Would you tell a vegetarian relative that your MIL has been sneaking meat into their food?

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Tell the SIL so she can make a special chocolate pie for the MIL.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't. She is probably worried about her health. Is her hair, skin and nails crappy looking like a lot of people who don't get enough protein? Your MIL is a dick but trying to do her a solid and trying to preserve the flavour of her meals for the rest of the guests.

You know nothing about a vegetarian diet. Do you really believe you only get protein from meat, what about tofu, lentils, kidney beans, chickpeas.

I do know vegetarianism and I also know most people don't know how much protein they need or the sources. If she eats/likes her food I wouldn't say a word.

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If I’d told DH to tell BIL and BIL didn’t want to tell his own wife, I’d stay out of it. It’s so dysfunctional all around, no reason to get in the middle. Unless you’re willing to cause a divorce. No way SIL can be super mad at you when her own husband knew and didn’t tell her. If you tell now, YOU are the cause of this family breaking up (from everyone else’s POV). If she finds out later so be it. Not your fault she and her husband have a seriously messed up relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I would. Some people are vegetarian because their body can't process meat based protein. Like my SIL. If she has meat or dairy she will be violently ill.

In which case, I think they'd know that already.

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Tell
And I would not give a F**** if my MIL knew it was me.
I don’t care about their opinion about somebody who would do that to someone else that is absolutely horrible.
Are you better than me because if she told me she was doing it or saw her doing it I would’ve told her right then that was a horrible thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I would. Some people are vegetarian because their body can't process meat based protein. Like my SIL. If she has meat or dairy she will be violently ill.

In which case, I think they'd know that already.

Not necessarily it may be in a matter of if it has to build up in there or interact with something else either way if a person tells you they have certain dietary restrictions you can’t be a crappy person and violate those restrictions without their knowledge

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out that my MIL intentionally sneaks meat products into her "vegetarian" dishes and does not tell SIL about it. She'll tell SIL that she used vegetable broth when she really uses chicken broth. She'll cook things in bacon fat or add some bacon fat for flavor. She isn't sneaking a steak into a smoothie or anything but she's been serving quite a few vegetarian meals with meat products. MIL things being a vegetarian is stupid and she is already being gracious enough to pretend to accommodate SIL.

If I tell SIL, MIL will know it was me. I'm on the fence about whether to say anything or not.

NP here. I wouldn’t lie directly like this, but I use chicken broth in a few no-meat dishes I make and it wouldn’t occur me to warn people it has 1/4 cup of chicken broth in it.

Really? If you were making a meal for people who straight up told you they are vegetarian, it "wouldn't occur to you" to tell them that it has meat in it?

Because it's not meat, no. Some people really don't think of the broth as meat in that sense.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and have never drawn a distinction between chicken broth (made of chicken) and any other part of chicken. If I told you I was vegetarian before coming to your house for dinner and later found out that you'd made something with chicken broth and told me it was vegetarian because chicken broth "isn't meat in that sense", I would feel extremely disrespected.

I truly don't understand why this is hard for you. It's CHICKEN broth. Why on earth would you consider that to be vegetarian?

Because it’s not meat? Vegan and vegetarian are different, right? Milk comes from cows but you can use it in vegetarian dishes, can’t you? Chicken broth is just water a chicken sat in. It’s arguably less “from the chicken” than milk is. Then again, best to ask and clarify what is ok/not when cooking for someone with dietary restrictions. Some people are just dumb and think “no meat” = vegetarian and obviously there is no meat in broth, that’s what makes it different from soup.

If a chicken had to die to make a dish, most vegetarians wouldn’t want to eat it. It’s not about if there’s muscle tissue physically present in a dish. It’s usually about if an animal was slaughtered and it’s body was used in some part of the creation of the dish. A chicken sitting in water gives you a bird bath, not broth. Cows don’t have to die to give milk. You seem to only be considering which food group the animal gives you rather than if the animal was killed in the process of giving you food.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't. She is probably worried about her health. Is her hair, skin and nails crappy looking like a lot of people who don't get enough protein? Your MIL is a dick but trying to do her a solid and trying to preserve the flavour of her meals for the rest of the guests.

