Why don't people want to go to tj just because there are "too many" asians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

One of the standard arguments from the TJ crowd is that it's jealous whites who want to shut down TJ as a magnet and that they'd have no problem if the school was 70% white vs. 70% Asian.

This ignores the fact that the NAACP has filed the complaints about AAP policies and TJ submitted with the Department of Education. And if you look at who has taken the lead in challenging the admissions practices at NYC's selective magnet schools, it's a Hispanic school chancellor.

The local Asians are just as eager to protect their privileges as whites in Fairfax County have ever been.

Duh! What would you expect? No one willingly give up their privilege. Everyone fights FOR privilege. Look at the Harvard BS. They actively discriminate against Asians. I don't see anyone rolling up their sleeves to fight against that machine.. Everyone justifies it in the name of "holistic" admissions, admitting idiots in the name of athletics and other bullcrap. How about someone fighting WITH the Asians on that one?

TJ values highly prepped student while Harvard doesn't see the value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The last few posts explain why TJ’s days as a magnet are numbered. Who really wants to go to bat to defend a school that some think they uniquely deserve and from which other minorities should be excluded because they can always work as low-paid security guards? Surprised they didn’t complain about how few Asians are working as house cleaners and in meat processing plants.

TJ needs to be shutdown now!

NBA needs to be shutdown now!n
Prisons need to be shutdown now! Oh wait ooops....

This post is ironic given Op's sentiment that people shouldn't be placed in a box based on race. It also fully demonstrates my Asian friends' parents' racist sentiment towards blacks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few posts explain why TJ’s days as a magnet are numbered. Who really wants to go to bat to defend a school that some think they uniquely deserve and from which other minorities should be excluded because they can always work as low-paid security guards? Surprised they didn’t complain about how few Asians are working as house cleaners and in meat processing plants.

TJ needs to be shutdown now!

NBA needs to be shutdown now!n
Prisons need to be shutdown now! Oh wait ooops....

This post is ironic given Op's sentiment that people shouldn't be placed in a box based on race. It also fully demonstrates my Asian friends' parents' racist sentiment towards blacks.

TJ needs to be shutdown now because there are too many Asians. Is this based on race? Why it's okay to hate on Asians, but not the other way around?

[Anonymous]

TJ needs to be more representative of FC demographics. Right now it has white flight and cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ needs to be more representative of FC demographics. Right now it has white flight and cheating.

Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:White people should go back to fixing toilets and roof but I think the Hispanic do that better now

Why the snark? As an Asian parent, let me tell you this.. no other country in the world is as welcoming as America to immigrants.. and it's the white people that made it that way. If the non-whites had their way, most would shut and lock the doors behind them so no one else comes in! I've interacted with enough Asians, blacks, Hispanics and Indians to know this.

And only whites are gullible enough to defend the endless diversity...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

[Anonymous]

I think the problem is not TJ; the problem is that it’s either TJ or mediocrity in terms of education. There should be more TJ-like schools, so that there is enough first class public education for everyone (the same stands for remedial... but usually a school can cater to only one group, sadly).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is not TJ; the problem is that it’s either TJ or mediocrity in terms of education. There should be more TJ-like schools, so that there is enough first class public education for everyone (the same stands for remedial... but usually a school can cater to only one group, sadly).

The top track at McLean high or Langley doesn’t seem easy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

Why is it that when a white person is smart and exceptional, it is innate and respected; whereas, when an Asian person is smart and exceptional, the assumption is they're prepped and unimaginative robots? Some people are such prejudiced racists. Sometimes I wish we could all just be with our own kind so that we won't have to deal with the pain of this kind of thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

Why is it that when a white person is smart and exceptional, it is innate and respected; whereas, when an Asian person is smart and exceptional, the assumption is they're prepped and unimaginative robots? Some people are such prejudiced racists. Sometimes I wish we could all just be with our own kind so that we won't have to deal with the pain of this kind of thinking.

+1

There are plenty of brilliant Asians. They don't get the recognition. White Americans believe they are special and therefore better, but look at the stay at home protesters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

Why is it that when a white person is smart and exceptional, it is innate and respected; whereas, when an Asian person is smart and exceptional, the assumption is they're prepped and unimaginative robots? Some people are such prejudiced racists. Sometimes I wish we could all just be with our own kind so that we won't have to deal with the pain of this kind of thinking.

