Completely polarized politically - can we last?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put it aside for a second, and consider how he treats you and others: is he kind? Generous? A hard worker? Trustworthy? Funny? Fun to be with? Sexually compatible?

There will be posters who say a Trump supporter can’t have any of these qualities, but they can and they do. They’re not ALL crazy weirdos.

I have married a trump supporter. He hates dems and believes all the conspiracy theories. But he is an excellent dad and partner and adorable otherwise. He is libertarian so views things differently. I try to avoid arguments, but he is pol junkie. I hope we last. He takes politics very personally.

My mom is sweet, kind, good with children (teacher)... but damn she hates black people, has no problem talking about it “just to me”.

Is she a good person?

PP here- my Trump supporting husband is anything but racist.

[Anonymous]

Consider this a wake up call to the next chapter in life whether it be together, alone or with someone new. Can you imagine what your life would be like 10-15 -20 years from now. Are you happy? DS likely won’t change. Is he older and old school? Does he treat you like an equal? Are strong finances driving his conservative support? Would it be different if finances were tanking? Would he still have the same viewpoints?

I’d have a problem with supporting someone who supports outright liars, disregards pandemic and human lives, disrespects women, is taking away our rights, is damaging our planet through mining, oil drilling and loosening environmental standards. Gaslighting racial tensions and supremacy supporter. Ballooning national debt.

How is DH influencing your children? Hope you don’t have a son who models after this. You sound like a reverse KellyAnne Conway household. Google how their daughter Claudia has reacted if you haven’t heard.

I think this situation is happening across many households not just yours. Talk to everyone about voting early so we don’t have 4 more years of this and be even worst off as a nation.

[Anonymous]

I don't know why you would want to continue to be married to someone so ignorant.

[Anonymous]

I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put it aside for a second, and consider how he treats you and others: is he kind? Generous? A hard worker? Trustworthy? Funny? Fun to be with? Sexually compatible?

There will be posters who say a Trump supporter can’t have any of these qualities, but they can and they do. They’re not ALL crazy weirdos.

I have married a trump supporter. He hates dems and believes all the conspiracy theories. But he is an excellent dad and partner and adorable otherwise. He is libertarian so views things differently. I try to avoid arguments, but he is pol junkie. I hope we last. He takes politics very personally.

My mom is sweet, kind, good with children (teacher)... but damn she hates black people, has no problem talking about it “just to me”.

Is she a good person?

PP here- my Trump supporting husband is anything but racist.

So why is he comfortable supporting a racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

At least you were honest with yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people internalize this stuff so much? I am a leftist with conservative friends. Just don’t go there. There are a million other things to discuss.

Perhaps she doesn't want to be attached for life to a racist bigot? Just throwing that out there.

It can become personal. How would that husband react if your child wanted to date or marry someone of a different race or become a lawyer helping undocumented immigrants? If daughter turns out to be gay, etc.?

[Anonymous]

I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

All that gibberish just say racism isn't that big of a deal to you, and you're fine with your partner supporting a racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do people internalize this stuff so much? I am a leftist with conservative friends. Just don’t go there. There are a million other things to discuss.

Perhaps she doesn't want to be attached for life to a racist bigot? Just throwing that out there.

It can become personal. How would that husband react if your child wanted to date or marry someone of a different race or become a lawyer helping undocumented immigrants? If daughter turns out to be gay, etc.?

They'll pretend to be shocked they didn't know their husband was a bigot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

All that gibberish just say racism isn't that big of a deal to you, and you're fine with your partner supporting a racist.

My partner hates him as much as I do. But I do know several Trump supporters who aren't actually racists. They have some weird conspiratorial issues with the "Democrat Party" and "Nancy Pelosi" and "SOCIALISM" and "but the dead babies" and "Law and Order". They believe the narrative that there are people out there who don't want to work and just want to take money from others because they're lazy -- black, white, or brown. They don't actually understand what Black Lives Matter means, and they attribute it back to "political correctness" and are afraid of violence. They don't understand geo-politics. They don't understand how the economic models have changed from 40 years ago when advancing the interest of an American corporation would actually result in investment in and benefits for American workers and not today when the corporation's first responsibility is to its shareholders and making short term profits. (Do people actually realize that investing in a company's stock doesn't actually support a company unless its the IPO?) I am far more concerned if my partner doesn't understand fascism when they see it. And there is so much gentle racism on this board anyway --" Don't put your kids in South Arlington Schools! How do I avoid non-W schools! No one actually wants to live in PG County!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

All that gibberish just say racism isn't that big of a deal to you, and you're fine with your partner supporting a racist.