You know nothing about a vegetarian diet. Do you really believe you only get protein from meat, what about tofu, lentils, kidney beans, chickpeas.

I do know vegetarianism and I also know most people don't know how much protein they need or the sources. If she eats/likes her food I wouldn't say a word.

For one meal, protein is not a big deal and its no MIL decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out that my MIL intentionally sneaks meat products into her "vegetarian" dishes and does not tell SIL about it. She'll tell SIL that she used vegetable broth when she really uses chicken broth. She'll cook things in bacon fat or add some bacon fat for flavor. She isn't sneaking a steak into a smoothie or anything but she's been serving quite a few vegetarian meals with meat products. MIL things being a vegetarian is stupid and she is already being gracious enough to pretend to accommodate SIL.

If I tell SIL, MIL will know it was me. I'm on the fence about whether to say anything or not.

NP here. I wouldn’t lie directly like this, but I use chicken broth in a few no-meat dishes I make and it wouldn’t occur me to warn people it has 1/4 cup of chicken broth in it.

Really? If you were making a meal for people who straight up told you they are vegetarian, it "wouldn't occur to you" to tell them that it has meat in it?

Because it's not meat, no. Some people really don't think of the broth as meat in that sense.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and have never drawn a distinction between chicken broth (made of chicken) and any other part of chicken. If I told you I was vegetarian before coming to your house for dinner and later found out that you'd made something with chicken broth and told me it was vegetarian because chicken broth "isn't meat in that sense", I would feel extremely disrespected.

I truly don't understand why this is hard for you. It's CHICKEN broth. Why on earth would you consider that to be vegetarian?

Because it’s not meat? Vegan and vegetarian are different, right? Milk comes from cows but you can use it in vegetarian dishes, can’t you? Chicken broth is just water a chicken sat in. It’s arguably less “from the chicken” than milk is. Then again, best to ask and clarify what is ok/not when cooking for someone with dietary restrictions. Some people are just dumb and think “no meat” = vegetarian and obviously there is no meat in broth, that’s what makes it different from soup.

If a chicken had to die to make a dish, most vegetarians wouldn’t want to eat it. It’s not about if there’s muscle tissue physically present in a dish. It’s usually about if an animal was slaughtered and it’s body was used in some part of the creation of the dish. A chicken sitting in water gives you a bird bath, not broth. Cows don’t have to die to give milk. You seem to only be considering which food group the animal gives you rather than if the animal was killed in the process of giving you food.

Chicken broth is not vegetarian and as a vegetarian I would not eat it. No vegetarian would eat it, not most. If you would eat it you are not a vegetarian.

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You know what? I read the updates. These two deserve each other.

Say nothing, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out that my MIL intentionally sneaks meat products into her "vegetarian" dishes and does not tell SIL about it. She'll tell SIL that she used vegetable broth when she really uses chicken broth. She'll cook things in bacon fat or add some bacon fat for flavor. She isn't sneaking a steak into a smoothie or anything but she's been serving quite a few vegetarian meals with meat products. MIL things being a vegetarian is stupid and she is already being gracious enough to pretend to accommodate SIL.

If I tell SIL, MIL will know it was me. I'm on the fence about whether to say anything or not.

NP here. I wouldn’t lie directly like this, but I use chicken broth in a few no-meat dishes I make and it wouldn’t occur me to warn people it has 1/4 cup of chicken broth in it.

Really? If you were making a meal for people who straight up told you they are vegetarian, it "wouldn't occur to you" to tell them that it has meat in it?

Because it's not meat, no. Some people really don't think of the broth as meat in that sense.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and have never drawn a distinction between chicken broth (made of chicken) and any other part of chicken. If I told you I was vegetarian before coming to your house for dinner and later found out that you'd made something with chicken broth and told me it was vegetarian because chicken broth "isn't meat in that sense", I would feel extremely disrespected.

