Mt Prospect in North Potomac

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, Hamlets started at $1M, Orchards at $1.185M, & Windmills at $1.377M. That’s back in 2020 (I Googled it).

but no lot premium, and free options baked in the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The starting price for a Kalorama at Kingsley Woods is about $135K more than the starting price of a Renwick. If the Mt. Prospect Renwick starts around $1.8M, that means the Kalorama would be likely be priced under $2M. Nobody is spending anywhere near $600-800K on options. $100-250K is more like it on a nicely upgraded home.

Lot premium 100k, extra garage 20k, multigen suite 50k, expanded closets 20k, prep kitchen 20k, outdoor living 60k, 50k for potential other upgrades like lighting/structural/general stuff design options 150k (50k for kitchen, 50ish for floors, +50 for bathrooms etc), plus the basement 100k. That is kinda the lowest you will pay. That all added up is 2.5 M. Unless they take out the lot premium and give the basemnt for free with some design studio credit, then you will pay 2.2 million.

[Anonymous]

^^From what I know, this would be really out of the ordinary and likely hurt your resale abilities, given it would make you one of the most expensive homes in the neighborhood. That may not matter to you if you have strong grounds to believe this will be your forever home.

When we were at the design center (which is in Mt. Prospect), we were told hardly anyone got some of the options PP describes. Not sure why they would lie, they had an incentive to say the opposite.

We added outdoor living and a bathroom, lol. A partially finished basement was included. And, I can’t remember the exact additional incentives, but we used these in the design center to keep costs relatively low. And there are ALWAYS incentives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, Hamlets started at $1M, Orchards at $1.185M, & Windmills at $1.377M. That’s back in 2020 (I Googled it).

but no lot premium, and free options baked in the cost.

We were one of the early buyers and we had a lot premium and there were no free options... not sure, where you are getting this from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They put the windmills back on their website and they priced up. Smaller lots than phase 1 overall, and literally double the price as when phase 1 started. Expect to pay between 2.6-2.8 M for the Kalorama and 2.3+ for a renwick. Insanely high prices. People should boycott this community until the prices come down to closer to 1.8-2 million finished

Please stop posting, thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^From what I know, this would be really out of the ordinary and likely hurt your resale abilities, given it would make you one of the most expensive homes in the neighborhood. That may not matter to you if you have strong grounds to believe this will be your forever home.

When we were at the design center (which is in Mt. Prospect), we were told hardly anyone got some of the options PP describes. Not sure why they would lie, they had an incentive to say the opposite.

We added outdoor living and a bathroom, lol. A partially finished basement was included. And, I can’t remember the exact additional incentives, but we used these in the design center to keep costs relatively low. And there are ALWAYS incentives.

So then you just have a mcmansion?

[Anonymous]

What a troll. Just ignore her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, Hamlets started at $1M, Orchards at $1.185M, & Windmills at $1.377M. That’s back in 2020 (I Googled it).

but no lot premium, and free options baked in the cost.

We were one of the early buyers and we had a lot premium and there were no free options... not sure, where you are getting this from?

We bought very early too…we did pay a lot premium (50k), but our agent got us free upgrades worth 20k. No incentives at design center besides the TBI incentives

[Anonymous]

Wow! 20K at design center! nice!!!

[Anonymous]

How come the price is not listed for the Kolorama?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^From what I know, this would be really out of the ordinary and likely hurt your resale abilities, given it would make you one of the most expensive homes in the neighborhood. That may not matter to you if you have strong grounds to believe this will be your forever home.

When we were at the design center (which is in Mt. Prospect), we were told hardly anyone got some of the options PP describes. Not sure why they would lie, they had an incentive to say the opposite.

We added outdoor living and a bathroom, lol. A partially finished basement was included. And, I can’t remember the exact additional incentives, but we used these in the design center to keep costs relatively low. And there are ALWAYS incentives.

So then you just have a mcmansion?

Huh? Do you think any of these houses ISN’T a McMansion? (No hate, just genuinely not following what I think may have been an attempt at an insult? Seriously, I’m not sure.)

[Anonymous]

Cant speak for that person, but calling a home a mcmansion is not an insult, simply a statement. A mcmansion, by definition is “a slang term that describes a large, often opulent or ostentatious, mass-produced house. The name carries a somewhat critical connotation because McMansions lack architectural uniqueness, class, or style.” Houses in this community are structurally nice, but taking no upgrades will make the home a mcmansion. A big house that is pretty much just a bunch of useless space, that does not look visually appealing. The model houses are not rlly mcmansions, but as toll raises prices, most of the newer homes will start to be mcmansions since people are not taking upgrades. People really overpay for this community for some reason. Buy a home from some other builder like classic homes md, or castlewood or williamsburg homes (right near by). Bigger lots, bigger homes, more luxurious upgrades all for the same cost and probably even a better location. Also all of those are much better companies to work with than toll brothers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, Hamlets started at $1M, Orchards at $1.185M, & Windmills at $1.377M. That’s back in 2020 (I Googled it).

but no lot premium, and free options baked in the cost.

We were one of the early buyers and we had a lot premium and there were no free options... not sure, where you are getting this from?

this forum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cant speak for that person, but calling a home a mcmansion is not an insult, simply a statement. A mcmansion, by definition is “a slang term that describes a large, often opulent or ostentatious, mass-produced house. The name carries a somewhat critical connotation because McMansions lack architectural uniqueness, class, or style.” Houses in this community are structurally nice, but taking no upgrades will make the home a mcmansion. A big house that is pretty much just a bunch of useless space, that does not look visually appealing. The model houses are not rlly mcmansions, but as toll raises prices, most of the newer homes will start to be mcmansions since people are not taking upgrades. People really overpay for this community for some reason. Buy a home from some other builder like classic homes md, or castlewood or williamsburg homes (right near by). Bigger lots, bigger homes, more luxurious upgrades all for the same cost and probably even a better location. Also all of those are much better companies to work with than toll brothers.

You won’t get a new development with Classic Homes…they’re not bad at all, but you essentially will have to buy a plot of land and they will build a house. It’s rarely in a development like Mt Prospect. As for the cost, they are equivalent. We came close to signing with Classic, but the land was isolated and they didn’t offer the upgrades (like a multigen space) that we were looking for. I don’t know about Castlewood or Williamsburg though. Agree that Toll is getting too pricey though I hear they are offering good incentives, but still it’s a bit expensive for the area in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cant speak for that person, but calling a home a mcmansion is not an insult, simply a statement. A mcmansion, by definition is “a slang term that describes a large, often opulent or ostentatious, mass-produced house. The name carries a somewhat critical connotation because McMansions lack architectural uniqueness, class, or style.” Houses in this community are structurally nice, but taking no upgrades will make the home a mcmansion. A big house that is pretty much just a bunch of useless space, that does not look visually appealing. The model houses are not rlly mcmansions, but as toll raises prices, most of the newer homes will start to be mcmansions since people are not taking upgrades. People really overpay for this community for some reason. Buy a home from some other builder like classic homes md, or castlewood or williamsburg homes (right near by). Bigger lots, bigger homes, more luxurious upgrades all for the same cost and probably even a better location. Also all of those are much better companies to work with than toll brothers.

I think most would consider nearly all of Toll Brothers' SFH McMansions, due to the square footage, mix of materials, and limited, true customization. The quality also varies quite a bit.

Further, and this is where my confusion came from, upgrades don't equal class or style. And when upgrades are selected from the pre-set list from Toll Brothers, they will also smack of mass production. Most upgrades could actually contribute to the McMansion vibe.