5th Grade CogAT : Number Correct

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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy. Anyone have an Eastern slot they want to swap for a TPMS one?

This is not a humble brag. My kid is going to be so mad and disappointed.

I know a kid indicated Eastern as her only choice during the survey, got stellar V and MAP-R scores, and rejected by Eastern but got accepted by TPMS. She appealed and eventually got into Eastern. Good Luck!

What were the kids meant to indicate a preference? I don’t think my kid did this. I didn’t even talk to him about Eastern. He doesn’t know the first thing about it. In fact when he took the cOGAT e we had barely discussed the magnet program at all.

Before the CoGAT, there is a survey section, asking which program you preferred to go, what you think make you a good magnet candidate, some questions like this. My STEM-oriented kid chose TPMS as the only choice and I'm looking forward to see the result tonight when I got back.

How are the kids supposed to know about the magnets and what they might want? I make it a point to not discuss the magnets/CogAT with my kid because I don't want any pressure. It seems unfair if they use that survey as part of the process. We'll see what we wind up with. DS was rejected to CES with 99th percentile across the board in 3rd, and has 99th percentile again on CogAT, but I don't think he even knows what the magnets are.

I agree. Why ask that question? Makes the kids anxious.

My did said they question was more like "Do you think math skills or language arts skills are more valuable over a lifetime? Why?" As s/he tells it, it didn't mention the magnets: it was a thought experiment.

What a dumb question. That’s like asking which is more important, your heart or your brain. Clearly, you need both and neither is more important. Also, the best honest answer is verbal skills because there are so many math illiterates in the US that you stand out less than if you can’t read—but that’s not a good way to select an educational program.

DC told me they were asked to indicate if they were not interested, somewhat interested or very interested in attending those schools. Separate answers for TPMS and Eastern. I think it may have been a 5 point scale. I'm not sure how much they took that into account if at all. It was worded in such a way that kids like DC were like why would I want to go to another school other than my home school?

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My DC was waitlisted for both Takoma and Eastern. Raw scores were V60, Q52, NV46. In a high SES, W feeder elementary school. Results came in a windowed envelope. We weren't going to accept even if admitted so oh well. But interesting to see DC's verbal is one of the higher ones I've seen reported and still waitlisted. Though I'm not sure how DC answered the question about humanities vs. science interest.

Good luck to everyone!

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Anonymous wrote:98%v, 99q, 99%nv
99.9% MAP-M 97% MAP-R

in boundary TPMS currently in local CES with straight A's

And did your child get in?

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering about scores.

99%v, 98q, 90%nv

High but not astronomical MAPs, straight As in a regional CES. Home school is probably in the middle tier in terms of FARMS rate.

In at TPMS, wait list at Eastern

Boy or girl? Race?

Boy. White (although I don't think that is known by the panel)

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Anonymous wrote:The people on this thread are more likely to be the ones who have been dealing for years with with helping their unusual child get enrichment. The ones posting scores are aware that their kid is highly accomplished. It isn’t a normal population sample. It makes sense that the very few kids with incredible scores have parents posting on this thread right now.

Oh self-reporting is skewed toward the preppers, to be sure. Quantitative is the score that's easiest to bump. The fact that mom doesn't know enough everyday statistics to read a score report without spewing mumbo jumbo, is the next clue.

Be nice. I know people following this thread because their home MS stinks and because they have a child who doesn't quite fit in at their home MS. I don't think they prep but I don't think they posted scores either.

Same. Careful who you stick up for. They're just trolling here to find out if your friend's DC will get in with lower stats.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC was waitlisted for both Takoma and Eastern. Raw scores were V60, Q52, NV46. In a high SES, W feeder elementary school. Results came in a windowed envelope. We weren't going to accept even if admitted so oh well. But interesting to see DC's verbal is one of the higher ones I've seen reported and still waitlisted. Though I'm not sure how DC answered the question about humanities vs. science interest.

Good luck to everyone!

I am really surprised your child was waitlisted! Those are fantastic scores. Can I ask which elementary school?

