Top 100 undergrad CS by US News

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I thought people were talking about 400k total, not base.

For all but the rarest cases thats still going to be closer to 200k fresh out. If you're good, you'll be double that 5 years later

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Anonymous wrote:
I thought people were talking about 400k total, not base.

For all but the rarest cases thats still going to be closer to 200k fresh out. If you're good, you'll be double that 5 years later

400k is actually more prevalent in quant trading than in tech.

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Anonymous wrote:
I thought people were talking about 400k total, not base.

For all but the rarest cases thats still going to be closer to 200k fresh out. If you're good, you'll be double that 5 years later

400k is actually more prevalent in quant trading than in tech.

yup

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Anonymous wrote:
I thought people were talking about 400k total, not base.

For all but the rarest cases thats still going to be closer to 200k fresh out. If you're good, you'll be double that 5 years later

400k is actually more prevalent in quant trading than in tech.

True, but there are lots of tech-related quant roles.

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It looks like this troll works for Palantir.

And the firm in question

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Anonymous wrote:Tech / CS hiring manager here - don't discriminate at all among the top 100 schools. don't care at all. Decent GPA? fine, lets move on and talk shop. The higher ranked placement records is just a matter of the quality of the average student. If you expect the school to bring you along, then sure, you should focus on that. The reality is the best CS candidates are passionate about the industry and do a lot on their own time as a hobby. Personal experiences, internships/professional experience, and how competent you are during the interview matters 1000x more than which school you went to

This is commonly known but doesn't invalidate the points made in this thread.
No one is claiming graduating from a top school would automatically guarantee you a job or certain salary. It's more like the graduates from top schools are relatively of higher quality and motivation (college admission is a screening process to some extent).
In addition, as many have said, certain top firms recruit mainly from selected top schools (due to the same reasons mentioned above).
On average, there is a significant difference in going to a top school or not in terms of starting your career, even for fields such as CS. Your observation as a hiring manager from a relatively obscure firm doesn't necessarily proof anything.

This. It will be helpful PPs reveal which firm they work for.

If I am a hiring manager from a top firm and pay $400k for top talent, do I want to sift through thousands of resumes from average schools to find that gem or I limit my search to MIT, CMU, etc where the success rate would be much higher?

The reality is students from top schools are better candidates than regular schools on average.

"$400k for top talent"? Are you crazy? That is so rare, like 20 jobs at most? Why on earth would you use that as a standard for hiring from the top 100 CS schools? Get out in the real world sometime. There's fresh air out there. You've been inhaling your own prestige fumes for too long.

By the time someone is ready to get 400k the work experience and degree matters not where you went to school. I was discussing this with MIT graduated senior manager and he/she said usually they prefer not big school as some of the kids are snobs. Might be one individual opinion.

I think the previous poster was referring 400k as your first out of college salary.

Get real folks. I am in Tech, and $200k is about the max for a fresh out of school candidate even in the top of the top silicon valley startups, and that too for the rare candidate from Stanford, MIT, CMU, etc. This is less than 0.5% of the graduating class, why are folks here arguing about issues that are not grounded in reality.

Most fresh graduates will be more than happy to get a job, which they will if they graduate from any of these Top 100 CS schools, and they all will be more than happy to make $60K out of the gate. After that, get some job experience, make your resume look good, learn some skills, and certifications, watch your salary double by switching jobs couple of times in the next 5 years. A smart person can double their salary in CS in that timeframe, and that should be more than good enough. CS is hard, no matter what school you go, and anyone who can graduate with a CS major is good enough, stop creating these class distinctions, we are not in communist china but the united states, here the person who can sell themselves better rises to top, not the best PhD Math student. In fact the best Math student from CMU may end up working for the company whose CEO graduated from Penn State because that person is good at marketing themselves

Such a boomer! You need to get out of your shell to see the world.
What kind of Tech are you in? Pretty miserable tech I would say. Making 60k with a CS degree is just laughable.

Okay, bozo, what do you I know, I have only spent 25 years in the industry, starting with a $50k salary that rapidly rose to double in few years out of college, was leading tech teams before 30, spent a career in building systems for top employers in the DC areas, and now supports two major consulting companies as a independent making over $300k, couple of million in investments that I manage myself, paying $200k tuition to one kid, and saving for another one. I guess I need to get out there more and see more life, yeah I'll take advice from you..

Not impressed at all even if it’s true. And all the evidence points to you’re making things up. Now tell me that 60k story again.

