‘Slow Streets’ is stupid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

Hold on...because a family of four only has one car you are somehow making that stat fit your "DC residents don't want cars theory?"

Put me in the camp of "Why can't we have both cars and slow streets"

Why are we so stupid that we cannot handle both realities?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

I think that the "most people here have cars" PP means "everybody I know has a car."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why would people from the suburbs be taking neighborhood cut throughs?

Why are we pissed at kids playing kickball again?

Wasn't this done as a "let's get people out of the house and give them a safe place to walk during COVID" idea.

This is not anti car. Nobody said "F the cars" it was about helping walkers.

You will get your road back. But you may have to look out for kickball players.

I live near a bunch of slow streets. No one uses them for anything but driving and parking cars. Pretty sure that no child ever anywhere has used a slow street to play kickball.

So true! And someone keeps moving the Slow Streets signs out of the way to ease passing. It's all another PR stunt for Muriel

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

I have a 6500 square foot house on a 25000 square foot yard and I want slower traffic on my street! In fact, I have achieved it via calming measures and the now nearly constant presence of police nabbing people for speeding and blowing through stop signs - and I LIVE IN DC! We didn’t have a ton of traffic in the first place but I will be damned if folks try to ignore the rules on my block.

Why do you need such a massive house? Do you have 3 generations of family living with you, or like 8 kids? Because unless you do, how can you justify such as large house for a regular size family???

Do you have any idea the amount of energy or electricity required to keep a house that size working? It’s literally 3 times larger than the average American home - which itself is much more consumptive than most homes in the rest of the world. Not too mention the whole privilege aspect of flaunting such wealth in a city where so many are barely scraping by.

You are the reason DC and most other coastal cities will be under water in our lifetimes.

Thanks a lot.

Not so fast bucko, I have an excellent idea. I built the house and we have a geothermal and solar mix. We also have a specifically planned garden and tree space. In the end, our carbon footprint is probably 1/100 of yours. Stop launching into attacks when YOU are likely the problem. Go find a mirror and deal with the person you see in it. And don’t speed!

I don’t care if it’s powered by magic and your garden has a skittles trees - you have a massive house, a house way bigger than you need - in a city where POC are living in tents underneath bridges.

Did you even consider taking part of your 25,000 sq foot lot and building a home for some of these *human beings* that have literally nothing? Or building a a smaller house and putting the rest of the money into helping a shelter?

Of course you didn’t. Because you’re scum.

You might not have a trump sign in your yard, but your home tells everyone all they need to know about you and who you support.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

Hold on...because a family of four only has one car you are somehow making that stat fit your "DC residents don't want cars theory?"

Put me in the camp of "Why can't we have both cars and slow streets"

Why are we so stupid that we cannot handle both realities?

I never said anyone "didn't want cars." I said that a family of four (presuming at least two adults) with only one car is ALSO going to rely on non-car modes of transport. Either because different people need to go different places or because the car is in the shop. I'm in a three person family with one car; the reality is that I often rely on walking and public transit. Prioritizing cars exclusively is bad for me even though I own a car.

I don't think we disagree. Cars aren't going anywhere, but we can share the space with them more. I'm a driver but I support Slow Streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

People who hate cars are like people who hate lawnmowers - it’s a small fringe-y group with nutty views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

People who hate cars are like people who hate lawnmowers - it’s a small fringe-y group with nutty views.

But the people who hate lawnmowers" group one.

THen they moved on to leaf blowers.

Now they are moving onto ICE cars.

Then they will move onto BEV's.

[Anonymous]

But the people who hate lawnmowers" group won.

THen they moved on to leaf blowers.

Now they are moving onto ICE cars.

Then they will move onto BEV's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

I have a 6500 square foot house on a 25000 square foot yard and I want slower traffic on my street! In fact, I have achieved it via calming measures and the now nearly constant presence of police nabbing people for speeding and blowing through stop signs - and I LIVE IN DC! We didn’t have a ton of traffic in the first place but I will be damned if folks try to ignore the rules on my block.

Why do you need such a massive house? Do you have 3 generations of family living with you, or like 8 kids? Because unless you do, how can you justify such as large house for a regular size family???

Do you have any idea the amount of energy or electricity required to keep a house that size working? It’s literally 3 times larger than the average American home - which itself is much more consumptive than most homes in the rest of the world. Not too mention the whole privilege aspect of flaunting such wealth in a city where so many are barely scraping by.