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Anonymous wrote:V57, Q52, NQ 55, all 99%, 9B

PP here: got the letter just now. Accepted to both. All 99 MCPS percentiles too. Other metrics: fall map-r 239, map-m 277, straight A, 5s on PARCC, w-school, Asian, boy, current CES.

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When is the acceptance deadline?

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Anonymous wrote:When is the acceptance deadline?

Feb 7

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Anonymous wrote:98%v, 99q, 99%nv
99.9% MAP-M 97% MAP-R

in boundary TPMS currently in local CES with straight A's

And did your child get in?

Yes, but within the TPMS boundary odds aren't as crazy. I honestly think they could use a couple more MS magnets like this given the demand and number of qualified kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We didn’t apply to the magnets (too far away) but DC did take the CoGAT. Are they mailing the scores to non-applicants as well?

Your scores are in the MyMCPS parent portal if your student took cogAT for GT identification, but I"m not sure when you get more information about that, in the past it wasn't until June.

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Anonymous wrote:V57, Q52, NQ 55, all 99%, 9B

PP here: got the letter just now. Accepted to both. All 99 MCPS percentiles too. Other metrics: fall map-r 239, map-m 277, straight A, 5s on PARCC, w-school, Asian, boy, current CES.

and now to decide where to go

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PP with DS who got into both where will your child go?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy. Anyone have an Eastern slot they want to swap for a TPMS one?

This is not a humble brag. My kid is going to be so mad and disappointed.

I know a kid indicated Eastern as her only choice during the survey, got stellar V and MAP-R scores, and rejected by Eastern but got accepted by TPMS. She appealed and eventually got into Eastern. Good Luck!

What were the kids meant to indicate a preference? I don’t think my kid did this. I didn’t even talk to him about Eastern. He doesn’t know the first thing about it. In fact when he took the cOGAT e we had barely discussed the magnet program at all.

Before the CoGAT, there is a survey section, asking which program you preferred to go, what you think make you a good magnet candidate, some questions like this. My STEM-oriented kid chose TPMS as the only choice and I'm looking forward to see the result tonight when I got back.

How are the kids supposed to know about the magnets and what they might want? I make it a point to not discuss the magnets/CogAT with my kid because I don't want any pressure. It seems unfair if they use that survey as part of the process. We'll see what we wind up with. DS was rejected to CES with 99th percentile across the board in 3rd, and has 99th percentile again on CogAT, but I don't think he even knows what the magnets are.

I agree. Why ask that question? Makes the kids anxious.

My did said they question was more like "Do you think math skills or language arts skills are more valuable over a lifetime? Why?" As s/he tells it, it didn't mention the magnets: it was a thought experiment.

What a dumb question. That’s like asking which is more important, your heart or your brain. Clearly, you need both and neither is more important. Also, the best honest answer is verbal skills because there are so many math illiterates in the US that you stand out less than if you can’t read—but that’s not a good way to select an educational program.

DC told me they were asked to indicate if they were not interested, somewhat interested or very interested in attending those schools. Separate answers for TPMS and Eastern. I think it may have been a 5 point scale. I'm not sure how much they took that into account if at all. It was worded in such a way that kids like DC were like why would I want to go to another school other than my home school?

I'm pretty sure these questions are part of the "non scored" portion of the test. I was told they use the student preferences as a way to help guage interest and determine how many students to invite - they invite over the 100 seats at each of the 4 programs (one of each program downcounty and upcounty) knowing that some students have a choice between two. If they know more students put Math Science Computer Science first, they probably invite a few more to the Humanities programs.

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You guys got me all freaked out about this. I should know to NEVER rely on DCUM for advice or to trust what I read.

Here’s my reality check with real scores:

Cogat National 99V, 98Q, 99NV
Cogat MCPS, 96V, 93Q, 95NV
MAP math 240s, MAP reading 230s
All As
High 5 on PARCC math, high 4 on PARCC ELA

Recommended for TPMS, wait pool at Eastern

School with moderate poverty rate. No prepping for tests.