ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

Pro teams refer to players by current age or birth year. Its just how things work.

Yea, I agree if college and lower level pro teams played each other in some kind of Soccer minor league. Then yes SY wouldn't matter. The only thing that would matter is years of eligibility. Actually i take that back age would matter because pro teams wont want to put the effort into developing a 24 year old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

Pro teams refer to players by current age or birth year. Its just how things work.

Yea, I agree if college and lower level pro teams played each other in some kind of Soccer minor league. Then yes SY wouldn't matter. The only thing that would matter is years of eligibility. Actually i take that back age would matter because pro teams wont want to put the effort into developing a 24 year old.

RAE phases out at u19. All this college minor league pro scrimmage mumbo jumbo has no bearing on youth soccer. Smells more like a BY think tank talking point instead .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does any of this have to do with the age change? Isn't there another ECNL vs. GA dick war thread on the forum?

Whatever happens with college will likely determine SY vs BY for youth clubs. If colleges dont get involved with US Soccer and pro teams SY for youth makes sense. If colleges get involved with US Socer and pro teams BY makes sense.

Now how long is your dick smart guy?

For the umpteenth time, what does college has to do with SY or BY ??? It doesn't have an age limite/cutoff.

It is 4 years of eligibility out of a 5 years window. You can have a 30 year old freshman just starting college soccer.

For the umpteenth time Pro teams are BY

What ? Pro teams has age cutoffs ??

So Messi plays under the U39 bracket?

Pro teams have 1 top level and age means nothing only performance. However they also have 2nd and sometimes 3rd tier teams and these are grouped by BY. SY doesnt make sense to pro clubs because it in now way applies.

Neither SY or BY apply in college or pros, only at the international level and those events are not frequent and only played by a very, very small subset of college or pro players. Which is why the international play argument to keep BY in youth soccer is total BS.

Pro teams refer to players by current age or birth year. Its just how things work.

Yea, I agree if college and lower level pro teams played each other in some kind of Soccer minor league. Then yes SY wouldn't matter. The only thing that would matter is years of eligibility. Actually i take that back age would matter because pro teams wont want to put the effort into developing a 24 year old.

RAE phases out at u19. All this college minor league pro scrimmage mumbo jumbo has no bearing on youth soccer. Smells more like a BY think tank talking point instead .

Don't make me tap the sign...
https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2025/06/us-soccer-launches-committee-to-provide-recommendations-for-the-future-success-of-mens-and-womens-college-soccer

[Anonymous]

You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

Ahh you are right, no ambiguity there whatsoever. It is clear what the plan is, and that it will be implemented exactly as such; and further, how this plan hinges on youth soccer needing to be BY.

Tail between my legs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

They are missing you in the committee !

And I can see the next logical step is Texas to partner up with Dallas Cowboys and UCLA with the Lakers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

If colleges partner with pro teams and do some kind of "minor league" pro and college league. Everything will stay BY. This is because conceptually SY doesnt apply to pro teams.

But even the possibility of college working with pro teams on a single league might keep BY in the mix.

This might be one of the reasons MLSN + GA haven't made any statements reguarding SY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

If colleges partner with pro teams and do some kind of "minor league" pro and college league. Everything will stay BY. This is because conceptually SY doesnt apply to pro teams.

But even the possibility of college working with pro teams on a single league might keep BY in the mix.

This might be one of the reasons MLSN + GA haven't made any statements reguarding SY.

BY/SY doesn’t matter in a pro system, there are no age cutoffs. BY/SY are just arbitrary dates picked to form age groups. The youth system could have 2/29 as the cutoff for age groups and it wouldn’t matter for the pro system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

If colleges partner with pro teams and do some kind of "minor league" pro and college league. Everything will stay BY. This is because conceptually SY doesnt apply to pro teams.

But even the possibility of college working with pro teams on a single league might keep BY in the mix.

This might be one of the reasons MLSN + GA haven't made any statements reguarding SY.

Because colleges will switch to admissions and classes on BY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

If colleges partner with pro teams and do some kind of "minor league" pro and college league. Everything will stay BY. This is because conceptually SY doesnt apply to pro teams.

But even the possibility of college working with pro teams on a single league might keep BY in the mix.

This might be one of the reasons MLSN + GA haven't made any statements reguarding SY.

Before you type, think carefully first. Have a picture of the actual scenario in your head .

In college soccer, there is only ONE team per school. There is no age grouping. Meaning a senior could be playing with a freshman in the same team, with age up to 4 or 5 years apart.

Now take a deep breath, and tell us again how does BY or SY enter the equation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re doing lot of mental gymnastics to extrapolate how this US soccer/NCAA white paper somehow argues for BY cutoffs in youth soccer. But you can relax: I’m sure your July kid will make friends on an MLSN tier 2 team next year.

Mental gymnastics? What does the first line of the US Soccer link say. Here I'll C+P it for you.

'U.S. Soccer Launches Committee to Provide Recommendations for the Future Success of Men’s and Women’s College Soccer"

And the power conferences then promptly give their middle fingers to those "recommendations"

They basically run college football and basketball, with NCAA as a token governing body, what makes you think they would give a crap to USSF ?

Or the power confences partner with pro teams first in a college/pro league so the smaller colleges dont do it first.

And how would this impact age cutoffs for youth soccer, in your opinion?

If colleges partner with pro teams and do some kind of "minor league" pro and college league. Everything will stay BY. This is because conceptually SY doesnt apply to pro teams.

But even the possibility of college working with pro teams on a single league might keep BY in the mix.

This might be one of the reasons MLSN + GA haven't made any statements reguarding SY.

Before you type, think carefully first. Have a picture of the actual scenario in your head .

In college soccer, there is only ONE team per school. There is no age grouping. Meaning a senior could be playing with a freshman in the same team, with age up to 4 or 5 years apart.

Now take a deep breath, and tell us again how does BY or SY enter the equation?

Correct, college has 1 team per school.

However pro clubs 2nd and 3rd teams are often grouped by age. This is so younger players have an easier time getting integrated with the team above them in age. Its also used as a way to push older players out.