I truly don't understand why this is hard for you. It's CHICKEN broth. Why on earth would you consider that to be vegetarian?

Because it’s not meat? Vegan and vegetarian are different, right? Milk comes from cows but you can use it in vegetarian dishes, can’t you? Chicken broth is just water a chicken sat in. It’s arguably less “from the chicken” than milk is. Then again, best to ask and clarify what is ok/not when cooking for someone with dietary restrictions. Some people are just dumb and think “no meat” = vegetarian and obviously there is no meat in broth, that’s what makes it different from soup.

If a chicken had to die to make a dish, most vegetarians wouldn’t want to eat it. It’s not about if there’s muscle tissue physically present in a dish. It’s usually about if an animal was slaughtered and it’s body was used in some part of the creation of the dish. A chicken sitting in water gives you a bird bath, not broth. Cows don’t have to die to give milk. You seem to only be considering which food group the animal gives you rather than if the animal was killed in the process of giving you food.

Chicken broth is not vegetarian and as a vegetarian I would not eat it. No vegetarian would eat it, not most. If you would eat it you are not a vegetarian.

I meant most vegetarians as people identify themselves. I guess I should’ve said some “vegetarians” are okay with animal based broth but it’s not acceptable to strict (real) vegetarians.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out that my MIL intentionally sneaks meat products into her "vegetarian" dishes and does not tell SIL about it. She'll tell SIL that she used vegetable broth when she really uses chicken broth. She'll cook things in bacon fat or add some bacon fat for flavor. She isn't sneaking a steak into a smoothie or anything but she's been serving quite a few vegetarian meals with meat products. MIL things being a vegetarian is stupid and she is already being gracious enough to pretend to accommodate SIL.

If I tell SIL, MIL will know it was me. I'm on the fence about whether to say anything or not.

NP here. I wouldn’t lie directly like this, but I use chicken broth in a few no-meat dishes I make and it wouldn’t occur me to warn people it has 1/4 cup of chicken broth in it.

Really? If you were making a meal for people who straight up told you they are vegetarian, it "wouldn't occur to you" to tell them that it has meat in it?

Because it's not meat, no. Some people really don't think of the broth as meat in that sense.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and have never drawn a distinction between chicken broth (made of chicken) and any other part of chicken. If I told you I was vegetarian before coming to your house for dinner and later found out that you'd made something with chicken broth and told me it was vegetarian because chicken broth "isn't meat in that sense", I would feel extremely disrespected.

I truly don't understand why this is hard for you. It's CHICKEN broth. Why on earth would you consider that to be vegetarian?

Because it’s not meat? Vegan and vegetarian are different, right? Milk comes from cows but you can use it in vegetarian dishes, can’t you? Chicken broth is just water a chicken sat in. It’s arguably less “from the chicken” than milk is. Then again, best to ask and clarify what is ok/not when cooking for someone with dietary restrictions. Some people are just dumb and think “no meat” = vegetarian and obviously there is no meat in broth, that’s what makes it different from soup.

If a chicken had to die to make a dish, most vegetarians wouldn’t want to eat it. It’s not about if there’s muscle tissue physically present in a dish. It’s usually about if an animal was slaughtered and it’s body was used in some part of the creation of the dish. A chicken sitting in water gives you a bird bath, not broth. Cows don’t have to die to give milk. You seem to only be considering which food group the animal gives you rather than if the animal was killed in the process of giving you food.

Chicken broth is not vegetarian and as a vegetarian I would not eat it. No vegetarian would eat it, not most. If you would eat it you are not a vegetarian.

I meant most vegetarians as people identify themselves. I guess I should’ve said some “vegetarians” are okay with animal based broth but it’s not acceptable to strict (real) vegetarians.

