This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

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Anonymous wrote:Houston is at capacity according to Houston. That is the 4th largest metro area in the United States. it doesn't matter if there are open beds in Midland or Waco.

That is not true.
An article from yesterday......

Healthcare CEOs of the Texas Medical Center said Thursday that a letter that was sent out to the community Wednesday regarding the hospital system's "increasingly stretched" ICU capacity level was "misinterpreted" and stressed the pandemic is not eclipsing hospital capabilities to care for COVID-19 positive patients as well as other patients.
Following reports that TMC had reached 97 percent capacity, Dr. Marc Boom, Houston Methodist president and CEO, said ICU capacity percentages in the 80s or 90s is "completely normal."

"We have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds we can utilize for COVID-19 patients," Boom said during a press conference. "...We have PPE (personal protection equipment) we have the capability, (and) we have learned enormous amounts about caring for people with COVID-19."
Dr. Doug Lawson, St. Luke’s Health CEO, said hospitals are actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming months, which includes bringing in contract nurses and clinicians from other parts of the country to help with surges and doubling critical care capacity.

"The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day to day, week to week, month to month basis," Lawson said.
Boom said overall, hospitals are seeing younger COVID-19 patients, who stay for a shorter period of time, and fewer deaths. Thanks to active surveillance programs and quick turnaround testing times, Boom and Mark Wallace, Texas Children’s Hospital president and CEO, said a "relatively low number" of hospital employees have tested positive for the virus. Texas Children's started accepting adult COVID-19 positive patients this week and is currently operating at a 74 percent ICU occupancy, Wallace said.

https://www.chron.com/houston/article/TMC-leaders-Despite-rising-COVID-19-cases-15366132.php

As you were saying?

Thanks Houston protesters!

There’s been no spike from protests. If there had been we would have seen one in New York, and we haven’t.

“For more than two months, the authorities had been urging New Yorkers to stay indoors and keep their distance from others. But after the police killed George Floyd in Minneapolis, tens of thousands of New Yorkers poured into the streets, day and night, to protest police brutality and racism.

Epidemiologists braced for a surge of new coronavirus cases. But it has not come yet.

On May 27, the day before the protests began in New York City, some 754 Covid-19 cases were diagnosed, according to the city’s Department of Health. That was the last time the city recorded more than 700 cases on a single day.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-protests.html?smid=fb-share

+1 There were protests all over the country, but we are only seeing spikes in certain states. It's not the protest. It's the bars and people flouting distancing and wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

Arizona is now worse than Italy at its peak.

So totally preventable and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing fishy about this

Problem solved!

Rs love ignorance it seems.

Actually ignorance is personified by the Ds who refuse to ask whether patients have attended protests. De Blasio started that idiocy and it looks like it's moved south. Wouldn't want anyone to know that the protests actually did spread coronavirus!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Houston is at capacity according to Houston. That is the 4th largest metro area in the United States. it doesn't matter if there are open beds in Midland or Waco.

That is not true.
An article from yesterday......

Healthcare CEOs of the Texas Medical Center said Thursday that a letter that was sent out to the community Wednesday regarding the hospital system's "increasingly stretched" ICU capacity level was "misinterpreted" and stressed the pandemic is not eclipsing hospital capabilities to care for COVID-19 positive patients as well as other patients.
Following reports that TMC had reached 97 percent capacity, Dr. Marc Boom, Houston Methodist president and CEO, said ICU capacity percentages in the 80s or 90s is "completely normal."

"We have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds we can utilize for COVID-19 patients," Boom said during a press conference. "...We have PPE (personal protection equipment) we have the capability, (and) we have learned enormous amounts about caring for people with COVID-19."
Dr. Doug Lawson, St. Luke’s Health CEO, said hospitals are actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming months, which includes bringing in contract nurses and clinicians from other parts of the country to help with surges and doubling critical care capacity.

"The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day to day, week to week, month to month basis," Lawson said.
Boom said overall, hospitals are seeing younger COVID-19 patients, who stay for a shorter period of time, and fewer deaths. Thanks to active surveillance programs and quick turnaround testing times, Boom and Mark Wallace, Texas Children’s Hospital president and CEO, said a "relatively low number" of hospital employees have tested positive for the virus. Texas Children's started accepting adult COVID-19 positive patients this week and is currently operating at a 74 percent ICU occupancy, Wallace said.

https://www.chron.com/houston/article/TMC-leaders-Despite-rising-COVID-19-cases-15366132.php

As you were saying?

