ST Math

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Anonymous wrote:My child gets a "must do/may do" board and ST Math is on the "may do" side. After having used it twice this week, I decided I'd rather have her read or do a math workbook during her asynchronous time. She's doing all the required work and some of the optional work.


Must do for us and kid must keep track of time played.... he is at petals and other stuff that is supposed to be place value, but all different objects. I don’t get it, they can’t even move the objects to sort them so it is not getting at the skills kids need because it is too much to keep track of. He keeps saying he is “dying” and then starting over at the same level so he gives up and goes outside to play with the dog.


Wow, I don't think computer games should be required!! In your situation, I might bring this up with the principal and say you were hoping for real math instruction and not games.


These math games are not in lieu of real math instruction. They are in addition to. Actually, a replacement to math homework.


That's terrible!


That's ... not terrible. When the existing math homework is 0. Did you misread?

I would consider my kid have real math homework than have to play a stupid computer game that she's getting nothing out of.


The little kids don't get homework anymore. Some of the bigger kids don't get homework anymore either.

During DL, no kids get homework anymore.


You're quoting me and my kid absolutely gets homework during DL - they have choice boards.
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And this, my friends, is why my kid is opting out of ST math.
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My kid is a very analytical 4th grade AAP student - math is his favorite subject - and he loves ST Math. I just walked in and he was playing with the petals during morning meeting.

Not sure what to make of this but maybe he just likes mindless math work... I am the same way.
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Anonymous wrote:My child gets a "must do/may do" board and ST Math is on the "may do" side. After having used it twice this week, I decided I'd rather have her read or do a math workbook during her asynchronous time. She's doing all the required work and some of the optional work.


Must do for us and kid must keep track of time played.... he is at petals and other stuff that is supposed to be place value, but all different objects. I don’t get it, they can’t even move the objects to sort them so it is not getting at the skills kids need because it is too much to keep track of. He keeps saying he is “dying” and then starting over at the same level so he gives up and goes outside to play with the dog.


Wow, I don't think computer games should be required!! In your situation, I might bring this up with the principal and say you were hoping for real math instruction and not games.


These math games are not in lieu of real math instruction. They are in addition to. Actually, a replacement to math homework.


That's terrible!


That's ... not terrible. When the existing math homework is 0. Did you misread?

I would consider my kid have real math homework than have to play a stupid computer game that she's getting nothing out of.


The little kids don't get homework anymore. Some of the bigger kids don't get homework anymore either.

During DL, no kids get homework anymore.


You're quoting me and my kid absolutely gets homework during DL - they have choice boards.


LOL. Choice boards are not homework. Homework reinforces actual academic topics taught during class, and is graded and checked by a teacher.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid is a very analytical 4th grade AAP student - math is his favorite subject - and he loves ST Math. I just walked in and he was playing with the petals during morning meeting.

Not sure what to make of this but maybe he just likes mindless math work... I am the same way.


When he's still doing the petals three days from now, let us know how much he "loves" it.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is a very analytical 4th grade AAP student - math is his favorite subject - and he loves ST Math. I just walked in and he was playing with the petals during morning meeting.

Not sure what to make of this but maybe he just likes mindless math work... I am the same way.


When he's still doing the petals three days from now, let us know how much he "loves" it.


Mine started with "fun" but after days of petals is no longer heard and has been replaced with "Move faster, penguin!"
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My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.
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Anonymous wrote:My child gets a "must do/may do" board and ST Math is on the "may do" side. After having used it twice this week, I decided I'd rather have her read or do a math workbook during her asynchronous time. She's doing all the required work and some of the optional work.


Must do for us and kid must keep track of time played.... he is at petals and other stuff that is supposed to be place value, but all different objects. I don’t get it, they can’t even move the objects to sort them so it is not getting at the skills kids need because it is too much to keep track of. He keeps saying he is “dying” and then starting over at the same level so he gives up and goes outside to play with the dog.


Wow, I don't think computer games should be required!! In your situation, I might bring this up with the principal and say you were hoping for real math instruction and not games.


These math games are not in lieu of real math instruction. They are in addition to. Actually, a replacement to math homework.


That's terrible!


That's ... not terrible. When the existing math homework is 0. Did you misread?

I would consider my kid have real math homework than have to play a stupid computer game that she's getting nothing out of.


The little kids don't get homework anymore. Some of the bigger kids don't get homework anymore either.

During DL, no kids get homework anymore.


