5th Grade CogAT : Number Correct

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Anonymous wrote:Recommended to TPMS and Not Recommended to Eastern.

MCPS %s are 98 Q, slightly lower V, much much lower N. MAPs are good but not as high as most PPs indicate. Even got a 4 on the Reading PARCC. This is clearly not about high scores only.

I am very surprised but very happy.


Congrats and mind sharing high, mid, or low-SES home MS?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Recommended to TPMS and Not Recommended to Eastern.

MCPS %s are 98 Q, slightly lower V, much much lower N. MAPs are good but not as high as most PPs indicate. Even got a 4 on the Reading PARCC. This is clearly not about high scores only.

I am very surprised but very happy.


Are you in TPMS boundary?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Recommended to TPMS and Not Recommended to Eastern.

MCPS %s are 98 Q, slightly lower V, much much lower N. MAPs are good but not as high as most PPs indicate. Even got a 4 on the Reading PARCC. This is clearly not about high scores only.

I am very surprised but very happy.


What were the national %? Congratulations!
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Anonymous wrote:Recommended to TPMS and Not Recommended to Eastern.

MCPS %s are 98 Q, slightly lower V, much much lower N. MAPs are good but not as high as most PPs indicate. Even got a 4 on the Reading PARCC. This is clearly not about high scores only.

I am very surprised but very happy.


Congrats and mind sharing high, mid, or low-SES home MS?


High SES, caucasian. Currently in a CES.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Recommended to TPMS and Not Recommended to Eastern.

MCPS %s are 98 Q, slightly lower V, much much lower N. MAPs are good but not as high as most PPs indicate. Even got a 4 on the Reading PARCC. This is clearly not about high scores only.

I am very surprised but very happy.


What were the national %? Congratulations!


Higher, but 99% composite. MCPS has lots of children who test extremely well...better than my kid, at least according to these threads.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy. Anyone have an Eastern slot they want to swap for a TPMS one?

This is not a humble brag. My kid is going to be so mad and disappointed.


I know a kid indicated Eastern as her only choice during the survey, got stellar V and MAP-R scores, and rejected by Eastern but got accepted by TPMS. She appealed and eventually got into Eastern. Good Luck!


What were the kids meant to indicate a preference? I don’t think my kid did this. I didn’t even talk to him about Eastern. He doesn’t know the first thing about it. In fact when he took the cOGAT e we had barely discussed the magnet program at all.


Before the CoGAT, there is a survey section, asking which program you preferred to go, what you think make you a good magnet candidate, some questions like this. My STEM-oriented kid chose TPMS as the only choice and I'm looking forward to see the result tonight when I got back.


How are the kids supposed to know about the magnets and what they might want? I make it a point to not discuss the magnets/CogAT with my kid because I don't want any pressure. It seems unfair if they use that survey as part of the process. We'll see what we wind up with. DS was rejected to CES with 99th percentile across the board in 3rd, and has 99th percentile again on CogAT, but I don't think he even knows what the magnets are.

I agree. Why ask that question? Makes the kids anxious.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy. Anyone have an Eastern slot they want to swap for a TPMS one?

This is not a humble brag. My kid is going to be so mad and disappointed.


I know a kid indicated Eastern as her only choice during the survey, got stellar V and MAP-R scores, and rejected by Eastern but got accepted by TPMS. She appealed and eventually got into Eastern. Good Luck!


What were the kids meant to indicate a preference? I don’t think my kid did this. I didn’t even talk to him about Eastern. He doesn’t know the first thing about it. In fact when he took the cOGAT e we had barely discussed the magnet program at all.


Before the CoGAT, there is a survey section, asking which program you preferred to go, what you think make you a good magnet candidate, some questions like this. My STEM-oriented kid chose TPMS as the only choice and I'm looking forward to see the result tonight when I got back.


How are the kids supposed to know about the magnets and what they might want? I make it a point to not discuss the magnets/CogAT with my kid because I don't want any pressure. It seems unfair if they use that survey as part of the process. We'll see what we wind up with. DS was rejected to CES with 99th percentile across the board in 3rd, and has 99th percentile again on CogAT, but I don't think he even knows what the magnets are.

I agree. Why ask that question? Makes the kids anxious.


My did said they question was more like "Do you think math skills or language arts skills are more valuable over a lifetime? Why?" As s/he tells it, it didn't mention the magnets: it was a thought experiment.
Anonymous
I wish the county would expand to another 100 seats. I suspect there might be a a gifted teacher shortage which is why the program is smaller.
Anonymous
For those wondering about scores.

99%v, 98q, 90%nv

High but not astronomical MAPs, straight As in a regional CES. Home school is probably in the middle tier in terms of FARMS rate.