Thanks Houston protesters!

There’s been no spike from protests. If there had been we would have seen one in New York, and we haven’t.

“For more than two months, the authorities had been urging New Yorkers to stay indoors and keep their distance from others. But after the police killed George Floyd in Minneapolis, tens of thousands of New Yorkers poured into the streets, day and night, to protest police brutality and racism.

Epidemiologists braced for a surge of new coronavirus cases. But it has not come yet.

On May 27, the day before the protests began in New York City, some 754 Covid-19 cases were diagnosed, according to the city’s Department of Health. That was the last time the city recorded more than 700 cases on a single day.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-protests.html?smid=fb-share

Gosh, that couldn't possibly be because De Blasio *specifically* forbade contact-tracers from asking if covid patients had attended BLM protests?!

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https://news.yahoo.com/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

New York City’s coronavirus contact-tracing force are not asking those who test positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a Black Lives Matter demonstration, a city spokesperson confirmed.

New York City officials have taken a soft stance over fears that mass protests could lead to a spike in coronavirus cases. “Let’s be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don’t blame the protesters. Blame racism,” Mark Levine, head of the city council’s health committee, tweeted earlier this month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing fishy about this

Problem solved!

Rs love ignorance it seems.

Actually ignorance is personified by the Ds who refuse to ask whether patients have attended protests. De Blasio started that idiocy and it looks like it's moved south. Wouldn't want anyone to know that the protests actually did spread coronavirus!

You think the protestors from NYC moved south to infect TX and FL, and that's where the increase in numbers came from? LOL That's not what the governors of FL and TX believe. They closed down the bars for a reason.

Rs don't want contact tracing because it's "none of your business". That's what the R who founded "open up MD" said when he got the virus.


Rs have the "ignorance is bliss" mentality. "If we don't test, the numbers will go down". Now, *that* personifies the saying, "ignorance is bliss".

BTW, I think deBlasio is a fool. But Trump and Desantis are bigger fools.

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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

New York City’s coronavirus contact-tracing force are not asking those who test positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a Black Lives Matter demonstration, a city spokesperson confirmed.

New York City officials have taken a soft stance over fears that mass protests could lead to a spike in coronavirus cases. “Let’s be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don’t blame the protesters. Blame racism,” Mark Levine, head of the city council’s health committee, tweeted earlier this month.

Rs would say, "mind your own business".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/reopen-maryland-coronavirus-walters/2020/06/26/677caa02-b7b7-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html

He said he expected to receive a call from county health officials for information about his contacts but added: “I will not share anybody’s information with the government. I will not do it.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing fishy about this

Problem solved!

Rs love ignorance it seems.

Actually ignorance is personified by the Ds who refuse to ask whether patients have attended protests. De Blasio started that idiocy and it looks like it's moved south. Wouldn't want anyone to know that the protests actually did spread coronavirus!

You think the protestors from NYC moved south to infect TX and FL, and that's where the increase in numbers came from? LOL That's not what the governors of FL and TX believe. They closed down the bars for a reason.

Rs don't want contact tracing because it's "none of your business". That's what the R who founded "open up MD" said when he got the virus.


Rs have the "ignorance is bliss" mentality. "If we don't test, the numbers will go down". Now, *that* personifies the saying, "ignorance is bliss".

BTW, I think deBlasio is a fool. But Trump and Desantis are bigger fools.

Re: the bolded, no - that's not what I meant. I meant De Blasio started the nonsense of not asking whether covid patients had been at protests, and now the southern governors are doing the same thing. I agree that obviously opening bars and restaurants helped spread the virus. But what's not being reported is the overlap in people who attended the protests AND went to bars/restaurants. Because no one wants to admit that the protests *also* were huge spreading events. I'd call that "ignorance is bliss".

"Lawmakers and health officials have suggested it has to do with younger demographics heading to bars and not practicing social distancing. However, Orange County health official Pino said he doesn’t “think that’s a coincidence” that the numbers have increased roughly two weeks after the protests started."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-doctors-arent-asking-coronavirus-patients-if-they-took-part-in-protests-health-official-says

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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

New York City’s coronavirus contact-tracing force are not asking those who test positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a Black Lives Matter demonstration, a city spokesperson confirmed.

New York City officials have taken a soft stance over fears that mass protests could lead to a spike in coronavirus cases. “Let’s be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don’t blame the protesters. Blame racism,” Mark Levine, head of the city council’s health committee, tweeted earlier this month.

