War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the deal regarding the blockade- Iran won’t even agree to peace talks until it’s removed. So I’m wondering if Trump is slowly backing it off without telling us so he can save face?

That makes sense because a blockade is an act of war which shouldn’t be in place during a ceasefire which is an attempt at peace. You don’t have to go to the War College to know this.

That's exactly why JFK carefully chose the word "quarantine" to describe the blockade of Cuba in '62. Trump is too stupid to understand that words have actual meaning.

Not really

1. The title card said "blockade" .

2. That blockade / quarantine was only for "offensive weapons"

3. "Resolution endorsed by Congress"

Title from a news clip? That's not what JFK said. And do you think this was a direct comparison between the two events? That Trump is JFK, the Soviets are Iran, and Cuba is Kharg Island? It was merely saying that calling something a quarantine is not the same as declaring war on another country, which apparently you don't even understand. Go back and read the two sentences you replied to and project a little more.

From State.gov
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1961-1968/cuban-missile-crisis
The President decided upon a middle course. On October 22, he ordered a naval “quarantine” of Cuba. The use of “quarantine” legally distinguished this action from a blockade, which assumed a state of war existed; the use of “quarantine” instead of “blockade” also enabled the United States to receive the support of the Organization of American States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A reminder that Obama negotiated a perfectly good deal that blocked Iran's ability to enrich uranium to weapons grade. With inspections and everything. And that the Strait of Hormuz was free to all shipping two months ago.

This has to to be the stupidest war the US has ever chosen.

Yeah,
But now they will tell you numbers of destroyed items as success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran has now upped the ante and is attacking ships in the strait of Hormuz. Very problematic, because they are not military but civilian sailors. Iran says they will not agree to a ceasefire until USA removes the blockade.

1. The head of the UN maritime agency has appealed for help for thousands of seafarers stranded in the Gulf by the effective closure of the strait of Hormuz.

About 20,000 seafarers and 2,000 ships have been stranded since US-Israeli strikes on Iran on 28 February, according to the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

The agency said at least 10 seafarers have been killed and several more severely injured in attacks on commercial vessels since the start of the war.

IMO’s secretary general, Arsenio Dominguez, said the agency is working on an evacuation plan for the stranded ships but that it can only be put into action when there are clear signs of de-escalation.

2. Here is a summary of the attacks reported in the strait of Hormuz and the statement by the IRGC of the seizure of two of the ships.

The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it received a report of a container ship coming under fire off the coast of Oman by a gun boat linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Greece’s Kathimerini newspaper reported that the ship was identified as the Liberia-flagged Epaminondas, owned by Greece’s Technomar Shipping and operated by MSC.
The UKMTO said it received a second report of a ship coming under attack in the strait of Hormuz, near the coast of Iran. It did not say who launched the attack against the cargo ship, which had stopped in the water. Iranian reports suggest the vessel was called Euphoria.
The maritime intelligence company Vanguard told the BBC that a third ship was attacked in the strait of Hormuz, identifying it as the Panama-flagged MSC Francesca.

These are innocent seafarers. While it is Iran attacking, USA now has a responsibility to address this in order to protect these people.

Did you forget what the US has done? The US navy blow up at least 54 civilian boats in the Caribbean and Pacific. They fired on an unarmed cargo ship in the Persian Gulf disabling it. No word on what happened to the crew of that ship. These are all acts of war and war crimes against civilians sailors.

The US is the bad actor and everyone of the seafarers trap in the Persian Gulf fear for their lives when they see a US navy vessel. It is time you admit the US is lawless and a rogue nation.

My god, you are an idiot. IRAN is a terrorist nation, doing what terrorists do - holding the entire world hostage and firing on innocent ships/sailors. There is no reasoning with terrorists.
DP

[Anonymous]

Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of the Iranian parliament and lead negotiator, said that reopening the strait of Hormuz would be “impossible” while the US and Israel committed “flagrant” breaches of the ceasefire, including the US naval blockade, “the hostage-taking of the world’s economy” and “Zionist warmongering”. He added in a post on X that the US and Israel “did not achieve their goals through military aggression, nor will they through bullying”.

