FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


If 230 kids are transferring out of Lewis currently, you will have 500 kids transferring out of Lewis following rezoning.

Almost all of the kids in the fringe neighborhoods take German...
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


SCHS doesn't need a whole feeder. Lewis does. However, adding some of the kids by South Run Rec to Newington Forest and removing them from Sangster isn't a bad idea to shorten commutes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


If 230 kids are transferring out of Lewis currently, you will have 500 kids transferring out of Lewis following rezoning.

Almost all of the kids in the fringe neighborhoods take German...


And what makes you think they won't add German to Lewis? Or go Nuclear and remove it from WSHS, lol.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, those erratic Maryland drivers are on their way to drop their kids off at FCPS schools because FCPS doesn’t check addresses after the initial intake.


Yep.

And families from many other high schools using false addresses to attend WSHS.

FCPS needs to preclude a boundary study with a residdncy check.


I know of someone who was renting and then was contacted by the school because the landlord was using the rental address for either their kids or grandkids to attend a WSHS feeder elementary. Not sure how that situation ended up getting resolved.


We have a neighbor who bought a house 30 minutes away, and used a relatives address for all of middle school and high school, even after the relative sold the house to a family with kids in one of the main pyramids talked about here.

Somehow, no one at FCPS noticed there were 2 families with kids using the same address.

FCPS must do a residency check before rezoning WSHS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to Lewis is twice as long as Gambrill to WSHS.

Those Gambrill kids don't use Rolling Road.

They cut through the neighborhoods along Sydenstriker and go Huntsman to Hillside.

It is a 10-15 minute commute with traffic.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


SCHS doesn't need a whole feeder. Lewis does. However, adding some of the kids by South Run Rec to Newington Forest and removing them from Sangster isn't a bad idea to shorten commutes.


South County is currently at 88% and Lewis is at 86%. Given those numbers, why would Lewis need a whole new feeder school, as opposed to moving the neighborhoods along Gambrill to Newington Forest/SCHS vs Lewis? If the concern is overcrowding at WSHS? SC makes sense for the Gambrill neighborhoods, but Lewis is very disconnected.
Anonymous
I understand Lewis is under capacity, but are we saying a high school of 1700 kids can't have good course options and extracurriculars? My high school of 900 sure had all of that. Adding a few hundred West Springfield kids isn't going to significantly change anything.

If they need to relieve overcrowding at WSHS, they should consider what actually makes most sense between LBSS, South County, and Lewis. The priority should not be "saving" Lewis. There are other, more meaningful, ways to do that. I don't see why underenrollment is an issue. In fact, I think most people around here like the idea of a school with 1700 kids vs 3000.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


If 230 kids are transferring out of Lewis currently, you will have 500 kids transferring out of Lewis following rezoning.

Almost all of the kids in the fringe neighborhoods take German...


And what makes you think they won't add German to Lewis? Or go Nuclear and remove it from WSHS, lol.


It is sad because what the board is really doing isn’t “fixing” Lewis. It is fixing test scores at Lewis. That is it. Is FCPS only responsible for test scores or does a community owe its children more? To truly “fix” Lewis for the kids who are going there, you need holistic social support. That doesn’t mean holistic boundaries, but looking at what the population there needs. They aren’t as concerned with test scores I would bet. They need strong social supports: health care, English skills, academic skills, food shelter etc. The solution lies more with Geoffrey Canada’s Harlem Children’s Zone project than redistricting. Trade skills would also probably benefit. So, dear Gatehouse person, if you want to FIX Lewis and become an urban setting, let’s do it right.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


From Gambrill and the Parkway:

4.4 miles to Lewis
3.6 - 4.1 miles to West Springfield.

Distance is not the case you want to try to make.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


True.

Lewis is the longest commute of the 4 schools.

WSHS is the fastest.

SoCo is a little longer.

Lewis is the longest by a lot, and involves crossing the worst rush hour traffic spot in that part of northern Virginia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


True.

Lewis is the longest commute of the 4 schools.

WSHS is the fastest.

SoCo is a little longer.

Lewis is the longest by a lot, and involves crossing the worst rush hour traffic spot in that part of northern Virginia.


Nope. When they shifted the boundary decades ago it wasn’t about commute. It isn’t a long commute. You defenders need to stop using that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


From Gambrill and the Parkway:

4.4 miles to Lewis
3.6 - 4.1 miles to West Springfield.

Distance is not the case you want to try to make.


It's also the type of roads. If we are looking at Lewis vs. SCHS for the neighborhoods along Gambrill, you are taking about a shorter commute on neighborhood streets to SCHS, which will make it feel more like a community school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


If 230 kids are transferring out of Lewis currently, you will have 500 kids transferring out of Lewis following rezoning.

Almost all of the kids in the fringe neighborhoods take German...


And what makes you think they won't add German to Lewis? Or go Nuclear and remove it from WSHS, lol.


It is sad because what the board is really doing isn’t “fixing” Lewis. It is fixing test scores at Lewis. That is it. Is FCPS only responsible for test scores or does a community owe its children more? To truly “fix” Lewis for the kids who are going there, you need holistic social support. That doesn’t mean holistic boundaries, but looking at what the population there needs. They aren’t as concerned with test scores I would bet. They need strong social supports: health care, English skills, academic skills, food shelter etc. The solution lies more with Geoffrey Canada’s Harlem Children’s Zone project than redistricting. Trade skills would also probably benefit. So, dear Gatehouse person, if you want to FIX Lewis and become an urban setting, let’s do it right.


I totaly agree with this.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


True.

Lewis is the longest commute of the 4 schools.

WSHS is the fastest.

SoCo is a little longer.

Lewis is the longest by a lot, and involves crossing the worst rush hour traffic spot in that part of northern Virginia.


Nope. When they shifted the boundary decades ago it wasn’t about commute. It isn’t a long commute. You defenders need to stop using that.


You aren't from the area.

Gambril to Lewis is at least twice as long a drive than Gambril to WSHS or Gambrill to SoCo.

That is a fact.

During rush hour, the drive is 3x as long.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.


True.

Lewis is the longest commute of the 4 schools.

WSHS is the fastest.

SoCo is a little longer.

Lewis is the longest by a lot, and involves crossing the worst rush hour traffic spot in that part of northern Virginia.


This is simply not the case. Check Google maps. Yes, probably a little longer to Lewis, but many children in FCPS have much longer trips. Fringe Great Falls, parts of Mason Neck, Lake Braddock, Robinson. Some small difference in distance or time is not going to sway the board.

That being said, there are some conflicting goals in their policies - split feeders being the biggest one. Hard to see them sending all of Hunt Valley to Lewis and it doesn't make sense to send the South Hunt Valley children to Saratoga Elementary to solve the split that way. So if they send South Hunt Valley to Lewis that will bring back an old split feeder.
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