Why don't people want to go to tj just because there are "too many" asians?

[Anonymous]

It hurts my feelings. We're human just like everyone else. It makes me sad how racist people still are in America, despite how people like to think they're not. It shows that people are just being politically correct, but behind closed doors they are really racist and see asians as undesirable for whatever preconceived notions they might have. I wish we could just see people for who they are and not their race.

[Anonymous]

TJ’s culture killed my daughter's interest in math and science by turning education into a blood sport.

[Anonymous]

TJ doesn't provide a real world, diverse education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't provide a real world, diverse education.

This is so silly. My TJ kid is coming out with a strong basis is science research, yes. But also an understanding of basic electronics, a certification in welding, the ability to CAD and 3rd print anything, basic computer programming, an incredibly strong grounding in writing and analysis. Shockingly strong history. 4 years of music. A zillion group projects and grades with an assigned lab partner that forced him to learn to collaborate with all different types of kids. What exactly do you think is missing?

[Anonymous]

There are different kinds of Asians at TJ. But many are racist and form cheating rings having been together in prep classes for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are different kinds of Asians at TJ. But many are racist and form cheating rings having been together in prep classes for years.

OP here. How do you know there are many of these kids? Even if there are some, why do all Asians have to be lumped in with these bad actors? How would you like it if you were stigmatized for the bad acts that people who look like you have done? And, just so you know, just because someone is Asian, does not mean they took prep classes. That is such a stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It hurts my feelings. We're human just like everyone else. It makes me sad how racist people still are in America, despite how people like to think they're not. It shows that people are just being politically correct, but behind closed doors they are really racist and see asians as undesirable for whatever preconceived notions they might have. I wish we could just see people for who they are and not their race.

OP -- these people are doing you a favor by not going to TJ. Do you really want your kids around people like this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't provide a real world, diverse education.

This is so silly. My TJ kid is coming out with a strong basis is science research, yes. But also an understanding of basic electronics, a certification in welding, the ability to CAD and 3rd print anything, basic computer programming, an incredibly strong grounding in writing and analysis. Shockingly strong history. 4 years of music. A zillion group projects and grades with an assigned lab partner that forced him to learn to collaborate with all different types of kids. What exactly do you think is missing?

It’s not diverse racially, socio-economically, socially and I’d argue intellectually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't provide a real world, diverse education.

This is so silly. My TJ kid is coming out with a strong basis is science research, yes. But also an understanding of basic electronics, a certification in welding, the ability to CAD and 3rd print anything, basic computer programming, an incredibly strong grounding in writing and analysis. Shockingly strong history. 4 years of music. A zillion group projects and grades with an assigned lab partner that forced him to learn to collaborate with all different types of kids. What exactly do you think is missing?

It’s not diverse racially, socio-economically, socially and I’d argue intellectually.

+1000. There are a handful of AA and Latinx students in each class, and those kids get talked about behind their backs on a daily basis (and occasionally to their faces) that they are obviously products of a secret affirmative action program. And the over-emphasis on STEM in the admissions process results in entirely too many kids walking around the school with the same ambitions, same goals, and same interests - making the cutthroat environment of competition inevitable. And the worst part is, most of these kids and families came from middle schools with the same problems because of the competition within the schools to get into TJ - so they don't recognize the poisonous nature of the culture until they get to college.

[Anonymous]

Difficult to stand out with so many high achieving Asian kids in college education.

Asian culture of academic achievement and scholarly pursuits. Mainly intact, college educated and at least middle class clued in families.

No one is feeling bad that prom is cancelled but people may feel bad if scholastic tournaments, seminars, competitions and field trips etc are cancelled. See? Not a typical American HS experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Difficult to stand out with so many high achieving Asian kids in college education.

Asian culture of academic achievement and scholarly pursuits. Mainly intact, college educated and at least middle class clued in families.

No one is feeling bad that prom is cancelled but people may feel bad if scholastic tournaments, seminars, competitions and field trips etc are cancelled. See? Not a typical American HS experience.

NP here. But if you want a typical American HS experience, why would you try to apply into the school in the first place. The school advertises itself as a STEM magnet school, so a concentration in STEM activities and learning should be expected. Students and families have a choice to stay in their zoned HS or apply for TJ. There should be room for those that want a STEM based choice and for those that don't, just don't apply.

This seems to me like complaining about universities like MIT, CMU, Stanford that have a strong STEM leaning.

[Anonymous]

Are you kidding???

I would like to get my kid to TJ precisely because of Asian-American students. It seems that they were only one not drinking Trump's and China's deceitful Koolaid, and took necessary precautions since Jan.

They are the only sensible group that was probably self-isolating from the beginning because they have heard/seen/lived through these times before; have an academic plan in place to study during the pandemic because of Singapore Math exposure in ES; know how to use spices and rice to eat good food; live frugally so that they can weather terrible times; and wearing masks and gloves everywhere without being self-conscious about it.

TJ Community right now is the most well prepared. No one is gonna be sick while doing online group projects. I expect that rigorous studies are going on in earnest among the student population. Some of them may be even catching up on their sleep. No boredom for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't provide a real world, diverse education.

This is so silly. My TJ kid is coming out with a strong basis is science research, yes. But also an understanding of basic electronics, a certification in welding, the ability to CAD and 3rd print anything, basic computer programming, an incredibly strong grounding in writing and analysis. Shockingly strong history. 4 years of music. A zillion group projects and grades with an assigned lab partner that forced him to learn to collaborate with all different types of kids. What exactly do you think is missing?

It’s not diverse racially, socio-economically, socially and I’d argue intellectually.

+1000. There are a handful of AA and Latinx students in each class, and those kids get talked about behind their backs on a daily basis (and occasionally to their faces) that they are obviously products of a secret affirmative action program. And the over-emphasis on STEM in the admissions process results in entirely too many kids walking around the school with the same ambitions, same goals, and same interests - making the cutthroat environment of competition inevitable. And the worst part is, most of these kids and families came from middle schools with the same problems because of the competition within the schools to get into TJ - so they don't recognize the poisonous nature of the culture until they get to college.

OP here. I can honestly say that in my 2 yrs at TJ, I have not heard of anyone who talks or thinks like this. Of course, there are hundreds of students at TJ, so there could be some who do, just like there could be in other schools, but to characterize an entire school population like that is just ignorant. There are tons of good and decent students at tj that just want to pursue their interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Difficult to stand out with so many high achieving Asian kids in college education.

Asian culture of academic achievement and scholarly pursuits. Mainly intact, college educated and at least middle class clued in families.

No one is feeling bad that prom is cancelled but people may feel bad if scholastic tournaments, seminars, competitions and field trips etc are cancelled. See? Not a typical American HS experience.

OP here. OMG, you really don't see Asians as human. I don't know any TJ seniors who are not upset about all of the senior traditions and celebrations they will miss out on because of the pandemic. Who ARE YOU to make these assumptions?

[Anonymous]

what percent of TJ students are Asian? just curious.