My partner hates him as much as I do. But I do know several Trump supporters who aren't actually racists. They have some weird conspiratorial issues with the "Democrat Party" and "Nancy Pelosi" and "SOCIALISM" and "but the dead babies" and "Law and Order". They believe the narrative that there are people out there who don't want to work and just want to take money from others because they're lazy -- black, white, or brown. They don't actually understand what Black Lives Matter means, and they attribute it back to "political correctness" and are afraid of violence. They don't understand geo-politics. They don't understand how the economic models have changed from 40 years ago when advancing the interest of an American corporation would actually result in investment in and benefits for American workers and not today when the corporation's first responsibility is to its shareholders and making short term profits. (Do people actually realize that investing in a company's stock doesn't actually support a company unless its the IPO?) I am far more concerned if my partner doesn't understand fascism when they see it. And there is so much gentle racism on this board anyway --" Don't put your kids in South Arlington Schools! How do I avoid non-W schools! No one actually wants to live in PG County!"

Racism isn't a big deal to you. You tolerate it in yoursself, your spouse, and your friends. It's just a political difference to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to start by saying that I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and think he's a stain on this country and the major contributing factor to the current state of the US civil discourse.

However, I am sick to death of the knee jerk reaction here being "but, racist" as if that's the be-all and end-all to his issues and an open and all that is needed to divorce someone. It's not actually on my top three reasons why he sucks and why he's bad for the country. He's not even a conscious racist -- he's a petty narcissistic moron who doesn't even understand optics or subtext. He doesn't have the mental capacity to do something for the good of anyone but himself, and his understanding of what is good for himself is very basic. He wants to be a king, and only because he can sit and sh*t on on a gold throne. He doesn't understand international and interpersonal dynamics, so he has destroyed US credibility around the world and our ability to do the things that we normally do so well. He doesn't actually care about the needs of anyone, let alone minorities. The only people who seem to like him overlap heavily (but not entirely) with white people (and in particular white males) who feel like life has done them wrong, so he says the things that makes his fans happy. He has infantile images of what "strong" means, so as long as someone is banging heads together in his name, he feels good. He's willing to let the nation burn if he can have happy rallies.

That's the kind of evil I couldn't support in a partner. If you can't see that you are willfully blind and ignorant. I could live with a George Conway, but not a Kellyanne.

All that gibberish just say racism isn't that big of a deal to you, and you're fine with your partner supporting a racist.

My partner hates him as much as I do. But I do know several Trump supporters who aren't actually racists. They have some weird conspiratorial issues with the "Democrat Party" and "Nancy Pelosi" and "SOCIALISM" and "but the dead babies" and "Law and Order". They believe the narrative that there are people out there who don't want to work and just want to take money from others because they're lazy -- black, white, or brown. They don't actually understand what Black Lives Matter means, and they attribute it back to "political correctness" and are afraid of violence. They don't understand geo-politics. They don't understand how the economic models have changed from 40 years ago when advancing the interest of an American corporation would actually result in investment in and benefits for American workers and not today when the corporation's first responsibility is to its shareholders and making short term profits. (Do people actually realize that investing in a company's stock doesn't actually support a company unless its the IPO?) I am far more concerned if my partner doesn't understand fascism when they see it. And there is so much gentle racism on this board anyway --" Don't put your kids in South Arlington Schools! How do I avoid non-W schools! No one actually wants to live in PG County!"

It’s amazing how enlightened you are and these other people “don’t understand” so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I moved out after my husband of 47 years voted for Trump. If he supports a racist misogynist, I don’t want to live with him any longer. Has worked well for me.

That’s really really sad .

It's sad it took her nearly 50 years to realize she was married to scum.