, but breaking my spirit is what kept me from leaving. He threatened to disappear with my kids. He threatened to kill me. He practiced killing me several times. He threatened to kill my family. It took serious intervention by a close friend, the police, a victims rights advocate, the courts, and a domestic violence counselor to help me get away. This was almost 25 years ago. I suffer from PTSD with panic. I will never fully heal.

People thought we were the perfect couple. He was an Army officer. I stayed at home with our kids. No one knew what I was going through at home. It’s not as easy as “just leave”.

The issue was the guy and relationship. Not that they were traveling by van instead of train, as the PP said. Not that she was unemployed. Not that she was on IG or blogging. He could have just as easily killed her if they had gone no where. I don't think anything you said contradicts my point that there is noting inherently dangerous about taking a van trip with a boyfriend as a 22 yo. The problem wasn't the plan.

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I think the police are concentrating on the reserve because they found something in Brian's house that made them decide to search again in the reserve. The day after they searched his parents' house, they were back in the reserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you believe he is willingly living in a swamp, with the bugs, gators, snakes and who knows what else without a tent?

He won’t stay there. He’ll hike along the perimeter and exit when he finds a safe, remote area. He probably knows that preserve well. I’m guessing he is long out of the swamp. Probably helped by his parents. He could easily be out of the country by now. I hope not.

being an international fugitive takes resources. Judging by his parents' house, they don't have those resources. If he fled the country he'll turn up eventually

Wrong. His parents owned four properties in Florida. Not everyone goes all out with new money purchases in gated neighborhoods.

On top of that they recently liquidated three - one condo received $50,000 in equity, another home sold for $20,000 in equity, and a third was $55,000 in equity. So they have/had $125,000 in cash without touching retirement or the rest of home sale values when he showed up with 13 days to run ahead of the police.

That's enough to lay low for 5 years in Mexico, learn the language and find a permanent out of the way community, as long as he doesn't trust the wrong people.

good luck with that. An American fugitive with some cash trying to lay low in Mexico is going to end up robbed or dead

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Anonymous wrote:Brian’s attorney makes a brief statement

You mean his parents attorneys since I thought they didn't know where he was and weren't in contact? What did the attorney say? 'No comment, sorry about the dead girl?'

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Tell me your attorney is your second cousin who is a crack dealer on the side without telling me your attorney is your second cousin who is a crack dealer on the side

Gabby Petito's family has sent a cease and desist letter to Brian Laundrie's lawyer after he used photos of their dead daughter on his business's Yelp page.

Richard Benson Stafford, the attorney for the Petito family, is demanding the Laundrie family lawyer Steven Bertolino take down the photos by 2pm Wednesday or face 'further action.'

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Anonymous wrote:Tell me your attorney is your second cousin who is a crack dealer on the side without telling me your attorney is your second cousin who is a crack dealer on the side

Gabby Petito's family has sent a cease and desist letter to Brian Laundrie's lawyer after he used photos of their dead daughter on his business's Yelp page.

Richard Benson Stafford, the attorney for the Petito family, is demanding the Laundrie family lawyer Steven Bertolino take down the photos by 2pm Wednesday or face 'further action.'

I hope they file a complaint with the Florida bar. This is essentially bragging that he helped his client avoid arrest for murdering his girl friend. Totally inappropriate for the lawyer. Reprehensible.

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That Yelp account is unclaimed. The attorney didn't post gabby's photo there.

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All this speculation is entertaining, but pointless. The guy killed himself.

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Anonymous wrote:All this speculation is entertaining, but pointless. The guy killed himself.

Is this the same speculation that said Gabby wandered off into the desert and was hiding in a psych center of her own choosing? Just asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you believe he is willingly living in a swamp, with the bugs, gators, snakes and who knows what else without a tent?

He won’t stay there. He’ll hike along the perimeter and exit when he finds a safe, remote area. He probably knows that preserve well. I’m guessing he is long out of the swamp. Probably helped by his parents. He could easily be out of the country by now. I hope not.

being an international fugitive takes resources. Judging by his parents' house, they don't have those resources. If he fled the country he'll turn up eventually

Wrong. His parents owned four properties in Florida. Not everyone goes all out with new money purchases in gated neighborhoods.

On top of that they recently liquidated three - one condo received $50,000 in equity, another home sold for $20,000 in equity, and a third was $55,000 in equity. So they have/had $125,000 in cash without touching retirement or the rest of home sale values when he showed up with 13 days to run ahead of the police.

That's enough to lay low for 5 years in Mexico, learn the language and find a permanent out of the way community, as long as he doesn't trust the wrong people.

Wow. How recent is "recently"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:North Port Police still believe he's in the area of the Carlton Reserve (where his mustang was picked up). They've called in divers to search the pond/lake area of the reserve, looking for Brian's body. I guess they can't/won't clear the reserve until they've searched the water areas.

You can watch live footage of the search on WFLA in Florida.

What if this is all a big distraction, and he has long since left the area? Eric Toth (the Beauvoir teacher) left his car and a suicide note at the MN airport but was long gone from there.

I think it is ridiculous LE are still concentrating on the Sarasota County area instead of the Alabama/Florida border or Baker, Fl.

Oh I assure you LE is alert in all those area. You are going on what the media is telling you.

NP: he could have taken a privet bus (like Peter Pan) to almost anyplace and there would be no record - especially if he is wearing his Covid mask and a hat.