See here: http://web17a.sci.pitt.edu/careers/outlook/job-placement-stats/

and here (2018 report): http://www.studentaffairs.pitt.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Class-of-2018-Post-Graduation-Data.pdf


Average starting salary of Pitt SCI graduate with no work experience: $62K. $67K in 2018 report. This is a middle of pack CS school from the Top 100 list (ranked between 50 and 60)

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Anonymous wrote:You can count on 2 hands the CS grads making $400k base directly out of undergrad, and no CS grad is going to be happy with $60k right out of school. That was a starting salary 25 years ago

Sounds like they have to settle for $65k median according to these reports, these schools are in the Top 100 list.

See here: https://career.sites.clemson.edu/data_analytics/2019-2020.php

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Anonymous wrote:You can count on 2 hands the CS grads making $400k base directly out of undergrad, and no CS grad is going to be happy with $60k right out of school. That was a starting salary 25 years ago

Sounds like they have to settle for $65k median according to these reports, these schools are in the Top 100 list.

See here: https://career.sites.clemson.edu/data_analytics/2019-2020.php

Doesn't this refute the ridiculous claim that there is no difference in CS starting salary between top school and lower tier graduates?

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$65 in Pitt is equivalent to $80 in DMV. A lot of differences due to the COL.

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Okay, bozo, what do you I know, I have only spent 25 years in the industry, starting with a $50k salary that rapidly rose to double in few years out of college, was leading tech teams before 30, spent a career in building systems for top employers in the DC areas, and now supports two major consulting companies as a independent making over $300k, couple of million in investments that I manage myself, paying $200k tuition to one kid, and saving for another one. I guess I need to get out there more and see more life, yeah I'll take advice from you..

What is that got to do with the CS undergrad salary? With couple of millions in investments, why bother saving tuition for your other one? You have it already. Are you kids going into CS?

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Anonymous wrote:$65 in Pitt is equivalent to $80 in DMV. A lot of differences due to the COL.

Yes, because everybody works in the city they went to college in. Perfectly logical analysis.

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Anonymous wrote:You can count on 2 hands the CS grads making $400k base directly out of undergrad, and no CS grad is going to be happy with $60k right out of school. That was a starting salary 25 years ago

Sounds like they have to settle for $65k median according to these reports, these schools are in the Top 100 list.

See here: https://career.sites.clemson.edu/data_analytics/2019-2020.php

Doesn't this refute the ridiculous claim that there is no difference in CS starting salary between top school and lower tier graduates?

It sure does

https://capd.mit.edu/resources/student-outcomes-and-salaries

go to page 9

CS degree median $118,000. So almost double MIT over Clemson. Oh, and that does not include the median bonus of $40,000 (for those that received one).

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Anonymous wrote:$65 in Pitt is equivalent to $80 in DMV. A lot of differences due to the COL.

Yes, because everybody works in the city they went to college in. Perfectly logical analysis.

they all moved dmv to work as your slave. perfefctly logical analysis.

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Anonymous wrote:You can count on 2 hands the CS grads making $400k base directly out of undergrad, and no CS grad is going to be happy with $60k right out of school. That was a starting salary 25 years ago

Sounds like they have to settle for $65k median according to these reports, these schools are in the Top 100 list.

See here: https://career.sites.clemson.edu/data_analytics/2019-2020.php

Doesn't this refute the ridiculous claim that there is no difference in CS starting salary between top school and lower tier graduates?

It sure does

https://capd.mit.edu/resources/student-outcomes-and-salaries

go to page 9

CS degree median $118,000. So almost double MIT over Clemson. Oh, and that does not include the median bonus of $40,000 (for those that received one).

Only $118000? What a dispointment! Where are those with 400k ?

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Anonymous wrote:You can count on 2 hands the CS grads making $400k base directly out of undergrad, and no CS grad is going to be happy with $60k right out of school. That was a starting salary 25 years ago

Sounds like they have to settle for $65k median according to these reports, these schools are in the Top 100 list.

See here: https://career.sites.clemson.edu/data_analytics/2019-2020.php

Doesn't this refute the ridiculous claim that there is no difference in CS starting salary between top school and lower tier graduates?

It sure does

https://capd.mit.edu/resources/student-outcomes-and-salaries

go to page 9

CS degree median $118,000. So almost double MIT over Clemson. Oh, and that does not include the median bonus of $40,000 (for those that received one).

Only $118000? What a dispointment! Where are those with 400k ?

What an idiot?
First, that's median base salary, not the highest or a high percentile. With median bonus of 40k, that's 160k total (again it's median).
Second, no body ever said everyone graduating MIT makes 400k.
Third, a portion of graduates go into startups or have their own startups. They receive relatively low salary in exchange for high potential. These students pull down the overall numbers.