[Anonymous]

Would you trust Donald Trump with anything?

The Iranian regime is dealing with the same thing. There is no trust. Which is not unreasonable when dealing with Trump/Kushner/Witkoff/Vance.

They are all snakes. Not an honest broker among them. And meanwhile, the US has another carrier group steaming to the region.

No one trusts America today. Which is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran has now upped the ante and is attacking ships in the strait of Hormuz. Very problematic, because they are not military but civilian sailors. Iran says they will not agree to a ceasefire until USA removes the blockade.

1. The head of the UN maritime agency has appealed for help for thousands of seafarers stranded in the Gulf by the effective closure of the strait of Hormuz.

About 20,000 seafarers and 2,000 ships have been stranded since US-Israeli strikes on Iran on 28 February, according to the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

The agency said at least 10 seafarers have been killed and several more severely injured in attacks on commercial vessels since the start of the war.

IMO’s secretary general, Arsenio Dominguez, said the agency is working on an evacuation plan for the stranded ships but that it can only be put into action when there are clear signs of de-escalation.

2. Here is a summary of the attacks reported in the strait of Hormuz and the statement by the IRGC of the seizure of two of the ships.

The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it received a report of a container ship coming under fire off the coast of Oman by a gun boat linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Greece’s Kathimerini newspaper reported that the ship was identified as the Liberia-flagged Epaminondas, owned by Greece’s Technomar Shipping and operated by MSC.
The UKMTO said it received a second report of a ship coming under attack in the strait of Hormuz, near the coast of Iran. It did not say who launched the attack against the cargo ship, which had stopped in the water. Iranian reports suggest the vessel was called Euphoria.
The maritime intelligence company Vanguard told the BBC that a third ship was attacked in the strait of Hormuz, identifying it as the Panama-flagged MSC Francesca.

These are innocent seafarers. While it is Iran attacking, USA now has a responsibility to address this in order to protect these people.

Did you forget what the US has done? The US navy blow up at least 54 civilian boats in the Caribbean and Pacific. They fired on an unarmed cargo ship in the Persian Gulf disabling it. No word on what happened to the crew of that ship. These are all acts of war and war crimes against civilians sailors.

The US is the bad actor and everyone of the seafarers trap in the Persian Gulf fear for their lives when they see a US navy vessel. It is time you admit the US is lawless and a rogue nation.

My god, you are an idiot. IRAN is a terrorist nation, doing what terrorists do - holding the entire world hostage and firing on innocent ships/sailors. There is no reasoning with terrorists.
DP

If there’s no reasoning with terrorists, then what is Iran supposed to do? How can they possible deal with Trump and Bibi?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would you trust Donald Trump with anything?

The Iranian regime is dealing with the same thing. There is no trust. Which is not unreasonable when dealing with Trump/Kushner/Witkoff/Vance.

They are all snakes. Not an honest broker among them. And meanwhile, the US has another carrier group steaming to the region.

No one trusts America today. Which is a problem.

Now tell us about Iran and what snakes they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran has now upped the ante and is attacking ships in the strait of Hormuz. Very problematic, because they are not military but civilian sailors. Iran says they will not agree to a ceasefire until USA removes the blockade.

1. The head of the UN maritime agency has appealed for help for thousands of seafarers stranded in the Gulf by the effective closure of the strait of Hormuz.

About 20,000 seafarers and 2,000 ships have been stranded since US-Israeli strikes on Iran on 28 February, according to the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

The agency said at least 10 seafarers have been killed and several more severely injured in attacks on commercial vessels since the start of the war.

IMO’s secretary general, Arsenio Dominguez, said the agency is working on an evacuation plan for the stranded ships but that it can only be put into action when there are clear signs of de-escalation.

2. Here is a summary of the attacks reported in the strait of Hormuz and the statement by the IRGC of the seizure of two of the ships.