No vegetarian i son with animal broth. Absolutely none. That goes against being a vegetarian.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out that my MIL intentionally sneaks meat products into her "vegetarian" dishes and does not tell SIL about it. She'll tell SIL that she used vegetable broth when she really uses chicken broth. She'll cook things in bacon fat or add some bacon fat for flavor. She isn't sneaking a steak into a smoothie or anything but she's been serving quite a few vegetarian meals with meat products. MIL things being a vegetarian is stupid and she is already being gracious enough to pretend to accommodate SIL.

If I tell SIL, MIL will know it was me. I'm on the fence about whether to say anything or not.

NP here. I wouldn’t lie directly like this, but I use chicken broth in a few no-meat dishes I make and it wouldn’t occur me to warn people it has 1/4 cup of chicken broth in it.

Really? If you were making a meal for people who straight up told you they are vegetarian, it "wouldn't occur to you" to tell them that it has meat in it?

Because it's not meat, no. Some people really don't think of the broth as meat in that sense.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and have never drawn a distinction between chicken broth (made of chicken) and any other part of chicken. If I told you I was vegetarian before coming to your house for dinner and later found out that you'd made something with chicken broth and told me it was vegetarian because chicken broth "isn't meat in that sense", I would feel extremely disrespected.

I truly don't understand why this is hard for you. It's CHICKEN broth. Why on earth would you consider that to be vegetarian?

Because it’s not meat? Vegan and vegetarian are different, right? Milk comes from cows but you can use it in vegetarian dishes, can’t you? Chicken broth is just water a chicken sat in. It’s arguably less “from the chicken” than milk is. Then again, best to ask and clarify what is ok/not when cooking for someone with dietary restrictions. Some people are just dumb and think “no meat” = vegetarian and obviously there is no meat in broth, that’s what makes it different from soup.

Haha, this is the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Thanks for the laugh!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm on the fence about this. I'm a vegetarian and have been using a mix of half meat/half soy protein in all my ground beef dishes for years. My family doesn't know and has not noticed. And I'm okay with it since they don't have any soy allergies. But, now that I think about it, sneaking meat into a vegetarian's meal is worse than sneaking soy into a meat-eater's meal.

You are not a vegetarian

I mean really! Are there more of these pps? Didn't we have someone say something equally stupid in another thread? I eat ground beef and I am a veterinarian?!

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PP here. Just to clarify...I myself don't eat the ground beef/soy protein mix. I just make it for my family. In fact, I usually make two different meals--one for them and one for me. Mine do not contain meat because I AM A VEGETARIAN! I love how quick everyone was to jump on me...There's nothing that some meat-eaters like more than to "catch" vegetarians "cheating." You're such assholes pps

So you stay vegetarian but you...sneak meat into your family's meals, even though they think they are also vegetarian?

WTF is the endgame here?

You’re making this harder than it needs to be. She’s a vegetarian who still cooks meat for her fam. She makes a veg dish for herself and a meaty version for the fam. To get them to eat less meat, probably in an attempt to get them to have a healthier diet, she puts some plant based faux meat in the dish so it’s a mix of real meat and meat substitute. The vegetarians eat the meat free dish, the carnivores eat the meat and soy dish, unwittingly ingesting more veggies and fewer cows. No one is eating anything they have moral objections to or dietary issues with. However, she just realized that her actions are similar to OP’s MIL, although not so corrupt because her intentions are pure.

Oh I see - thanks for explaining. Yeah, I guess that's an interesting hypo to posit against OP's MIL - who is clearly deranged and YES OBVIOUSLY SIL SHOULD BE TOLD. I still believe people should know what they are eating, so I would say PP should also tell her family - though if she has no reason to believe they would object, then I suppose it doesn't really matter as much. But by and large I think it's just shtty and unethical to trick people into eating things.

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s to say that after all of this is done that MIL won’t stop. You could tell SIL and she could continue doing or you could ask her to stop and she could say she will and continue to do it. I know I’m not helping but...it’s a tough call.

But SIL will at least know not to eat soups or whatever. And she can decide how to exact revenge, more importantly.