FCPS HS Boundary

Anonymous
What else will the Board do to support Lewis aside from importing WS kids? How will simply adding bodies (not all white or rich, I must add) help Lewis? How will that enrich opportunities for Lewis students?
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Anonymous wrote:Can the puss off enough NoVa residents enough to make Virginia go red in November?


Doubt it. The boundary changes will be limited to specific areas and only impact a small segment of the student population. Those parents will undoubtedly be pissed so lots of barking but no real bite.


They plan to redistrict every five years. As much as you pretend that it’ll just be a handful of residents impacted, it’s the thousands of residents that will be impacted and the ongoing and unnecessary risk of redistricting that will put the democrats at risk.

Minimize the risk at your agenda’s peril.



Review or redistrict? A review of boundaries to address capacity issues, etc. every few years seems appropriate and responsible.

We are in the phase of becoming an urban center where 50% of the kids are poor. Time to just accept that and look at it like living in the city. Go private or move further out if you must, but the FCPS of the 90s-00s is a distant memory.

And as an urban center, we need to be efficient with our resources.



Too bad to see Fairfax County schools turn into this


Fairfax blue voters have supported this at the local, state, and federal level for thirty years. Chickens are coming home to roost. While some will say take this to the political forum, that would deny the connection between how people vote and the impact on schools.


And some people want a dictatorship and support tyranny by taking over women’s bodies and overthrowing democracy.
If those are my choices give me boundary changes.
At the local level I don’t want vouchers and think there are many solutions other than the one the board is chasing.


Funny because if it is the choice you lay out, seems like boundary changes would have much more of an impact on my family. I’m a supporter of moderate democratic positions, but the board and local party are dangerously over their skis here.


Well you must be a man with boys. As a woman who faced a miscarriage with complications with my third pregnancy, I would have been floundering for care in Texas. Being alive for my kids is more important.

Let’s get back to FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


Transportation has already been stated as a priority and moving any of the WSHS neighborhoods to Lewis will 1) create another split feeder which they have already stated they want to reduce or eliminate, 2) if they also move neighborhoods to Saratoga for ES (I’m assuming), it would create a longer bus ride for those kids, 3) if they did a nuclear option and moved all of Hunt Valley ES to the Lewis pyramid, that still doesn’t help the capacity situation at the other WSHS feeders, especially Orange Hunt which is a mess right now.

Springfield and Alexandria are going to get more development - there are some old buildings around the mall and Springfield Plaza slated for demolition, there is talk of selling off the Best Buy shopping center and replacing it with apartments or condos, the Franconia government center is moving near Kingstowne so its current site is up for redevelopment, as is the old Top Golf site in Kingstowne. So there is development coming that could increase enrollment at both Lewis and Edison - not that Edison needs it, that is a small physical site that’s always just about at capacity - that will probably need adjustments between the two schools within about 5 years.


They can move a feeder to Key and Lewis, and there would be no split feeder.

Reducing the disparity in enrollments and opportunities between West Springfield and Lewis ought to be their top priority. Any other boundary changes at this point would be unnecessary and primarily designed to serve as a distraction.
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Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


Transportation has already been stated as a priority and moving any of the WSHS neighborhoods to Lewis will 1) create another split feeder which they have already stated they want to reduce or eliminate, 2) if they also move neighborhoods to Saratoga for ES (I’m assuming), it would create a longer bus ride for those kids, 3) if they did a nuclear option and moved all of Hunt Valley ES to the Lewis pyramid, that still doesn’t help the capacity situation at the other WSHS feeders, especially Orange Hunt which is a mess right now.

Springfield and Alexandria are going to get more development - there are some old buildings around the mall and Springfield Plaza slated for demolition, there is talk of selling off the Best Buy shopping center and replacing it with apartments or condos, the Franconia government center is moving near Kingstowne so its current site is up for redevelopment, as is the old Top Golf site in Kingstowne. So there is development coming that could increase enrollment at both Lewis and Edison - not that Edison needs it, that is a small physical site that’s always just about at capacity - that will probably need adjustments between the two schools within about 5 years.


They can move a feeder to Key and Lewis, and there would be no split feeder.

Reducing the disparity in enrollments and opportunities between West Springfield and Lewis ought to be their top priority. Any other boundary changes at this point would be unnecessary and primarily designed to serve as a distraction.


HA- you must live near Langley or another school that is up for redistributing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Even worse, those erratic Maryland drivers are on their way to drop their kids off at FCPS schools because FCPS doesn’t check addresses after the initial intake.


Yep.

