Head of School at National Child Research Center (NCRC) - Arrest warrant issued

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course “exmissions” is important to NCRC parents. Read any thread in this board about choosing a preschool program and the topic is top of mind. That Carroll worked it at Beauvoir was a prime reason to hire him at NCRC. Parents want that next rung on the ladder. To say this isn’t so is being, at best, disingenuous.

But that is absolutely no reason to think people would overlook any indicators of the kind of behavior he is accused of.

Correct first paragraph. Second paragraph is sheer naivety. Elites overlook criminal activity among their own all the time. Just look at our WH today.

You are simply stupid if you think individual parents would put their own children at this sort of risk. By being stupid, over and over, you just cause people to ignore you and think everything you say is stupid.

I think we all know who the stupid one is … Nobody is saying that the board members walked in on kids getting assaulted and ignored it. (Although that did happen in some horrible cases like Penn State and Sandusky.) We’re talking about conflicts of interest and school culture that lends itself to concerns not being aired in the first place; along with lack of safeguarding policies that are enforced against everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very disturbing. NCRC parent here. Wasn't one of the big ticket auction items, preschoolers getting to spend the day with him at a baseball game? Yuck.

This is what one would call a red flag.

This is creepy in retrospect, but not unusual, nor a red flag.

Plenty of teachers and staff at NCRC, and other private schools in the area, offer special outings and one-on-one activities as part of their annual fundraising efforts.

well they shouldn’t. That’s the whole point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course “exmissions” is important to NCRC parents. Read any thread in this board about choosing a preschool program and the topic is top of mind. That Carroll worked it at Beauvoir was a prime reason to hire him at NCRC. Parents want that next rung on the ladder. To say this isn’t so is being, at best, disingenuous.

But that is absolutely no reason to think people would overlook any indicators of the kind of behavior he is accused of.

Correct first paragraph. Second paragraph is sheer naivety. Elites overlook criminal activity among their own all the time. Just look at our WH today.

You are simply stupid if you think individual parents would put their own children at this sort of risk. By being stupid, over and over, you just cause people to ignore you and think everything you say is stupid.

I think we all know who the stupid one is … Nobody is saying that the board members walked in on kids getting assaulted and ignored it. (Although that did happen in some horrible cases like Penn State and Sandusky.) We’re talking about conflicts of interest and school culture that lends itself to concerns not being aired in the first place; along with lack of safeguarding policies that are enforced against everyone.

There you go again.

The previous post (you?) said criminal activity, not COI or safeguarding policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course “exmissions” is important to NCRC parents. Read any thread in this board about choosing a preschool program and the topic is top of mind. That Carroll worked it at Beauvoir was a prime reason to hire him at NCRC. Parents want that next rung on the ladder. To say this isn’t so is being, at best, disingenuous.

But that is absolutely no reason to think people would overlook any indicators of the kind of behavior he is accused of.

Correct first paragraph. Second paragraph is sheer naivety. Elites overlook criminal activity among their own all the time. Just look at our WH today.

You are simply stupid if you think individual parents would put their own children at this sort of risk. By being stupid, over and over, you just cause people to ignore you and think everything you say is stupid.

I think we all know who the stupid one is … Nobody is saying that the board members walked in on kids getting assaulted and ignored it. (Although that did happen in some horrible cases like Penn State and Sandusky.) We’re talking about conflicts of interest and school culture that lends itself to concerns not being aired in the first place; along with lack of safeguarding policies that are enforced against everyone.

Insane that you used the Penn state thing but ok, let’s use that example. No parent walked in on Sandusky abusing their own child so what we’re saying is that people on the board with children at the school, aren’t covering up for someone that can hurt their very own kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course “exmissions” is important to NCRC parents. Read any thread in this board about choosing a preschool program and the topic is top of mind. That Carroll worked it at Beauvoir was a prime reason to hire him at NCRC. Parents want that next rung on the ladder. To say this isn’t so is being, at best, disingenuous.

But that is absolutely no reason to think people would overlook any indicators of the kind of behavior he is accused of.

Correct first paragraph. Second paragraph is sheer naivety. Elites overlook criminal activity among their own all the time. Just look at our WH today.

You are simply stupid if you think individual parents would put their own children at this sort of risk. By being stupid, over and over, you just cause people to ignore you and think everything you say is stupid.

I think we all know who the stupid one is … Nobody is saying that the board members walked in on kids getting assaulted and ignored it. (Although that did happen in some horrible cases like Penn State and Sandusky.) We’re talking about conflicts of interest and school culture that lends itself to concerns not being aired in the first place; along with lack of safeguarding policies that are enforced against everyone.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The board traditionally includes former parents too as well as one or two trustees who do not have children who ever went to the school.

The characterization of a dynamic where the head of school wields power over parents (or the 3/4 of families whose kids apply to private schools) because he or she gives guidance and communicates with schools during the ongoing school application process is just wrong. Ongoing schools ultimately do as they wish and decide for themselves which applicants they will accept. The decision is not up to the head of a preschool.

