December 17 - TJ decision?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1.5% from each school does not make sense without a minimum and without acknowledging centers get more kids. Are they doing away with middle school centers too?

It’s a minimum 1.5% from each middle school and that minimum means more kids from the middle schools with more 8th graders, which are usually AAP centers. They don’t care if the top 1.5% from Poe might not be in the top 20% at Carson because they have decided broader geographic representation is more important.

I give it by next year for some people to be renting in the unrepresented middle school boundaries or leaving their AAP center for 8th grade at their base middle school if it gives a better shot at TJ.

Why bother? The quality of the student body will decline and it’s not like TJ will have the same reputation for excellence.

And as a results, maybe stress will go down and the suicides will go down and the quality of life of these kids will go way up.

The current TJ product is not without massive issues. Let's look at the glass half full and focus on what will will likely improve.

My kids love “the current TJ product.” I am guessing you don’t have any there that’s why you believe the rumors about it.

I'm an Alumni so I know what the experience is like, unlike you, who only listens to 3rd hand information from your children. They are likely too afraid to tell you the truth. Most of us alumni recognize a change needs to occur. It's current parents who do not. It's not even their kids.

“I’m an Alumni”? From a TJ grad? Yikes.

Anyway, these exercises in after-the-fact wokeness are what turn off a lot of people. Bet you frequently let people know you went to TJ but you want to make it as much as a crap shoot as you can for future students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1.5% from each school does not make sense without a minimum and without acknowledging centers get more kids. Are they doing away with middle school centers too?

It’s a minimum 1.5% from each middle school and that minimum means more kids from the middle schools with more 8th graders, which are usually AAP centers. They don’t care if the top 1.5% from Poe might not be in the top 20% at Carson because they have decided broader geographic representation is more important.

I give it by next year for some people to be renting in the unrepresented middle school boundaries or leaving their AAP center for 8th grade at their base middle school if it gives a better shot at TJ.

Why bother? The quality of the student body will decline and it’s not like TJ will have the same reputation for excellence.

And as a results, maybe stress will go down and the suicides will go down and the quality of life of these kids will go way up.

The current TJ product is not without massive issues. Let's look at the glass half full and focus on what will will likely improve.

My kids love “the current TJ product.” I am guessing you don’t have any there that’s why you believe the rumors about it.

I'm an Alumni so I know what the experience is like, unlike you, who only listens to 3rd hand information from your children. They are likely too afraid to tell you the truth. Most of us alumni recognize a change needs to occur. It's current parents who do not. It's not even their kids.

“I’m an Alumni”? From a TJ grad? Yikes.

Anyway, these exercises in after-the-fact wokeness are what turn off a lot of people. Bet you frequently let people know you went to TJ but you want to make it as much as a crap shoot as you can for future students.

TJ's ELA education has never been the best.
--fellow alumnus

[Anonymous]

How do they determine the top 1.5% from a middle school anyway? So many kids have a 4.0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two questions if anyone knows the answer.

1. So is this based on the child’s base middle school or where they actually attend?

2. Do kids with an IEP have a “leg up”? Will kids with a 504 have a similar leg up?

Where they actually attend, not the base school.

Their holistic approach is supposed to look at students with a 504 or IEP in connection with “experience factors.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do they determine the top 1.5% from a middle school anyway? So many kids have a 4.0

Don't forget the magic "experience factors."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do they determine the top 1.5% from a middle school anyway? So many kids have a 4.0

It will not simply be based on GPA. It will be a largely subjective assessment about who they like the most for TJ.

If they were upset about the test prep firms before, just wait until those firms reverse engineer what makes a TJ applicant most likable.

[Anonymous]

This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

And this is why a county-wide lottery would’ve been a better solution. I support Tj reform, but what came out of the endless meetings was just horrid.

[Anonymous]

Any idea whether it is the overall GPA or the GPA of core subjects (LA, Math, Science)?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, there goes TJ being the best high school in the country. This is the end result of leftist ideology, not an improvement for the masses, but a cutting down of the top performers.

You get what you vote for.

The top performers will still be top performers. Their parents just won't be able to drive around with TJ stickers on their cars.

TJ provides superior quality education than other surrounding schools. Those top performers will now not perform as well as if they had gone to TJ. Meanwhile, TJ's performance as a school will be brought down to a lower level. So the school suffers, the better-academically-qualified students suffer, all so that there are more students of the desirable skin color in the school.

Like white. This will only boost white kids and then I cannot wait to see the different song everyone sings. As an East Asian I recognize this is necessary but let's not pretend it will benefit anyone any more than it will benefit white kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

hopefully a teacher at Whitman will chuckle as they give the kid a C and torpedo their chances

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

Key point, though: don't be of an ethnicity for which high academic aptitude is assumed to go hand-in-hand with a lack of intellectual creativity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

You have no clue how hard it is to get an IEP or a 504 plan. Absolutely no clue. It is not an easy process. You have to show an academic impact on the child in order to qualify for an IEP, which means that you need to have a kid who is in danger of failing a grade, so not something you want to do in 8th grade if you are trying to get into TJ. Not to mention the testing that is conducted by the school that the school falls back on. Or the meeting every three years to evaluate if the accommodations. Or the three year review with new testing to keep an IEP.

504 plans are almost as hard to get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

You have no clue how hard it is to get an IEP or a 504 plan. Absolutely no clue. It is not an easy process. You have to show an academic impact on the child in order to qualify for an IEP, which means that you need to have a kid who is in danger of failing a grade, so not something you want to do in 8th grade if you are trying to get into TJ. Not to mention the testing that is conducted by the school that the school falls back on. Or the meeting every three years to evaluate if the accommodations. Or the three year review with new testing to keep an IEP.

504 plans are almost as hard to get.

Look, there are parents that were willing to pay $10,000+ over the course of several years to ensure their child was admitted. (See 28% of the class of 2024 coming from one $$$ prep company). Spend that same dough on private neuropsych and an educational advocate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems super simple to game.

- get an IEP/504. I’m sure there are educational advocates/psychologists that can with this.
- pupil place at one of the low yield schools for 8th grade. You don’t even need to move I guess.
- take a prep class for the SIS essay. Bonus - Use that IEP/504 for extended time

Done.

You have no clue how hard it is to get an IEP or a 504 plan. Absolutely no clue. It is not an easy process. You have to show an academic impact on the child in order to qualify for an IEP, which means that you need to have a kid who is in danger of failing a grade, so not something you want to do in 8th grade if you are trying to get into TJ. Not to mention the testing that is conducted by the school that the school falls back on. Or the meeting every three years to evaluate if the accommodations. Or the three year review with new testing to keep an IEP.

504 plans are almost as hard to get.

Look, there are parents that were willing to pay $10,000+ over the course of several years to ensure their child was admitted. (See 28% of the class of 2024 coming from one $$$ prep company). Spend that same dough on private neuropsych and an educational advocate.

Will be interesting to compare the number of IEPs amount middle schoolers this year vs in the next few years. The school board set up these incentives; people will respond.