ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the date of this article. Change is coming either get or board or be left at the station.

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/u-s-soccer-launches-ncs-committee-to-evaluate-the-college-gam/

Where in the article does it say the ncaa is asking for this?

NCAA is in trouble now that they have to pay players. This is why US Soccer is putting together a plan. NCAA will gladly drop a non revenue sports like Soccer if it allows them to focus on Football and Basketball. The only reason to keep Soccer is the number of female players it provides for Title 9.

NCAA pays no players. At all. The schools do. The schools will not be interested in anything that moves programs out of their control. They would rather close the programs. It is a brand issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

Different poster - but college recruiting very much cares about age cut offs. Sure you have the random 25 year old international, but most recruiting is still the traditional graduating senior who is getting compared against other graduating seniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

Different poster - but college recruiting very much cares about age cut offs. Sure you have the random 25 year old international, but most recruiting is still the traditional graduating senior who is getting compared against other graduating seniors.

*take out senior and replace it with same recruiting class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its so weird to me that someone would advocate that players would want to play in college but not play professionally.

Would you say the same thing about football, baseball, or basketball players?

Everyone wants to play professionally. Sometimes players never get the opportunity and sometimes they don't. But in a perfect world, if given the option players 9x out of 10 will choose to play professionally.

The sports are just different. Girl's soccer in the US at the ECNL/GA levels trends some middle class but UMC and just rich. The women have other options. Go to Duke and than a consulting form or investment bank or law school or med school? Much better options. There is no money in it except for a very few. It is not like the NBA where Jeremy Lin thought he would try a couple of years and put off med school. His minimum comp was 600k. If that were the option you would see more women be interested. Lin signed a contract that paid him a couple of million a year and then signed a contract that paid him 5 million a year. Sure take that chance. But it does not add up on the women's side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the date of this article. Change is coming either get or board or be left at the station.

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/u-s-soccer-launches-ncs-committee-to-evaluate-the-college-gam/

Where in the article does it say the ncaa is asking for this?

NCAA is in trouble now that they have to pay players. This is why US Soccer is putting together a plan. NCAA will gladly drop a non revenue sports like Soccer if it allows them to focus on Football and Basketball. The only reason to keep Soccer is the number of female players it provides for Title 9.

NCAA pays no players. At all. The schools do. The schools will not be interested in anything that moves programs out of their control. They would rather close the programs. It is a brand issue.

Not really. The top colleges will want to play 2nd tier pro teams. The bottom colleges will not want to play 2nd tier pro teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the date of this article. Change is coming either get or board or be left at the station.

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/u-s-soccer-launches-ncs-committee-to-evaluate-the-college-gam/

Where in the article does it say the ncaa is asking for this?

NCAA is in trouble now that they have to pay players. This is why US Soccer is putting together a plan. NCAA will gladly drop a non revenue sports like Soccer if it allows them to focus on Football and Basketball. The only reason to keep Soccer is the number of female players it provides for Title 9.

NCAA pays no players. At all. The schools do. The schools will not be interested in anything that moves programs out of their control. They would rather close the programs. It is a brand issue.

Not really. The top colleges will want to play 2nd tier pro teams. The bottom colleges will not want to play 2nd tier pro teams.

Exactly, and if colleges have to pay players either way wouldn't it make sense to play LOCAL high level competition to avoid transportation costs? Wouldn't it also make sense to create an exclusive college/pro league with all the best schools to block all the rest the colleges out and get all the best recruits?

Brave new world now that "amateurisim" is out the window.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the date of this article. Change is coming either get or board or be left at the station.

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/u-s-soccer-launches-ncs-committee-to-evaluate-the-college-gam/

Where in the article does it say the ncaa is asking for this?

NCAA is in trouble now that they have to pay players. This is why US Soccer is putting together a plan. NCAA will gladly drop a non revenue sports like Soccer if it allows them to focus on Football and Basketball. The only reason to keep Soccer is the number of female players it provides for Title 9.

NCAA pays no players. At all. The schools do. The schools will not be interested in anything that moves programs out of their control. They would rather close the programs. It is a brand issue.

Not really. The top colleges will want to play 2nd tier pro teams. The bottom colleges will not want to play 2nd tier pro teams.

Exactly, and if colleges have to pay players either way wouldn't it make sense to play LOCAL high level competition to avoid transportation costs? Wouldn't it also make sense to create an exclusive college/pro league with all the best schools to block all the rest the colleges out and get all the best recruits?

Brave new world now that "amateurisim" is out the window.

Where’s your source that top college programs desperately want to play semi pro teams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

[Anonymous]

Pro Team announcer....

"Timmy Scott is on a 1on1 breakaway to goal and... Yes he/she finishes. What an amazing goal by the SY+30 Junior."

See how it doesnt work? SY just doesnt apply in pro environments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

Pro teams refer to players by current age or birth year. Its just how things work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

Pro teams refer to players by current age or birth year. Its just how things work.

Right because they a pro and not part of youth soccer.