In at TPMS, wait list at Eastern
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For those wondering about scores.

99%v, 98q, 90%nv

High but not astronomical MAPs, straight As in a regional CES. Home school is probably in the middle tier in terms of FARMS rate.

In at TPMS, wait list at Eastern

Boy or girl? Race?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question? People been debating this subject for months on end. What it takes to get in differs depending on the SES group of your child's school.


Which way does it skew? Higher SES means easier to get in, or lower SES means easier to get in?


Is this post a troll?

The highest 2019 test score rank for ESs in MCPS:
Bannacockburn, Travillah, Wayside, Carderock Springs, Westbrook, Cold Spring, Stone Mill, Seven Locks, Bradley Hills
Farm rate for them: 2%, 8%, 4.7%, 1.8%, 2%, 2.4%, 0.9%, 9.7%, 4.7%, 0.8%. By definition, all low-SES schools.

The lowest 2019 test score rank for ESs in MCPS:
Harmony Hills, Captain James E. Daly, Georgian Forest, Stedwick, Gaithersburg, Twinbrook, Clopper Mill, Summit Hall, Rolling Terrace, Rock View.
Farm rate: 85.2%, 71.7%, 78%, 63.3%, 85.2%, 69.2%, 63.8%, 76.8%, 72.4%, 48.5%, all high-SES schools.


Sorry, pp here. Low-SES and high-SES should be switched by definition.


I still don’t get why the PP asked if the scores were from a high or low SES school? If the answer is “high,” would they snark and dismiss the result?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question? People been debating this subject for months on end. What it takes to get in differs depending on the SES group of your child's school.


Which way does it skew? Higher SES means easier to get in, or lower SES means easier to get in?


Is this post a troll?

The highest 2019 test score rank for ESs in MCPS:
Bannacockburn, Travillah, Wayside, Carderock Springs, Westbrook, Cold Spring, Stone Mill, Seven Locks, Bradley Hills
Farm rate for them: 2%, 8%, 4.7%, 1.8%, 2%, 2.4%, 0.9%, 9.7%, 4.7%, 0.8%. By definition, all low-SES schools.

The lowest 2019 test score rank for ESs in MCPS:
Harmony Hills, Captain James E. Daly, Georgian Forest, Stedwick, Gaithersburg, Twinbrook, Clopper Mill, Summit Hall, Rolling Terrace, Rock View.
Farm rate: 85.2%, 71.7%, 78%, 63.3%, 85.2%, 69.2%, 63.8%, 76.8%, 72.4%, 48.5%, all high-SES schools.




Sorry, pp here. Low-SES and high-SES should be switched by definition.


I still don’t get why the PP asked if the scores were from a high or low SES school? If the answer is “high,” would they snark and dismiss the result?


No, the presumption on this board is that it’s harder to get in from a high-SES school because they are more likely to have a high achieving cohort at the home middle school, per the new guidelines.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy. Anyone have an Eastern slot they want to swap for a TPMS one?

This is not a humble brag. My kid is going to be so mad and disappointed.


I know a kid indicated Eastern as her only choice during the survey, got stellar V and MAP-R scores, and rejected by Eastern but got accepted by TPMS. She appealed and eventually got into Eastern. Good Luck!


What were the kids meant to indicate a preference? I don’t think my kid did this. I didn’t even talk to him about Eastern. He doesn’t know the first thing about it. In fact when he took the cOGAT e we had barely discussed the magnet program at all.


Before the CoGAT, there is a survey section, asking which program you preferred to go, what you think make you a good magnet candidate, some questions like this. My STEM-oriented kid chose TPMS as the only choice and I'm looking forward to see the result tonight when I got back.


How are the kids supposed to know about the magnets and what they might want? I make it a point to not discuss the magnets/CogAT with my kid because I don't want any pressure. It seems unfair if they use that survey as part of the process. We'll see what we wind up with. DS was rejected to CES with 99th percentile across the board in 3rd, and has 99th percentile again on CogAT, but I don't think he even knows what the magnets are.

I agree. Why ask that question? Makes the kids anxious.


My did said they question was more like "Do you think math skills or language arts skills are more valuable over a lifetime? Why?" As s/he tells it, it didn't mention the magnets: it was a thought experiment.


What a dumb question. That’s like asking which is more important, your heart or your brain. Clearly, you need both and neither is more important. Also, the best honest answer is verbal skills because there are so many math illiterates in the US that you stand out less than if you can’t read—but that’s not a good way to select an educational program.
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where's the takoma or eastern..what should I do thread?
Anonymous
98%v, 99q, 99%nv
99.9% MAP-M 97% MAP-R

in boundary TPMS currently in local CES with straight A's
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