APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

[Anonymous]

All ASFS had to do was sit back and laugh as others destroyed themselves. ASFS played the long game and won.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else catch JB’s suggestion on AEM that if Reid is committed to his “no” vote and they vote in two new SB members who are against 5e moves, they might try to undo the whole thing? Never mind that those new members wouldn’t be sworn in until January, after the new boundaries have already been approved, with less than nine months to start the whole process from scratch. That’s some serious denial of reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All ASFS had to do was sit back and laugh as others destroyed themselves. ASFS played the long game and won.

+1

But in all seriousness, ASFS is not laughing— all this angst and anxiety about what is going to happen has been going on for two years for the ASFS community. So it has been ironic to hear all these McKinley and ATS families talk about how sudden this is, etc., when really, APS has been trying to figure out a place for Key Immersion for almost 2 years now. And there is still a lot of anxiety ahead for ASFS because 90% are leaving but likely only half that leave will go to the new Key school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else catch JB’s suggestion on AEM that if Reid is committed to his “no” vote and they vote in two new SB members who are against 5e moves, they might try to undo the whole thing? Never mind that those new members wouldn’t be sworn in until January, after the new boundaries have already been approved, with less than nine months to start the whole process from scratch. That’s some serious denial of reality.

And all the K orientation books for 2021 will have already been printed . . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

My favorite comment was the poster who wanted to be grandfathered in at the Key building. So you clearly don’t live near Key (since you can’t stay as a neighborhood student) but went to Key (presumably for immersion), but don’t want to move with immersion . . . or go back to your neighborhood school? So you really just went to Key for the location? As in, it must be close to your job or commute. That’s the real motivation behind a lot of the Key no-move folks, including the one who is trying to rile up ASFS on AEM. Even though ATS is equal distant or closer than Key, it’s in the wrong direction from their commute for Extended Day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

My favorite comment was the poster who wanted to be grandfathered in at the Key building. So you clearly don’t live near Key (since you can’t stay as a neighborhood student) but went to Key (presumably for immersion), but don’t want to move with immersion . . . or go back to your neighborhood school? So you really just went to Key for the location? As in, it must be close to your job or commute. That’s the real motivation behind a lot of the Key no-move folks, including the one who is trying to rile up ASFS on AEM. Even though ATS is equal distant or closer than Key, it’s in the wrong direction from their commute for Extended Day.

I think they meant staying with their cohort in redrawing they catchment zones for Claremont and FKA Key. I hope. I agree the whole fight was actually about commute - a rich people temper tantrum with a thin veneer of social justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

My favorite comment was the poster who wanted to be grandfathered in at the Key building. So you clearly don’t live near Key (since you can’t stay as a neighborhood student) but went to Key (presumably for immersion), but don’t want to move with immersion . . . or go back to your neighborhood school? So you really just went to Key for the location? As in, it must be close to your job or commute. That’s the real motivation behind a lot of the Key no-move folks, including the one who is trying to rile up ASFS on AEM. Even though ATS is equal distant or closer than Key, it’s in the wrong direction from their commute for Extended Day.

I think they meant staying with their cohort in redrawing they catchment zones for Claremont and FKA Key. I hope. I agree the whole fight was actually about commute - a rich people temper tantrum with a thin veneer of social justice.

Don’t tone police me! ??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

My favorite comment was the poster who wanted to be grandfathered in at the Key building. So you clearly don’t live near Key (since you can’t stay as a neighborhood student) but went to Key (presumably for immersion), but don’t want to move with immersion . . . or go back to your neighborhood school? So you really just went to Key for the location? As in, it must be close to your job or commute. That’s the real motivation behind a lot of the Key no-move folks, including the one who is trying to rile up ASFS on AEM. Even though ATS is equal distant or closer than Key, it’s in the wrong direction from their commute for Extended Day.

I think they meant staying with their cohort in redrawing they catchment zones for Claremont and FKA Key. I hope. I agree the whole fight was actually about commute - a rich people temper tantrum with a thin veneer of social justice.