You are the reason DC and most other coastal cities will be under water in our lifetimes.

Thanks a lot.

Not so fast bucko, I have an excellent idea. I built the house and we have a geothermal and solar mix. We also have a specifically planned garden and tree space. In the end, our carbon footprint is probably 1/100 of yours. Stop launching into attacks when YOU are likely the problem. Go find a mirror and deal with the person you see in it. And don’t speed!

Why would you spend your Friday evening posting lies on a parenting website?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

People who hate cars are like people who hate lawnmowers - it’s a small fringe-y group with nutty views.

Earlier this year a woman was killed by a pick-up truck trying to make the yellow light on our quiet residential street. Was she part of the fringe too? Speed kills.

[Anonymous]

We live near a slow street and now kids are always playing stickball in the street and the boy next door has set up a cute lemonade stand and we’ve met neighbors we’ve never met before.

Kidding!

No one uses the slow streets near us for anything but driving and parking their cars. It’s exactly the same as it was before except now there’s a big awful sign you have to drive around. I wish someone would do us a favor and steal the slow street signs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

I have a 6500 square foot house on a 25000 square foot yard and I want slower traffic on my street! In fact, I have achieved it via calming measures and the now nearly constant presence of police nabbing people for speeding and blowing through stop signs - and I LIVE IN DC! We didn’t have a ton of traffic in the first place but I will be damned if folks try to ignore the rules on my block.

Why do you need such a massive house? Do you have 3 generations of family living with you, or like 8 kids? Because unless you do, how can you justify such as large house for a regular size family???

Do you have any idea the amount of energy or electricity required to keep a house that size working? It’s literally 3 times larger than the average American home - which itself is much more consumptive than most homes in the rest of the world. Not too mention the whole privilege aspect of flaunting such wealth in a city where so many are barely scraping by.

You are the reason DC and most other coastal cities will be under water in our lifetimes.

Thanks a lot.

Not so fast bucko, I have an excellent idea. I built the house and we have a geothermal and solar mix. We also have a specifically planned garden and tree space. In the end, our carbon footprint is probably 1/100 of yours. Stop launching into attacks when YOU are likely the problem. Go find a mirror and deal with the person you see in it. And don’t speed!

I don’t care if it’s powered by magic and your garden has a skittles trees - you have a massive house, a house way bigger than you need - in a city where POC are living in tents underneath bridges.

Did you even consider taking part of your 25,000 sq foot lot and building a home for some of these *human beings* that have literally nothing? Or building a a smaller house and putting the rest of the money into helping a shelter?

Of course you didn’t. Because you’re scum.

You might not have a trump sign in your yard, but your home tells everyone all they need to know about you and who you support.

You know nothing and yet you spout off like that? Nothing and you think you have the right to conclude and condemn. You got called out for being entirely wrong once and are even more wrong on your second post.

You need serious help. Your prejudice and ignorance are frightening. Go do some charitable work (you can ride with me in my Tesla if you want to join me) write some checks to help those in need (You are probably already 7 figures behind me, let’s go selfish, get in the game) and please fix your outdated carbon consuming house, you are killing our planet.

Until then, be quiet, your faux concern means nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.

Most people in a technical 50% way, sure, but over a third of occupied DC housing units don't have an available car. Another 44% have only one car, which in a household of more than one person means someone is often getting around without a car. This is supported by the commuting data, with less than 40% of DC residents commuting by car. (All data from the ACS)

Efforts to shift the balance of how public space is used in favor of uses other than private cars isn't a niche interest in DC.

People who hate cars are like people who hate lawnmowers - it’s a small fringe-y group with nutty views.

Earlier this year a woman was killed by a pick-up truck trying to make the yellow light on our quiet residential street. Was she part of the fringe too? Speed kills.

The mortality rate difference between a car hitting a pedestrian at 30 MPH vs 23 MPH is significant. If everyone kept it below 20 in DC we would all be better off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live near a slow street and now kids are always playing stickball in the street and the boy next door has set up a cute lemonade stand and we’ve met neighbors we’ve never met before.

Kidding!

No one uses the slow streets near us for anything but driving and parking their cars. It’s exactly the same as it was before except now there’s a big awful sign you have to drive around. I wish someone would do us a favor and steal the slow street signs.

That's a shame. What is preventing people from using the streets for other, non-car purposes?