And families from many other high schools using false addresses to attend WSHS.

FCPS needs to preclude a boundary study with a residdncy check.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


Transportation has already been stated as a priority and moving any of the WSHS neighborhoods to Lewis will 1) create another split feeder which they have already stated they want to reduce or eliminate, 2) if they also move neighborhoods to Saratoga for ES (I’m assuming), it would create a longer bus ride for those kids, 3) if they did a nuclear option and moved all of Hunt Valley ES to the Lewis pyramid, that still doesn’t help the capacity situation at the other WSHS feeders, especially Orange Hunt which is a mess right now. 1&2)no split feeder, those kids go to Saratoga and Saratoga goes to Lewis, 3) Orange Hunt kids shift to Hunt Valley.

Springfield and Alexandria are going to get more development - there are some old buildings around the mall and Springfield Plaza slated for demolition, there is talk of selling off the Best Buy shopping center and replacing it with apartments or condos, the Franconia government center is moving near Kingstowne so its current site is up for redevelopment, as is the old Top Golf site in Kingstowne. So there is development coming that could increase enrollment at both Lewis and Edison - not that Edison needs it, that is a small physical site that’s always just about at capacity - that will probably need adjustments between the two schools within about 5 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What else will the Board do to support Lewis aside from importing WS kids? How will simply adding bodies (not all white or rich, I must add) help Lewis? How will that enrich opportunities for Lewis students?


Accelerating the replacement of IB with AP; strengthening other electives; assigning top administrators to Lewis; and ensuring the facility is in an updated renovation queue for eventual improvements.

If that means some students have a longer commute, so be it; they will still have a shorter commute than a lot of kids commuting to Robinson, Lake Braddock, Oakton, and Langley.
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Anonymous wrote:Can the puss off enough NoVa residents enough to make Virginia go red in November?


Doubt it. The boundary changes will be limited to specific areas and only impact a small segment of the student population. Those parents will undoubtedly be pissed so lots of barking but no real bite.


They plan to redistrict every five years. As much as you pretend that it’ll just be a handful of residents impacted, it’s the thousands of residents that will be impacted and the ongoing and unnecessary risk of redistricting that will put the democrats at risk.

Minimize the risk at your agenda’s peril.



Review or redistrict? A review of boundaries to address capacity issues, etc. every few years seems appropriate and responsible.

We are in the phase of becoming an urban center where 50% of the kids are poor. Time to just accept that and look at it like living in the city. Go private or move further out if you must, but the FCPS of the 90s-00s is a distant memory.

And as an urban center, we need to be efficient with our resources.



Too bad to see Fairfax County schools turn into this


Fairfax blue voters have supported this at the local, state, and federal level for thirty years. Chickens are coming home to roost. While some will say take this to the political forum, that would deny the connection between how people vote and the impact on schools.


And some people want a dictatorship and support tyranny by taking over women’s bodies and overthrowing democracy.
If those are my choices give me boundary changes.
At the local level I don’t want vouchers and think there are many solutions other than the one the board is chasing.


The school board has zero to do with abortion.

Idiots who cannot tell the difference are the ones who brought us this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.


Ensuring that Lewis has a sufficiently large enrollment to support the activities and opportunities available at other high schools ought to be the only boundary change FCPS is currently treating as a priority. Everything else is just noise intended to cancel out the parents who’ll complain if moved to Lewis.


Transportation has already been stated as a priority and moving any of the WSHS neighborhoods to Lewis will 1) create another split feeder which they have already stated they want to reduce or eliminate, 2) if they also move neighborhoods to Saratoga for ES (I’m assuming), it would create a longer bus ride for those kids, 3) if they did a nuclear option and moved all of Hunt Valley ES to the Lewis pyramid, that still doesn’t help the capacity situation at the other WSHS feeders, especially Orange Hunt which is a mess right now.

Springfield and Alexandria are going to get more development - there are some old buildings around the mall and Springfield Plaza slated for demolition, there is talk of selling off the Best Buy shopping center and replacing it with apartments or condos, the Franconia government center is moving near Kingstowne so its current site is up for redevelopment, as is the old Top Golf site in Kingstowne. So there is development coming that could increase enrollment at both Lewis and Edison - not that Edison needs it, that is a small physical site that’s always just about at capacity - that will probably need adjustments between the two schools within about 5 years.


They can move a feeder to Key and Lewis, and there would be no split feeder.

Reducing the disparity in enrollments and opportunities between West Springfield and Lewis ought to be their top priority. Any other boundary changes at this point would be unnecessary and primarily designed to serve as a distraction.