The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it received a report of a container ship coming under fire off the coast of Oman by a gun boat linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Greece’s Kathimerini newspaper reported that the ship was identified as the Liberia-flagged Epaminondas, owned by Greece’s Technomar Shipping and operated by MSC.
The UKMTO said it received a second report of a ship coming under attack in the strait of Hormuz, near the coast of Iran. It did not say who launched the attack against the cargo ship, which had stopped in the water. Iranian reports suggest the vessel was called Euphoria.
The maritime intelligence company Vanguard told the BBC that a third ship was attacked in the strait of Hormuz, identifying it as the Panama-flagged MSC Francesca.

These are innocent seafarers. While it is Iran attacking, USA now has a responsibility to address this in order to protect these people.

Did you forget what the US has done? The US navy blow up at least 54 civilian boats in the Caribbean and Pacific. They fired on an unarmed cargo ship in the Persian Gulf disabling it. No word on what happened to the crew of that ship. These are all acts of war and war crimes against civilians sailors.

The US is the bad actor and everyone of the seafarers trap in the Persian Gulf fear for their lives when they see a US navy vessel. It is time you admit the US is lawless and a rogue nation.

My god, you are an idiot. IRAN is a terrorist nation, doing what terrorists do - holding the entire world hostage and firing on innocent ships/sailors. There is no reasoning with terrorists.
DP

If there’s no reasoning with terrorists, then what is Iran supposed to do? How can they possible deal with Trump and Bibi?

It's cute the way you're trying desperately to paint Iran as some kind of victim. They are anything but.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran has now upped the ante and is attacking ships in the strait of Hormuz. Very problematic, because they are not military but civilian sailors. Iran says they will not agree to a ceasefire until USA removes the blockade.

1. The head of the UN maritime agency has appealed for help for thousands of seafarers stranded in the Gulf by the effective closure of the strait of Hormuz.

About 20,000 seafarers and 2,000 ships have been stranded since US-Israeli strikes on Iran on 28 February, according to the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

The agency said at least 10 seafarers have been killed and several more severely injured in attacks on commercial vessels since the start of the war.

IMO’s secretary general, Arsenio Dominguez, said the agency is working on an evacuation plan for the stranded ships but that it can only be put into action when there are clear signs of de-escalation.

2. Here is a summary of the attacks reported in the strait of Hormuz and the statement by the IRGC of the seizure of two of the ships.

The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it received a report of a container ship coming under fire off the coast of Oman by a gun boat linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Greece’s Kathimerini newspaper reported that the ship was identified as the Liberia-flagged Epaminondas, owned by Greece’s Technomar Shipping and operated by MSC.
The UKMTO said it received a second report of a ship coming under attack in the strait of Hormuz, near the coast of Iran. It did not say who launched the attack against the cargo ship, which had stopped in the water. Iranian reports suggest the vessel was called Euphoria.
The maritime intelligence company Vanguard told the BBC that a third ship was attacked in the strait of Hormuz, identifying it as the Panama-flagged MSC Francesca.

These are innocent seafarers. While it is Iran attacking, USA now has a responsibility to address this in order to protect these people.

Did you forget what the US has done? The US navy blow up at least 54 civilian boats in the Caribbean and Pacific. They fired on an unarmed cargo ship in the Persian Gulf disabling it. No word on what happened to the crew of that ship. These are all acts of war and war crimes against civilians sailors.

The US is the bad actor and everyone of the seafarers trap in the Persian Gulf fear for their lives when they see a US navy vessel. It is time you admit the US is lawless and a rogue nation.

My god, you are an idiot. IRAN is a terrorist nation, doing what terrorists do - holding the entire world hostage and firing on innocent ships/sailors. There is no reasoning with terrorists.
DP

If there’s no reasoning with terrorists, then what is Iran supposed to do? How can they possible deal with Trump and Bibi?

It's cute the way you're trying desperately to paint Iran as some kind of victim. They are anything but.

They are this time. Trump is unquestionably the bad guy in all this. The world’s villain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you trust Donald Trump with anything?

The Iranian regime is dealing with the same thing. There is no trust. Which is not unreasonable when dealing with Trump/Kushner/Witkoff/Vance.

They are all snakes. Not an honest broker among them. And meanwhile, the US has another carrier group steaming to the region.

No one trusts America today. Which is a problem.

