War with Iran Part II

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Because a stronger iran helps Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

No you can’t. “Cut your losses” would have been with the previous poster said. Trump could’ve just said “I’m done peace out” But no! instead we’re GIVING them money AND removing the sanctions.

If you don’t care about Americans, then at least think about the Iranian people who’ve been suffering and now are going to suffer even more under this brutal regime that has been handed money and power on a silver platter from Trump

Sanctions don’t work, the ruling political elites become black market traders and accumulate wealth while the regular citizens suffer.
Iranian people are mostly young educated and technologically connected with time change will come from within.

They do work in the hands of professionals. Sanctions and sanctions relief if the primary was Obama got the JCPOA.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

As long as the Strait gets opened, I think he's just going to let this whole thing fade away in the news cycle. By summer, his plan will be for all of us to be talking about something else.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

As long as the Strait gets opened, I think he's just going to let this whole thing fade away in the news cycle. By summer, his plan will be for all of us to be talking about something else.

His cult will probably be dandy with it "see, gas is down from $5 what a great president". They never learn.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

As long as the Strait gets opened, I think he's just going to let this whole thing fade away in the news cycle. By summer, his plan will be for all of us to be talking about something else.

That’s not likely to happen. We all know Israel is going to keep fighting in Lebanon, and at some point Iran will say they’ve violated the agreement and close the strait again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

And the $300 Billion of taxpayer dollars that we will pay to reconstruct Iran, after bombing them?

Is there evidence of 300 billion dollars? It seems like Zionist spin to make the ceasefire agreement unpopular.

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[Anonymous]

Is this horrible deal going to be what finally makes the GOP break from Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this horrible deal going to be what finally makes the GOP break from Trump?

I don't think anything stops the cult these days.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

As long as the Strait gets opened, I think he's just going to let this whole thing fade away in the news cycle. By summer, his plan will be for all of us to be talking about something else.

That’s not likely to happen. We all know Israel is going to keep fighting in Lebanon, and at some point Iran will say they’ve violated the agreement and close the strait again.

I think the money is part of the bribe to make Iran look the other way on Lebanon, though. Of course, Israel is going to remain war mongering, unhinged, and genocidal. The whole world knows it.

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

The problem is this is just so much worse than just cutting the losses. It really signals how weak the US is now. It's amazing at how.much Trump has ruined the US in such a short period of time.

This is always the plan. Grover Norquist, Ronald Reagan. Both wanted to destroy the American experiment. Trump finished it.

I appreciate posters here who have a sense of history and do not mistakenly believe this all started in 2015.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Another slap in the face is that the MOU says that Iran never wanted a nuke in the first place - and Trump signed it. His idiot SIL and partner in crypto crime basically gave up.

Waiting to hear about Trump Tehran or Kushner Island in the Hormuz. Grifting is in their blood.

I knew this wasn't going to end well for the US but this is even worse than I imagined. Turns out firing everyone at the State Department who knew what they were doing has consequences.

And rhe fact that he signed it at Versailles, woof. Did literally no one Google that?

Chef's kiss to Macron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this horrible deal going to be what finally makes the GOP break from Trump?

Did you just emerge from a coma?

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Anonymous wrote:The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement.

Sad.

There is Peace for USA.

We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us.

ART OF THE DEAL.

It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back.
Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.

That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender.

Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.

Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon.

The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. I'd say this is a pretty good deal.

DP

Ok - keep telling yourself that.

Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth.

Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.

Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.

Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.

The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.

I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.

Claiming you “cutting your losses” requires you to admit the loss.

As long as the Strait gets opened, I think he's just going to let this whole thing fade away in the news cycle. By summer, his plan will be for all of us to be talking about something else.

That’s not likely to happen. We all know Israel is going to keep fighting in Lebanon, and at some point Iran will say they’ve violated the agreement and close the strait again.

I think the money is part of the bribe to make Iran look the other way on Lebanon, though. Of course, Israel is going to remain war mongering, unhinged, and genocidal. The whole world knows it.

I heard Trump will allow the Iranians to use part or all the 300 billion to lobby/influence elections in the US just like Israel. A lot of influencers, lobbyists, politicians and media type are going to get rich.