You're quoting me and my kid absolutely gets homework during DL - they have choice boards.


LOL. Choice boards are not homework. Homework reinforces actual academic topics taught during class, and is graded and checked by a teacher.


PP here - I called it a choice board, the teachers call it a task card. It is required (there are a few optional items), assignments are assigned points, and the teacher did provide feedback.

So LOL right back at you bitch.
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Anonymous wrote:My child gets a "must do/may do" board and ST Math is on the "may do" side. After having used it twice this week, I decided I'd rather have her read or do a math workbook during her asynchronous time. She's doing all the required work and some of the optional work.


Must do for us and kid must keep track of time played.... he is at petals and other stuff that is supposed to be place value, but all different objects. I don’t get it, they can’t even move the objects to sort them so it is not getting at the skills kids need because it is too much to keep track of. He keeps saying he is “dying” and then starting over at the same level so he gives up and goes outside to play with the dog.


Wow, I don't think computer games should be required!! In your situation, I might bring this up with the principal and say you were hoping for real math instruction and not games.


These math games are not in lieu of real math instruction. They are in addition to. Actually, a replacement to math homework.


That's terrible!


That's ... not terrible. When the existing math homework is 0. Did you misread?

I would consider my kid have real math homework than have to play a stupid computer game that she's getting nothing out of.


The little kids don't get homework anymore. Some of the bigger kids don't get homework anymore either.

During DL, no kids get homework anymore.


You're quoting me and my kid absolutely gets homework during DL - they have choice boards.


LOL. Choice boards are not homework. Homework reinforces actual academic topics taught during class, and is graded and checked by a teacher.


PP here - I called it a choice board, the teachers call it a task card. It is required (there are a few optional items), assignments are assigned points, and the teacher did provide feedback.

So LOL right back at you bitch.


DP. If it's Monday work, it's not homework, it's classwork.

More wine, less name calling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.


Not having any directions is by design. The kids are supposed to figure out what the program wants them to do. After 2 weeks of this, my 5th grader and friends are figuring out all the ways they'd like to watch Jiji die.
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Anonymous wrote:My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.


We had this experience too - I hate the lack of directions! I struggled to help my 1st grader figure out what to do because it was so poorly designed. We used dreambox last year and it was SO much better. I strongly dislike ST, and won't let my kid use it during choice time/asynch unless the teacher says we have to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.


We had this experience too - I hate the lack of directions! I struggled to help my 1st grader figure out what to do because it was so poorly designed. We used dreambox last year and it was SO much better. I strongly dislike ST, and won't let my kid use it during choice time/asynch unless the teacher says we have to.


I think it's a lot better than Dreambox, so teachers can't win with parents. And it doesn't need directions. Kids can figure it out.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.


We had this experience too - I hate the lack of directions! I struggled to help my 1st grader figure out what to do because it was so poorly designed. We used dreambox last year and it was SO much better. I strongly dislike ST, and won't let my kid use it during choice time/asynch unless the teacher says we have to.


I think it's a lot better than Dreambox, so teachers can't win with parents. And it doesn't need directions. Kids can figure it out.


Here's what I've found. Kids eventually figure out how to get through the game. The problem is that if they're asked what they learned, they can't articulate anything that's even remotely related to what they're supposed to learn. Mostly, what they've learned is to manipulate objects to get through the game, and not a darn thing beyond that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD stated using ST Math today. She was working on it while I preparing lunch for her. It is strange that ST Math does not have any directions? She failed at one problem twice, i think, and have to start from the beginning. She finally solved this problem and solved several other problems. Then unfortunately, somehow she had to start over again. I am confused seeing her repeating the problems she already did correctly. This thing does not make sense.


We had this experience too - I hate the lack of directions! I struggled to help my 1st grader figure out what to do because it was so poorly designed. We used dreambox last year and it was SO much better. I strongly dislike ST, and won't let my kid use it during choice time/asynch unless the teacher says we have to.


I think it's a lot better than Dreambox, so teachers can't win with parents. And it doesn't need directions. Kids can figure it out.


Here's what I've found. Kids eventually figure out how to get through the game. The problem is that if they're asked what they learned, they can't articulate anything that's even remotely related to what they're supposed to learn. Mostly, what they've learned is to manipulate objects to get through the game, and not a darn thing beyond that.


Those are spatial skills. Hence the name.
Anonymous
One of the PPs reporting back from last week. Kid still on petals. Kid still likes the petals. No complaints.
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