Now tell us about Iran and what snakes they are.

Keep drinking from that can of Cope.

Israel is over. Iran will live on. We have to learn how to live in that future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you trust Donald Trump with anything?

The Iranian regime is dealing with the same thing. There is no trust. Which is not unreasonable when dealing with Trump/Kushner/Witkoff/Vance.

They are all snakes. Not an honest broker among them. And meanwhile, the US has another carrier group steaming to the region.

No one trusts America today. Which is a problem.

Now tell us about Iran and what snakes they are.

Keep drinking from that can of Cope.

Israel is over. Iran will live on. We have to learn how to live in that future.

You are so amusing, the way you continue to repeat your nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran has now upped the ante and is attacking ships in the strait of Hormuz. Very problematic, because they are not military but civilian sailors. Iran says they will not agree to a ceasefire until USA removes the blockade.

1. The head of the UN maritime agency has appealed for help for thousands of seafarers stranded in the Gulf by the effective closure of the strait of Hormuz.

About 20,000 seafarers and 2,000 ships have been stranded since US-Israeli strikes on Iran on 28 February, according to the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

The agency said at least 10 seafarers have been killed and several more severely injured in attacks on commercial vessels since the start of the war.

IMO’s secretary general, Arsenio Dominguez, said the agency is working on an evacuation plan for the stranded ships but that it can only be put into action when there are clear signs of de-escalation.

2. Here is a summary of the attacks reported in the strait of Hormuz and the statement by the IRGC of the seizure of two of the ships.

The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it received a report of a container ship coming under fire off the coast of Oman by a gun boat linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Greece’s Kathimerini newspaper reported that the ship was identified as the Liberia-flagged Epaminondas, owned by Greece’s Technomar Shipping and operated by MSC.
The UKMTO said it received a second report of a ship coming under attack in the strait of Hormuz, near the coast of Iran. It did not say who launched the attack against the cargo ship, which had stopped in the water. Iranian reports suggest the vessel was called Euphoria.
The maritime intelligence company Vanguard told the BBC that a third ship was attacked in the strait of Hormuz, identifying it as the Panama-flagged MSC Francesca.

These are innocent seafarers. While it is Iran attacking, USA now has a responsibility to address this in order to protect these people.

Did you forget what the US has done? The US navy blow up at least 54 civilian boats in the Caribbean and Pacific. They fired on an unarmed cargo ship in the Persian Gulf disabling it. No word on what happened to the crew of that ship. These are all acts of war and war crimes against civilians sailors.

The US is the bad actor and everyone of the seafarers trap in the Persian Gulf fear for their lives when they see a US navy vessel. It is time you admit the US is lawless and a rogue nation.

My god, you are an idiot. IRAN is a terrorist nation, doing what terrorists do - holding the entire world hostage and firing on innocent ships/sailors. There is no reasoning with terrorists.
DP

If there’s no reasoning with terrorists, then what is Iran supposed to do? How can they possible deal with Trump and Bibi?

It's cute the way you're trying desperately to paint Iran as some kind of victim. They are anything but.

I hate the Iranian regime too but facts are facts. You can’t have a ceasefire which Trump clearly wants and blockade at the same time. Perhaps if the outgoing Secretary of the Navy was remotely qualified he could have told Hegseth that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you trust Donald Trump with anything?

The Iranian regime is dealing with the same thing. There is no trust. Which is not unreasonable when dealing with Trump/Kushner/Witkoff/Vance.

They are all snakes. Not an honest broker among them. And meanwhile, the US has another carrier group steaming to the region.

No one trusts America today. Which is a problem.

Now tell us about Iran and what snakes they are.

Keep drinking from that can of Cope.

Israel is over. Iran will live on. We have to learn how to live in that future.

Thank goodness. Maybe this will be the last of the decade long wars we fight for Israel.

[Anonymous]

^^^ whoops ignore the one about the Secretary of Agriculture wasting money

Meanwhile, meet the incoming Secretary of the Navy, who at least retired as a Captain. However…

[Anonymous]

Does the genocidal ethnostate count as a foreign country or are they conveniently left out like with FARA?