+1

There are plenty of brilliant Asians. They don't get the recognition. White Americans believe they are special and therefore better, but look at the stay at home protesters.

DP, but it seems you are overlooking the TJ person who just asserted any FCPS high school that isn't 70%-Asian TJ must be "mediocre." Talk about a "special snowflake" mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree.

If you let Asians make America according to their culture... Indians create an incredible level of corruption because for them it’s all about connections and giving contracts to nephews and cousins. They only hire Indians first.

Chinese culture is to copy and steal intellectual property to try to profit from it. So they would not invent anything, instead steal each other’s ideas and businesses secrets while making crap.

All immigrants desperately want their kids to do well so they tiger parent them to get into Harvard and become a doctor or an engineer. That’s why there are so many Asian doctors - lack of imagination.

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

True!
And I say this as an immigrant. If “my people” ran this country, we would get exactly what I left behind!

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

Why is it that when a white person is smart and exceptional, it is innate and respected; whereas, when an Asian person is smart and exceptional, the assumption is they're prepped and unimaginative robots? Some people are such prejudiced racists. Sometimes I wish we could all just be with our own kind so that we won't have to deal with the pain of this kind of thinking.

Because many affluent whites believe they should have more privilege due to their status without putting in work and effort. Apparently, living with 1-2 generations of affluence made them forget that their grandparents had to work hard to become successful. And so they think that since they're in the UMC or higher, they should mostly just get a free pass on life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The real game changers were brought up in different culture. People like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Sergey Brin were not valedictorians with perfect SAR scores.

For the gazillionth, Bill gates got 1550+ on the sat and Steve Jobs got a pretty high score too. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg (who also got excellent scores) came from pretty affluent families.

Why is it that when a white person is smart and exceptional, it is innate and respected; whereas, when an Asian person is smart and exceptional, the assumption is they're prepped and unimaginative robots? Some people are such prejudiced racists. Sometimes I wish we could all just be with our own kind so that we won't have to deal with the pain of this kind of thinking.

Because many affluent whites believe they should have more privilege due to their status without putting in work and effort. Apparently, living with 1-2 generations of affluence made them forget that their grandparents had to work hard to become successful. And so they think that since they're in the UMC or higher, they should mostly just get a free pass on life.

Jobs, Brin and Gates are no different from the TJ kids. Jobs was building lasers in High Schools when no one had even heard of them. Sergei Brin was a "normal" immigrant kid, no different from anyone at TJ. UMDCP (Math & CS!) and on to Stanford. He would have likely gone to TJ if they lived in VA. Bill Gates had rich parents who started a computer club at his school and bought the computer for that school. He was also a National Merit Scholar (so were Jeff Bezos and Steve Ballmer). What's so different about them compared to the kids going to TJ? Are you trying to compare them to TJ alum from around the same time? In that case, you are comparing them to a mostly White cohort. Wait another 20 years to compare them to an Asian cohort.

Where everyone drops the ball (in every country) is how they address opportunity for the under-represented. Statistically speaking intelligence is the same across all human groups (to the poster who normally shows to claim that European Jews have a higher IQ.. STOP). In a randomly selected group of 1000 whites, hispanics, blacks, asians and Indians the IQ distribution (I know the IQ test is not perfect so don't show up to point that out) would be about the same. The top 20 kids from any of these groups would do equally well at a school like TJ. What is missing is the encouragement/desire - parent and the child, exposure to the opportunities that make STEM interesting to the kid, and the culture that celebrates a STEM interest and not talks down on that as "Nerdy". Also important is the time commitment to support a kid at TJ, the long drives for sports and EC, extra hours spent on study, etc. All of this takes time and costs money. Why not fight for tax $$ to address that?

Fix all that first and EVERYONE will be well represented at TJ.

For the other Asians who are getting "offended" by the asian-bashing here. Don't GAF. Just do your thing. If your kid makes it to TJ, great! If not, focus on maximizing GPA and the "right" ECs at the base HS to get in the appropriate college for your kid. Let's laugh all the way to the bank while other idiots post about closing down TJ.. You will see the same "sour grapes" posts 20 years from now