There is so much misinformation and hysteria on this thread. I feel like I’m reading The Crucible. If you are a current or former NCRC family or are thinking of applying for next year, who not ask these questions of the school, and not an anonymous, unreliable forum.

You’re saying the HOS has no influence on exmissions?

Since you’re an insider, can you detail the NCRC child safeguarding policies and practices, and more generally, how the school creates an atmosphere where complaints can be raised without fear of retaliation?

Once again, do you just like avoiding questions. What complaints would have kept Jc from doing what he did. Nobody knew so complaining about child going outside without a coat, would have been ignored? What complaints are you thinking of that might have helped here?

nobody knows. That’s the point of the investigation.

Are you denying that organizations need child safeguarding policies and protections for people who raise complaints.

What? If that’s how you read it, I can’t possibly explain it to you any further. I can’t figure out if you’re dense on purpose to troll or if you’re really this way. I definitely was not saying what you got from it. Wow

Allowing any one staff and one student out alone for a “special” event is the exact opposite of safeguarding the preschool children. Wake up, people!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course “exmissions” is important to NCRC parents. Read any thread in this board about choosing a preschool program and the topic is top of mind. That Carroll worked it at Beauvoir was a prime reason to hire him at NCRC. Parents want that next rung on the ladder. To say this isn’t so is being, at best, disingenuous.

But that is absolutely no reason to think people would overlook any indicators of the kind of behavior he is accused of.

Correct first paragraph. Second paragraph is sheer naivety. Elites overlook criminal activity among their own all the time. Just look at our WH today.

You are simply stupid if you think individual parents would put their own children at this sort of risk. By being stupid, over and over, you just cause people to ignore you and think everything you say is stupid.

I think we all know who the stupid one is … Nobody is saying that the board members walked in on kids getting assaulted and ignored it. (Although that did happen in some horrible cases like Penn State and Sandusky.) We’re talking about conflicts of interest and school culture that lends itself to concerns not being aired in the first place; along with lack of safeguarding policies that are enforced against everyone.

Insane that you used the Penn state thing but ok, let’s use that example. No parent walked in on Sandusky abusing their own child so what we’re saying is that people on the board with children at the school, aren’t covering up for someone that can hurt their very own kid.

Abusers know which children to target, and which children are hands off.

[Anonymous]

JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

Curious how deep the FBI investigation will go. I assume they are working to determine if there were victims at NCRC, Beauvoir, and Concord Hill. Has the FBI or the schools shared anything about the investigation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

Curious how deep the FBI investigation will go. I assume they are working to determine if there were victims at NCRC, Beauvoir, and Concord Hill. Has the FBI or the schools shared anything about the investigation?

I have no idea. Have not heard anything from Beauvoir. I had no idea JC was meeting alone with anyone until he was arrested and it came up in conversation. He should not have been allowed to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

Curious how deep the FBI investigation will go. I assume they are working to determine if there were victims at NCRC, Beauvoir, and Concord Hill. Has the FBI or the schools shared anything about the investigation?

Very doubtful. It is not the job of the FBI to police the schools. They need to do their own internal investigations, which is what we are discussing here.

[Anonymous]

But wouldn’t the FBI want to know the extent of JC’s crimes and find victims? Wouldn’t they look at the schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

This is false. The outplacement meetings were with the parents. Kids were not involved. JC would discuss the kids with their teachers. This makes total sense since the teachers spend hours every day with these kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JC was allowed to be alone with kids for meetings at Beauvoir as outplacement director even though they had assured parents they were putting safety measures in place to avoid issues after Toth. Teachers and staff were not to be allowed alone with students anymore yet JC was allowed with students for outplacement meetings. The buck must stop somewhere - where were Governing Board members during these times? Where does the buck stop? Seriously asking.

This is false. The outplacement meetings were with the parents. Kids were not involved. JC would discuss the kids with their teachers. This makes total sense since the teachers spend hours every day with these kids.

He met with some students alone. Whether he should have or should not have may be the question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An institution can’t move forward in a situation like this without examining, investigating, etc. That’s just a fact—whether it’s a school, a corporation, a govt agency. I’m the poster who has repeatedly said that the (perceived) power JC wielded with parents vis-à-vis getting kids into kindergarten was a bad thing. Don’t forget, the board at NCRC is always made up largely of current parents…parents who saw JC as their ticket to a great kindergarten. This power imbalance (or perceived power imbalance) with the HOS should not be replicated as the school moves forward.

Agree with all of this. I felt like I had to shut my mouth when it came to having any issue with anyone at NCRC for fear that it would prevent my child from getting into private K. Everyone kisses up and never rocks the boat. I mean a few do but the majority stay quiet and smile and nod. It was so odd being at that school.

The board needs to take a hard look in the mirror and what the members bring to the table. Also interesting that if you are an FA family, you will never be on the board. When we were at NCRC, not one member of the board besides JC had experience working with children. Everyone on the board was rich, worked in real estate, law, finance or SAHM or SAHD. How about filling the board with some people that actually work in education?

Sounds like you are not familiar with the responsibilities of boards vs HOS and other admin at independent schools. In any event, the NCRC board had several members with deep experience in private, public, and charter school education when my kids were at NCRC.