Don’t tone police me! ??

Those question marks were supposed to be laughing faces. Want to make sure my sarcasm was clear.

[Anonymous]

Oh - and I like how they tried to shut down the dad who supported the move because his kids were too young.

I can’t believe how nasty they have been. It’s quite disappointing to see adults treat each other like that over something relatively benign (in the end all kids will go to a great APS school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the record reflect that Key went down swinging. Fought the good fight.

But was that really wise? They could have accepted the swap and gotten a comparably sized building that was close enough that most of their current Spanish speakers would have stayed. Now they are spreading all these rumors trying to rile up asfs parents, saying that aps won’t say if the administration is going to move to key with the students. I can answer that one for you— no way will mb touch keys building with a ten ft pole, she will retire first. But why spread the rumor? So bizarre!

Total rumors. Monique O’Grady went to ASFS last week and described the process by which the new Key principal will be hired and how s/he will interview and put together their administration and staff at the new neighborhood school at Key. Anyone— current employees and non-employees — will have to apply for the positions available and they will (or will not) be hired by the new principal, who should be selected by July 1. As far as excess teachers at a school (like ASFS, which will have too many teachers once the boundaries are adjusted), the teachers hired most recently will be displaced first but APS will try to relocate them. MB announced she is not leaving ASFS. The poster on AEM who is trying to rile everyone up is just sour grapes.

Definitely sour grapes. She was probably cranky after someone pointed out that her maps were NOT better than the proposal 1 map. Her maps actually JUSTIFY the move.

And omg - the racism and tone-policing accusations are getting ridiculous and outright hostile. Exactly what Maura was trying to describe. Too bad her comments fell on deaf ears.

My favorite comment was the poster who wanted to be grandfathered in at the Key building. So you clearly don’t live near Key (since you can’t stay as a neighborhood student) but went to Key (presumably for immersion), but don’t want to move with immersion . . . or go back to your neighborhood school? So you really just went to Key for the location? As in, it must be close to your job or commute. That’s the real motivation behind a lot of the Key no-move folks, including the one who is trying to rile up ASFS on AEM. Even though ATS is equal distant or closer than Key, it’s in the wrong direction from their commute for Extended Day.

I think they meant staying with their cohort in redrawing they catchment zones for Claremont and FKA Key. I hope. I agree the whole fight was actually about commute - a rich people temper tantrum with a thin veneer of social justice.

You are correct, pp misunderstood that poster. They were talking about how the new boundaries would affect whether families were assigned to Key or Claremont, and whether families might have to change schools if their zoned neighborhood school changed, or if they reassign which neighborhood elementary schools feed to Key and which to Claremont (since the ATS site sits in the Claremont zone).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh - and I like how they tried to shut down the dad who supported the move because his kids were too young.

I can’t believe how nasty they have been. It’s quite disappointing to see adults treat each other like that over something relatively benign (in the end all kids will go to a great APS school).

McKrazy even made an appearance to give him a beat down. Apparently she’s sick of seeing him on NextDoor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh - and I like how they tried to shut down the dad who supported the move because his kids were too young.

I can’t believe how nasty they have been. It’s quite disappointing to see adults treat each other like that over something relatively benign (in the end all kids will go to a great APS school).

McKrazy even made an appearance to give him a beat down. Apparently she’s sick of seeing him on NextDoor

What - where did this all take place?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh - and I like how they tried to shut down the dad who supported the move because his kids were too young.

I can’t believe how nasty they have been. It’s quite disappointing to see adults treat each other like that over something relatively benign (in the end all kids will go to a great APS school).

McKrazy even made an appearance to give him a beat down. Apparently she’s sick of seeing him on NextDoor

What - where did this all take place?

One of the AEM threads from during the hearing on Thursday. Most comments were from Thursday night and Friday, but one has spawned an active sub thread in the last day.

I am one of the people who approached Maura to thank her for speaking up. I also told her to run for school board again!