It's irrelevant. Is there a spike in cases in NYC? No? Then any cases now are consistent with the status quo and not because of the protests.

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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

New York City’s coronavirus contact-tracing force are not asking those who test positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a Black Lives Matter demonstration, a city spokesperson confirmed.

New York City officials have taken a soft stance over fears that mass protests could lead to a spike in coronavirus cases. “Let’s be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don’t blame the protesters. Blame racism,” Mark Levine, head of the city council’s health committee, tweeted earlier this month.

It's irrelevant. Is there a spike in cases in NYC? No? Then any cases now are consistent with the status quo and not because of the protests.

I am really hopeful that the protests did not bring around a spike in covid cases. And the data does look good so far. That being said, I think it’s too early to say for sure. This virus is not predictable and we will see.

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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

New York City’s coronavirus contact-tracing force are not asking those who test positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a Black Lives Matter demonstration, a city spokesperson confirmed.

New York City officials have taken a soft stance over fears that mass protests could lead to a spike in coronavirus cases. “Let’s be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don’t blame the protesters. Blame racism,” Mark Levine, head of the city council’s health committee, tweeted earlier this month.

It's irrelevant. Is there a spike in cases in NYC? No? Then any cases now are consistent with the status quo and not because of the protests.

I am really hopeful that the protests did not bring around a spike in covid cases. And the data does look good so far. That being said, I think it’s too early to say for sure. This virus is not predictable and we will see.

A pretty declarative headline from a well-respected publication. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/30/black-lives-matter-protests-did-not-cause-an-uptick-in-covid-19-cases

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Anonymous wrote:If you look around the US, where are the deaths?

Let's look at the top 20 states in terms of deaths per 100k people.

LA, MI, PA. IN, GA, and MS.

Infection rates?

LA, MI, PA, SD, GA, IN, and MS.

Now maybe the governors of TN/SC/GA/FL opening too soon might lead to more outbreaks like the one around Albany NY or Rapid City SD, but as of now? It's the red states doing better on average.

TX is barely getting hit, with an infection rate 1/4 that of the national average and a death rate 1/10th the national average.

FL? Infection rate about half and a death rate about a third.

GA? Infection rate about two-thirds and a death rate about half.

What will the rejoinder be if TN, FL, GA, and SC re-open without massive amounts of illness and death by the end of May?

I mean I'm smart enough to realize it's the 2nd or 3rd inning of a 9 inning game, but come on, facts are facts right now. The red states are just doing better now.

I'm tired of hearing what a great job Governor Cuomo is doing. From where I can see it, he's presiding over infection rates TWICE that of Lombardy, and death rates that are approaching Lombardy. THAT's the model of our response right now?

I'd rather hear from Inslee, Newsome, or Brown (Oregon Gov). They seem to, well, actually be succeeding. The Northeast - and I include Maryland in this - needs to just stop telling red states what to do. They've failed to stop the virus, and to stop the deaths. Maybe the governors of MN or NM, too, they seem to be leading a decent blue state response to this virus.

This virus isn't some liberal avenger, punishing the dumb Trumpies for their dumb choices.

Either from density or from dumb luck, the blue states are getting slammed and the red states getting spared.

If it's density, maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

Oh man, this is delicious. Yum, yum, yum.

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Anonymous wrote:note how all of the sudden, Fox News and GOP politicians including McConnell, are urging people to wear masks.

I actually see this as a sign that the Republicans are breaking with Trump. Perhaps they feel more confident than I do that Trump is going to lose in November.

Trump is not out of this thing. I hate that he isn't. But he's got foreign assistance, the power of the WH, BLM overreach, etc. He's not out. The man is a master of survival. Maybe nothing else, but he's a survivor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing fishy about this

Problem solved!

Rs love ignorance it seems.

Actually ignorance is personified by the Ds who refuse to ask whether patients have attended protests. De Blasio started that idiocy and it looks like it's moved south. Wouldn't want anyone to know that the protests actually did spread coronavirus!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/new-york-coronavirus-cases.html
GOLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY lookit that spike of cases in New York!

Oh, wait. No spike.

[Anonymous]

So predictable. When this started, most Americans and media were alarmed. Then when it became clear the virus hit Black and Brown communities at a much higher rate (meaning it didn't impact whites as much) we got the armed “Open Up” militias. Now that it’s hitting red states, Rs are like, “wear a mask.”