‘Slow Streets’ is stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 600,000 people who live in the city. There are 6.5 million people in the suburbs. We do need to worry about safety, but the convenience for the vast majority of people also needs to be considered.

No, people in DC do not have to sacrifice their safety so that people from Maryland or Virginia can save a few minutes when they drive in DC.

-Marylander

[Anonymous]

People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 600,000 people who live in the city. There are 6.5 million people in the suburbs. We do need to worry about safety, but the convenience for the vast majority of people also needs to be considered.

When the people in the suburbs pay DC taxes for using the roads they can have a voice. Also, gross that you think convenience and safety should be weighed the same

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why do people think that residents who want more safe places for all to walk, bike, play, etc hate cars? I own a car, I use it, I don't hate cars. But I also think that there is wayyyy too much space dedicated to cars and that slow streets (while very far from perfect) is a good start in the direction of reallocating some of the space to other uses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why would people from the suburbs be taking neighborhood cut throughs?

Why are we pissed at kids playing kickball again?

Wasn't this done as a "let's get people out of the house and give them a safe place to walk during COVID" idea.

This is not anti car. Nobody said "F the cars" it was about helping walkers.

You will get your road back. But you may have to look out for kickball players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why do people think that residents who want more safe places for all to walk, bike, play, etc hate cars? I own a car, I use it, I don't hate cars. But I also think that there is wayyyy too much space dedicated to cars and that slow streets (while very far from perfect) is a good start in the direction of reallocating some of the space to other uses.

I think we need more space for cars. Tear out the bike lanes, give us more parking spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why do people think that residents who want more safe places for all to walk, bike, play, etc hate cars? I own a car, I use it, I don't hate cars. But I also think that there is wayyyy too much space dedicated to cars and that slow streets (while very far from perfect) is a good start in the direction of reallocating some of the space to other uses.

Honestly some of these comments come from people who seem to identify so strongly with their cars that if they turned out to be from cars that had achieved limited sentience and started posting of their own accord there'd be no way to tell.

I drive. I don't need every single space everywhere to be open to my driving. It's not hard to share the road, including by having roads I'm not allowed to drive on at all. It's crazy that so many drivers can't see this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Why would people from the suburbs be taking neighborhood cut throughs?

Why are we pissed at kids playing kickball again?

Wasn't this done as a "let's get people out of the house and give them a safe place to walk during COVID" idea.

This is not anti car. Nobody said "F the cars" it was about helping walkers.

You will get your road back. But you may have to look out for kickball players.

I live near a bunch of slow streets. No one uses them for anything but driving and parking cars. Pretty sure that no child ever anywhere has used a slow street to play kickball.

[Anonymous]

I drive extra fast on slow streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I drive extra fast on slow streets.

Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I live near a bunch of slow streets. No one uses them for anything but driving and parking cars. Pretty sure that no child ever anywhere has used a slow street to play kickball.

Well, that's a shame. Maybe kids will start reclaiming the streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want children playing kickball in the street, move to the suburbs. Seriously, you’re in the wrong place. Do you think kids should be able to play in the streets of Manhattan? If you let your kids play in the street in DC, you should have your head examined.

I don’t understand this mentality of “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” A city and its government should be responsive to the different needs of its citizens. If some residents of a citizen want to advocate for bike lanes and some want to advocate for higher speed limits for cars so they can get to their destination, the result should reflect in some way what the citizens want and what helps the city grow. 50 years ago many circles were cut down to provide more car lanes- why didn’t the people who wanted that just move instead of trying to change the city to suit them?

People are free to lobby for whatever stupid thing they want. But if you want kids playing in the streets — and huge yards and you want to live in a McMansion — then you should move because city living isn’t for you.

I have a 6500 square foot house on a 25000 square foot yard and I want slower traffic on my street! In fact, I have achieved it via calming measures and the now nearly constant presence of police nabbing people for speeding and blowing through stop signs - and I LIVE IN DC! We didn’t have a ton of traffic in the first place but I will be damned if folks try to ignore the rules on my block.

Why do you need such a massive house? Do you have 3 generations of family living with you, or like 8 kids? Because unless you do, how can you justify such as large house for a regular size family???

Do you have any idea the amount of energy or electricity required to keep a house that size working? It’s literally 3 times larger than the average American home - which itself is much more consumptive than most homes in the rest of the world. Not too mention the whole privilege aspect of flaunting such wealth in a city where so many are barely scraping by.

You are the reason DC and most other coastal cities will be under water in our lifetimes.

Thanks a lot.

Not so fast bucko, I have an excellent idea. I built the house and we have a geothermal and solar mix. We also have a specifically planned garden and tree space. In the end, our carbon footprint is probably 1/100 of yours. Stop launching into attacks when YOU are likely the problem. Go find a mirror and deal with the person you see in it. And don’t speed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 600,000 people who live in the city. There are 6.5 million people in the suburbs. We do need to worry about safety, but the convenience for the vast majority of people also needs to be considered.

No, people in DC do not have to sacrifice their safety so that people from Maryland or Virginia can save a few minutes when they drive in DC.

-Marylander

Except we do. Every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who hate cars don’t seem to realize that they’re in the extreme minority.

The vast majority of people in DC have cars. And most people who don’t have cars don’t have them for non-car-hating reasons.

The only people who seem to hate cars are a very small number of young, able-bodied white people with apparently minimal responsibilities who want to impose their views on everyone else.

Yeah, somebody said that already, and it's just as incorrect this time as the last time.

There’s 400,000 cars registered in DC. Probably plenty more that aren’t registered. Most people here have cars.