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Okay, bozo, what do you I know, I have only spent 25 years in the industry, starting with a $50k salary that rapidly rose to double in few years out of college, was leading tech teams before 30, spent a career in building systems for top employers in the DC areas, and now supports two major consulting companies as a independent making over $300k, [b]couple of million in investments that I manage myself, paying $200k tuition to one kid, and saving for another one.[/b] I guess I need to get out there more and see more life, yeah I'll take advice from you..

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What is that got to do with the CS undergrad salary?  With couple of millions in investments, why bother saving tuition for your other one?  You have it already.  Are you kids going into CS?
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Because it has everything to do with understanding what you do as an individual will determine your success, not the college you went to. According to the logic of most people in this thread Bill Gates wouldn't even have a job because he dropped out of college. He figured college wasn't a necessity for him because there wasn't anything Harvard professors were going to teach him that could be useful to him, instead he already had his startup. There are two kinds of people, those who count the salaries and college rankings, and those who take that out of the equation and instead focus on their own human capital. A college student no matter where they go should always count on their human capital, take out salary counting out of question, this $20k to $30k differences never bothered me when I started out in Tech, I knew there were guys making that much more than me because they went to a higher name brand college. What I focused was on increasing competency and demand more, push back against anyone who brought up "where you went to college?" question, to my mind the ones who ask that are always the ones with block in their head, they won't go past their own limitations, so you identify them and go past them, or around them, then find avenues where your individual capabilities are recognized, if that fails then innovate and develop something on your own to prove it. Folks who rank people on name brands tend to be the ones with limitations is my take, they don't know how to do it without a crutch for support. Let you be the person who define the university you go to, not the other way around is the advice I give to my kids. If they follow it, they'll end up wherever they wish to be, and not worry about the small differences in starting salaries.

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When can we stop this kind of nonsense? Bill Gates did get into Harvard, which is a reflection of his ability. Unlike some people here who couldn't even get into UVA and are dreaming to be Bill Gates.
Also you're making 300k after 25 years? That's great. But a lot of fresh out of (top) school kids are making more than you, which says a lot about the topic.
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And a bunch of college drop-outs are making more than everyone else (including those from MIT).[/quote]

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