Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Another comment on another board asked if this was a birthday dinner for Nancy as her birthday was 1/27. If it was a birthday dinner, how interesting that none of her friends attended or other family members.


That’s not awfully interesting. 84 is a great age, but not a “milestone” birthday. A dinner at my house is exactly how I expect my own parents would hope to celebrate.


It’s interesting in that if it was planned as a celebration, given her recent birthday, that there were no other guests or witnesses to the dinner. Did she actually make it to the dinner? Was there a dinner?

The uber driver may have picked up a woman, but was it the mother?


Do you have local family? I think people who don't think get togethers need to be huge/momentous. We have annual birthday celebrations with my local MIL where no friends are invited! Not everything has to be a huge party. We just had one last week where we went do dinner then came back for cake. She had lunch separately with her friends. Not "interesting" at all- you are really trying to twist this into something nefarious.


Often elderly folks prefer small gatherings. When my grandma turned 90 we did a big extended family gathering. It wiped her out for the next month-lots of sleeping and exhaustion from too much excitement. She preferred brief visits with just a few people at a time.



This has nothing to do with elder preferences but establishing a scenario and supporting alibi.

If the police have no one to ask, you can’t possibly be found guilty.

If it’s just the three of you, and you’re living ten minutes away from each other, why is there a need for an Uber? Presumably time is flexible if others are not invited and if you had something to do, you could swing by and pick mom up right after or even have her ride along while you ran your errand.

The food would still be hot if you leave and grab her after you’re finished cooking.

If your kid needed to be dropped off at a sleepover or other event, same thing, logistics can be arranged that include stopping to pick her up.

But if you need to have someone else see her being brought to your home, to prove she was at a dinner with you, then you need the Uber.

There’s very few reasons to require an 84yo to Uber to your home for dinner.



It's not unusual for older people to take ubers in situations like this to go to someone's house, even when they are offered rides. My elderly great aunt was always telling me "I'll hop in a cab!" or "I'll just hop in an uber!" (after she learned to use it) when I invited her over, even if I offered a ride.

It was harder for her to refuse the ride back home because I was right there insisting in person with the keys in my hand.


For a ten minute car ride?


Yes. Because it's multiple times a week and twenty minutes round trip.


Also, it's stressful. You assist the person in and out and are always afraid of a fall which too often can be a hip fracture which sets off decline. I think you can get special ubers with people who are trained to assist. I don't think people understand what it is to be the family member closeby when aging lasts decades. They appreciate the one who comes in every few months or once a year, and over the years they can go from giving you the occasional thank you to treating you like a free servant. Also, when you are the one to start expressing concerns to mom and suggesting the subscription for Ring camera, and more help in the house and you gently suggest touring AL things can really escalate. Not saying they escalate to murder at all, but I think people don't understand it's easy to give rides now and then, but they likely did endless things to help the mom and sometimes to prevent burnout you realize it's time for Uber and various professionals. It's not just 10 minutes. It's the time it takes to wait for her (my mother was never ready when you picked her up), help her get in, listen to her fuss if she doesn't like how you help her and then get your composure to drive and then be ready to assist her out of the vehicle hoping she is OK and you don't accidentally bump something.
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Image of potential person at Nancy’s door. The broke into the Olympic coverage.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone in the Find Nancy Guthrie Facebook group says they contacted the FBI about a neighbor’s adult son with a lengthy criminal history, including assault and kidnapping-related offenses, who reportedly lives a few doors from Nancy Guthrie’s home, urging investigators to look into him.


I said this in the first few pages.

I said it’s gonna be a failure to launch kid who’s living with their parents. Someone who has a special-needs child freaked out because they don’t understand that that’s not failure to lunch.

It’s gonna be the son of one of the neighbors who has a criminal history who’s living with them.


I do hope you'll come back often and crow about how you solved it in the first few minutes. This is not a competition.

I'm certain LE has considered every person despite not having you directly on the case, Cagney.


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Ugh. Those photos are awful. This whole thing was clearly premeditated but the person is so covered up that I'm not sure the images will be useful.

What a nightmare scenario.

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So if it was a failure to launch/special needs neighbor with a criminal record, who sent the very grammatically correct ransom note? A random person looking to get quick money with no tie to the case?
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Anonymous wrote:So if it was a failure to launch/special needs neighbor with a criminal record, who sent the very grammatically correct ransom note? A random person looking to get quick money with no tie to the case?


Failure to launch is not the same as special needs. Stop conflating them.
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Ok...that last picture in the mask. Doesn't it look like the guy has a dark mustache?
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Anonymous wrote:Ok...that last picture in the mask. Doesn't it look like the guy has a dark mustache?


Someone has got to recognize the clothes, way he carries himself, etc
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The photo gives me some hope. Isn't there special software where they can take the eyes, and mouth and whatever part of the face is showing and match it up to faces of people online, driver's license photos, etc?
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So creepy
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Whomever it is, perhaps they have a close family member or friend who recognizes those things and will turn them in, like with Charlie Kirk's killer.

I know they didn't release the ransom notes, but wasn't the Unabomber caught because his writing style was actually recognized by the brother?
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Per FBI, they had to work with many partners to recover the pictures.

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Could’ve used chat GPT to write the ransom note.
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Why do we think it took them so long to be able to access these photos? I understand the person tampered with the cameras etc.

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