This is why moving all of Hunt Valley would be an option. Gives Key and Lewis a whole elementary feeder.

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, those erratic Maryland drivers are on their way to drop their kids off at FCPS schools because FCPS doesn’t check addresses after the initial intake.


Yep.

And families from many other high schools using false addresses to attend WSHS.

FCPS needs to preclude a boundary study with a residdncy check.


I know of someone who was renting and then was contacted by the school because the landlord was using the rental address for either their kids or grandkids to attend a WSHS feeder elementary. Not sure how that situation ended up getting resolved.
Anonymous
Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


Eliminating the Sangster split feeder completely removes the need to rezone WSHS, completely eliminating the capacity issue there without a major rezoning, in the least controversial and complicated way possible.

Then deal with Lewis separately, in a way that does not involve boundary adjustments.
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Anonymous wrote:Can the puss off enough NoVa residents enough to make Virginia go red in November?


Doubt it. The boundary changes will be limited to specific areas and only impact a small segment of the student population. Those parents will undoubtedly be pissed so lots of barking but no real bite.


They plan to redistrict every five years. As much as you pretend that it’ll just be a handful of residents impacted, it’s the thousands of residents that will be impacted and the ongoing and unnecessary risk of redistricting that will put the democrats at risk.

Minimize the risk at your agenda’s peril.



Review or redistrict? A review of boundaries to address capacity issues, etc. every few years seems appropriate and responsible.

We are in the phase of becoming an urban center where 50% of the kids are poor. Time to just accept that and look at it like living in the city. Go private or move further out if you must, but the FCPS of the 90s-00s is a distant memory.

And as an urban center, we need to be efficient with our resources.



Too bad to see Fairfax County schools turn into this


Fairfax blue voters have supported this at the local, state, and federal level for thirty years. Chickens are coming home to roost. While some will say take this to the political forum, that would deny the connection between how people vote and the impact on schools.


And some people want a dictatorship and support tyranny by taking over women’s bodies and overthrowing democracy.
If those are my choices give me boundary changes.
At the local level I don’t want vouchers and think there are many solutions other than the one the board is chasing.


Funny because if it is the choice you lay out, seems like boundary changes would have much more of an impact on my family. I’m a supporter of moderate democratic positions, but the board and local party are dangerously over their skis here.


Well you must be a man with boys. As a woman who faced a miscarriage with complications with my third pregnancy, I would have been floundering for care in Texas. Being alive for my kids is more important.

Let’s get back to FCPS.


Let me be clear, I support choice and am sorry to hear about your loss. I have always steadfastly supported moderate democratic positions.

That said, if the board redistricts, it at the very least takes hundreds of thousands of dollars off my property and impacts my neighbors and kids immensely (though not my kids directly). How can I support that?

I’m sounding the alarm here not because I want the Rs in power, but I think this is going to give them an immense opening with little actually benefit to show for it.

So I guess what I’m saying if they want or need my vote and those of thousands of other democratic party members in the county that they are about to screw over, they really need to rethink their plans. Maybe the Democratic Party doesn’t care about my money or vote though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gambrill to Lewis is not a long commute. Gambrill to WSHS is very similar. They are both still shorter than many kids in FCPS.


Gambrill to SCHS is about 3 miles, whereas to Lewis, it is about 6 miles. SCHS is currently under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Hunt Valley Parents south of FFX county parkway: As a result of updating policy 8130 to prioritize transportation and reduce travel times, your children will now travel a longer, more dangerous route to Key Middle and Lewis HS. The SB promises this boundary change will provide improved transportation and a better educational experience for all.
P.S. Please ensure you teach your high schoolers defensive driving maneuvers to avoid erratic Maryland drivers making last second changes out of the FFX County Parkway/Gambrill exit only lane.


+1 as a resident of this area, oh but it’s “ToO CoMpLiCaTeD” according to an equity troll who clearly has no idea about the area, to eliminate the Sangster split feeder and send all its kids to Lake Braddock, thus reducing enrollment at Irving and WSHS.


Sorry, maybe I missed it in your weird post but, how exactly does this help Lewis? This might help balance once side of the equation but not the other, and both are needed, ASAP.


It doesn’t and I’m not understanding why everything has to be to “help Lewis.” You can fix some of the (actually fairly slight) crowding at WSHS without shuttling kids down the parkway and actually giving them a longer school commute.



Because Lewis is apart of FCPS and whether you like it or not, our tax dollars are intended to support ALL schools, not just the ones you personally care about.


Lewis needs a fix that does not involve rezoning.
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