Top 100 undergrad CS by US News
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Anonymous
PP here. I never commented on the $400K. However that being the median certainly doesn't prevent it, and in fact supports the obvious point that half make more than that. Maths and whatnot. |
Anonymous
This is the problem when people don't look at the full picture. Click on the Clemson map to see where they work after graduating, majority are in SC, where a $65k salary is like making $100k in Boston where MIT is. Chances are MIT grads end up in even HCOL areas like NYC, and West Coast. |
Anonymous
On page 1, it says 23% of bachelor grads are founding members of the employers. |
Anonymous
That’ll make the gap closer, but that won’t close it. |
Anonymous
Breathtaking the amount of "moving the goalposts" going on in this thread. Of course the top 4 are tippy top. Go back, there's agreement on that. Those are the "$400k" schools. But how about #8? #22? #37? #61? #90? Kids are gonna be fine with CS degrees from across those colleges. Laughable that people scoff at $65k as an opening salary. We're talking college grads. And yes, it matters where you're hired. $65k in one city is $85k in another. Boise vs. San Francisco. |
Anonymous
| Would you pick Berkeley over Harvard Yale and Princeton for CS? |
Anonymous
Y'all making it unnecessarily complicated. Top 4 are top. There is no big gulf between them and the next 4 - it's the same kids and program basically. There is some debate of who's the next 4 but usually UIUC, GT, Cornell, UDub. Add some associate members to the mix: HYP, Columbia and Caltech. These are the schools that you get a quantifiable resume and recruiting boost. And you need it because there's a wide range in CS jobs/companies Don't need to look at placements, salaries, geos etc. just take them for granted. Next, do well in school, build personal skills, keep up the mental health, build broad networks, seek opportunities. Done. It's the same schtick as T-14 Law schools, M7 business schools - we like simplicity. |
Anonymous
Depends. Which Berkeley? Berkeley MET? Kids pick this over HYP Berkeley EECS? Depends on fit and how interested you are in CS Berkeley L&S? No Then there is perception that H is not great for CS (CS is an AB not an SB degree), Yale even worse, Princeton is good but hard and intensely elite (socially). It's more complicated than is Berkeley CS better (it is) |
Anonymous
Yale: Possibly. Princeton: Unlikely. Harvard: no. |
Anonymous
As almost 100% should pick Harvard over UCB. |
Anonymous
Because it has everything to do with understanding what you do as an individual will determine your success, not the college you went to. According to the logic of most people in this thread Bill Gates wouldn't even have a job because he dropped out of college. He figured college wasn't a necessity for him because there wasn't anything Harvard professors were going to teach him that could be useful to him, instead he already had his startup. There are two kinds of people, those who count the salaries and college rankings, and those who take that out of the equation and instead focus on their own human capital. A college student no matter where they go should always count on their human capital, take out salary counting out of question, this $20k to $30k differences never bothered me when I started out in Tech, I knew there were guys making that much more than me because they went to a higher name brand college. What I focused was on increasing competency and demand more, push back against anyone who brought up "where you went to college?" question, to my mind the ones who ask that are always the ones with block in their head, they won't go past their own limitations, so you identify them and go past them, or around them, then find avenues where your individual capabilities are recognized, if that fails then innovate and develop something on your own to prove it. Folks who rank people on name brands tend to be the ones with limitations is my take, they don't know how to do it without a crutch for support. Let you be the person who define the university you go to, not the other way around is the advice I give to my kids. If they follow it, they'll end up wherever they wish to be, and not worry about the small differences in starting salaries. |
Anonymous
When can we stop this kind of nonsense? Bill Gates did get into Harvard, which is a reflection of his ability. Unlike some people here who couldn't even get into UVA and are dreaming to be Bill Gates. Also you're making 300k after 25 years? That's great. But a lot of fresh out of (top) school kids are making more than you, which says a lot about the topic. |
Anonymous
And a bunch of college drop-outs are making more than everyone else (including those from MIT). |
Anonymous
This is the typical confirmation bias. You can always find some outlier evidence that supports your bias. Fortnately Palantir is a small company that not many people care about. And many much bigger IT companies (including Apple, Google) are founded by people that graduated from state universities that you despised. |
Anonymous
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Where Top 3 Tech CEO's of today went to school for undergraduate engineering and their global rankings:
1. Google - Sundar Pichai: IIT Chennai, ranked #275 (followed by a Stanford masters degree) 2. Microsoft - Satya Nadella: Manipal Institute of technology, ranked #1056 (followed by masters from UW-Milwaukee - rank #300, and MBA from Chicago-Booth) 3. IBM - Arvind Krishna: IIT Kanpur, ranked #350 (followed by MS, PhD UIUC) Right, so according to DCUM experts these gentlemen couldn't get into Top 10 or Ivy's for undergraduate and so they were doomed for life to sit in that dark cubicle earning $75k. Oh, and look at that Microsoft CEO who did his Masters in Engineering from lowly UW-Milwaukee, isn't that just a low ranked regional center of U-Wisconsin .. LOL What business these people have in getting jobs at these companies, let alone rise to the top. Folks, get a grip, a HS may not get into some school because they are too young to realize their true potential, many are focused on sports, video games, and just plain enjoying being teens. There is a reason why majors don't need to be declared before Junior year in college, at age 20, that's when they truly start realizing their capabilities and what they want to do with it. Shame on those of you who try to insult the kids who couldn't get into UVA or UMD as incapable of doing anything better in their life. You must be a really sad parent. Some kids who go to any state school will do very well, if they realize their capabilities later in life, some won't, and some who go to top schools will drop out, burn out, or will not materialize the promise they once showed. That's life. |