Completely polarized politically - can we last?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.

However November goes, at least close to half of the people voting, will be voting for Trump. If you really think they are all "scum," you're delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.

However November goes, at least close to half of the people voting, will be voting for Trump. If you really think they are all "scum," you're delusional.

No I have a firm grasp on reality which is why I can say anyone who votes for Trump is scum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.

However November goes, at least close to half of the people voting, will be voting for Trump. If you really think they are all "scum," you're delusional.

No I have a firm grasp on reality which is why I can say anyone who votes for Trump is scum.

I'm sorry you have lost perspective to this extent. It can't be pleasant. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.

However November goes, at least close to half of the people voting, will be voting for Trump. If you really think they are all "scum," you're delusional.

No I have a firm grasp on reality which is why I can say anyone who votes for Trump is scum.

I'm sorry you have lost perspective to this extent. It can't be pleasant. Good luck.

It's quite pleasant actually. Good luck with your life, actually good luck with your soul.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.

However November goes, at least close to half of the people voting, will be voting for Trump. If you really think they are all "scum," you're delusional.

No I have a firm grasp on reality which is why I can say anyone who votes for Trump is scum.

I'm sorry you have lost perspective to this extent. It can't be pleasant. Good luck.

It's quite pleasant actually. Good luck with your life, actually good luck with your soul.

Dramatic much?

[Anonymous]

Yeah it is Trump’s fault...sexless marriages, destroying family relationships, divorce, hating in-laws, not liking friends etc.

Get a life people. You are ruining your own family and life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

All that gibberish just say racism isn't that big of a deal to you, and you're fine with your partner supporting a racist.

My partner hates him as much as I do. But I do know several Trump supporters who aren't actually racists. They have some weird conspiratorial issues with the "Democrat Party" and "Nancy Pelosi" and "SOCIALISM" and "but the dead babies" and "Law and Order". They believe the narrative that there are people out there who don't want to work and just want to take money from others because they're lazy -- black, white, or brown. They don't actually understand what Black Lives Matter means, and they attribute it back to "political correctness" and are afraid of violence. They don't understand geo-politics. They don't understand how the economic models have changed from 40 years ago when advancing the interest of an American corporation would actually result in investment in and benefits for American workers and not today when the corporation's first responsibility is to its shareholders and making short term profits. (Do people actually realize that investing in a company's stock doesn't actually support a company unless its the IPO?) I am far more concerned if my partner doesn't understand fascism when they see it. And there is so much gentle racism on this board anyway --" Don't put your kids in South Arlington Schools! How do I avoid non-W schools! No one actually wants to live in PG County!"

NP. I actually think you summed it up pretty well, but why don't you think the bolded part is akin to racism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people internalize this stuff so much? I am a leftist with conservative friends. Just don’t go there. There are a million other things to discuss.

Liberals don't call themselves leftist. We see you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel you, OP. I am in the exact same situation. I honestly would de-friend my husband on FB and never speak to him again, much less have a second date with him, if we were not married with an elementary age child.

I actually saw two divorce lawyers the week before we went into lockdown for COVID. Put separation thoughts on hold b/c...pandemic... but I don’t know how we are going to last through November. 2016 was bad enough. I have no respect for him whatsoever in terms of his world view and values. None. I hate that we are raining a child together. And frankly, because he’s. Really rageful angry white guy who has gotten further radicalized by other angry white guys online, he scares me. And he’s armed. It’s all horrible.

I'm in the same exact situation. Its been hell.

[Anonymous]

OP here with an update - I don't know that a Biden landslide win would have helped but this current situation certainly has not. He's headed to a voting fraud type rally/protest tomorrow.

He didn't want to tell me where he was going and I was like, we've been married almost 20 years I think I should at least know where you are going. He was super defensive and it didn't go well from there. After a bunch of interruptions, accusations, and putting of words into my mouth I did manage to inject that while I recognize that we are on vastly different pages I was not asking because I didn't want him to go.

Won't even go into the rest. He's supposed to move for a job soon. I'm not sure I will be following. It's just too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here with an update - I don't know that a Biden landslide win would have helped but this current situation certainly has not. He's headed to a voting fraud type rally/protest tomorrow.

He didn't want to tell me where he was going and I was like, we've been married almost 20 years I think I should at least know where you are going. He was super defensive and it didn't go well from there. After a bunch of interruptions, accusations, and putting of words into my mouth I did manage to inject that while I recognize that we are on vastly different pages I was not asking because I didn't want him to go.

Won't even go into the rest. He's supposed to move for a job soon. I'm not sure I will be following. It's just too much.

^^Should add that he specifically "asked" me b/c kids will be here for DL tomorrow and he wanted me to know that he wouldn't be home. So I guess at least there's that. Kids can be on their own so that's not a huge deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people internalize this stuff so much? I am a leftist with conservative friends. Just don’t go there. There are a million other things to discuss.

+100

Stop whining. Talk about other things. Do other things. Keep yourselves busy and living your lives. Or if you can't stop dwelling on this, get a lot of therapy.

But mostly, stop whining.

Only a racist Trumper can say that. Sorry OP. This is not a difference of opinion regarding politics. Trump is evil like Hitler.

I am against an open border and want an immigration policy like Canada and Trump was the only one who talked about a border wall. But, he is so evil and corrupt that I did not vote for him in 2016 and this time around. He is a domestic terrorist and has dessimated America. What can you do? As a wife there are a million ways you can make his and his families life miserable. Though - bitter almonds come to mind/(joking)

[Anonymous]

No. You are already over. If you have options to leave you would have, but you are still over. You know that he is evil and you are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah it is Trump’s fault...sexless marriages, destroying family relationships, divorce, hating in-laws, not liking friends etc.

Get a life people. You are ruining your own family and life.

+1000 I am a moderate democrat who has never voted for a republican - and I'm in my fifties. I grew up in a republican family. I am married to a progressive. My friends are mostly slightly left of me, though I have some republican friends too.

You should have either figured out your values before you got married, or you should have learned how to live with your differences.

When you hit your fifties, you realize that most of this is DRAMA. If you are at peace with yourself and your values, and you choose to spend time with others with similar values, you have a lot more tolerance for differences.