Question for parents of black children in Montgomery County.

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Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of anti-Asian American sentiment on here, too. I'm Asian American. And there are several African American families who live on my block. One thing I have learned from DCUM -- take it with a grain of salt. It is not reflective of real life.

Definitely take it with a grain of salt. The anti-Asian sentiment is about a race-blind admission process to magnet programs which some claim is biased despite Asians being awarded 3X the number of seats of any other cohort. Although it's hard to take that seriously, there have been numerous racial incidents at the segregated schools, aka "The W's". Your best bet is to visit schools in person and try to form an opinion based on first-hand knowledge.

Oh shut up with your "segregated" BS.

I'm black & am highly offended that you would throw the word segregated around so lightly, especially when making ridiculous blanket statements.

I have relatives who were forced to attend ACTUAL segregated schools & then were the first to attend integrated schools where nobody wanted them there EVER. So please, do yourself a favor and stop with the ignorant, thoughtless comments.

OP, I'm black and my children go to Walter Johnson, which is a (gasp!) W school & they both love it there.

Contrary to what the PP says, there is a thriving community of diversification at WJ (and I don't care what your statistics show, I see these kids with my own two eyes... there a nice mix of all POC).

WJ is a very welcoming community, any criticisms that you read come from parents who don't actually have kids at WJ & have probably never been to the school.

Whatever your child is into you can find it at WJ, whether it be sports, clubs, social awareness causes, environmental awareness causes, you name it & your kids can find their tribe.
If they don't have it yet, students are free to start new clubs as well.

NP, but I don’t think WJ is generally included in the W school definition here on DCUM, fwiw.

NP and I grew up in MCPS - graduated from Whitman.

WJ has ALWAYS been considered one of the 3 W schools, it's Whitman, Winston Churchill & Walter Johnson (and when Woodward opens, they'll most likely be the 4th).

All in Bethesda (apart from Churchill being on the border of Potomac/Bethesda).

Aren't the W's (for White) the segregated schools with all the racist incidents like kids running around in blackface?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of anti-Asian American sentiment on here, too. I'm Asian American. And there are several African American families who live on my block. One thing I have learned from DCUM -- take it with a grain of salt. It is not reflective of real life.

Definitely take it with a grain of salt. The anti-Asian sentiment is about a race-blind admission process to magnet programs which some claim is biased despite Asians being awarded 3X the number of seats of any other cohort. Although it's hard to take that seriously, there have been numerous racial incidents at the segregated schools, aka "The W's". Your best bet is to visit schools in person and try to form an opinion based on first-hand knowledge.

Oh shut up with your "segregated" BS.

I'm black & am highly offended that you would throw the word segregated around so lightly, especially when making ridiculous blanket statements.

I have relatives who were forced to attend ACTUAL segregated schools & then were the first to attend integrated schools where nobody wanted them there EVER. So please, do yourself a favor and stop with the ignorant, thoughtless comments.

OP, I'm black and my children go to Walter Johnson, which is a (gasp!) W school & they both love it there.

Contrary to what the PP says, there is a thriving community of diversification at WJ (and I don't care what your statistics show, I see these kids with my own two eyes... there a nice mix of all POC).

WJ is a very welcoming community, any criticisms that you read come from parents who don't actually have kids at WJ & have probably never been to the school.

Whatever your child is into you can find it at WJ, whether it be sports, clubs, social awareness causes, environmental awareness causes, you name it & your kids can find their tribe.
If they don't have it yet, students are free to start new clubs as well.

NP, but I don’t think WJ is generally included in the W school definition here on DCUM, fwiw.

NP and I grew up in MCPS - graduated from Whitman.

WJ has ALWAYS been considered one of the 3 W schools, it's Whitman, Winston Churchill & Walter Johnson (and when Woodward opens, they'll most likely be the 4th).

All in Bethesda (apart from Churchill being on the border of Potomac/Bethesda).

Aren't the W's (for White) the segregated schools with all the racist incidents like kids running around in blackface?

Seriously???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of anti-Asian American sentiment on here, too. I'm Asian American. And there are several African American families who live on my block. One thing I have learned from DCUM -- take it with a grain of salt. It is not reflective of real life.

Definitely take it with a grain of salt. The anti-Asian sentiment is about a race-blind admission process to magnet programs which some claim is biased despite Asians being awarded 3X the number of seats of any other cohort. Although it's hard to take that seriously, there have been numerous racial incidents at the segregated schools, aka "The W's". Your best bet is to visit schools in person and try to form an opinion based on first-hand knowledge.

Oh shut up with your "segregated" BS.

I'm black & am highly offended that you would throw the word segregated around so lightly, especially when making ridiculous blanket statements.

I have relatives who were forced to attend ACTUAL segregated schools & then were the first to attend integrated schools where nobody wanted them there EVER. So please, do yourself a favor and stop with the ignorant, thoughtless comments.

OP, I'm black and my children go to Walter Johnson, which is a (gasp!) W school & they both love it there.

Contrary to what the PP says, there is a thriving community of diversification at WJ (and I don't care what your statistics show, I see these kids with my own two eyes... there a nice mix of all POC).

WJ is a very welcoming community, any criticisms that you read come from parents who don't actually have kids at WJ & have probably never been to the school.

Whatever your child is into you can find it at WJ, whether it be sports, clubs, social awareness causes, environmental awareness causes, you name it & your kids can find their tribe.
If they don't have it yet, students are free to start new clubs as well.

NP, but I don’t think WJ is generally included in the W school definition here on DCUM, fwiw.

NP and I grew up in MCPS - graduated from Whitman.

WJ has ALWAYS been considered one of the 3 W schools, it's Whitman, Winston Churchill & Walter Johnson (and when Woodward opens, they'll most likely be the 4th).

All in Bethesda (apart from Churchill being on the border of Potomac/Bethesda).

Aren't the W's (for White) the segregated schools with all the racist incidents like kids running around in blackface?

Seriously???

DP. Yeah, seriously. Though to clarify —not in blackface AT school. One school did have students giving out passes to use the “N” word during the school day. Thete’s So much more than ever made the news or even DCUM. A senior girl who was told she got into an ivy because of AA and the teacher said nothing despite having written a college recommendation letter for her. A boy who was asked to “pretend you only speak African” as part of a prank on the long-term sub and then bullied because he refused.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in Montgomery county and I am biracial. I moved as soon as I could get away. I wanted my children to have teachers that represent them, friends they can relate to and live in a community that doesn’t judge them based on the color of their skin. Bowie is where we live. Very diverse, middle to upper class, and a friendly community

[Anonymous]

When people assume that if you're black, you must have parents who are poor and have little education? That assumption is part of the problem.


THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I'm a Black mom here in MoCo...and we're certainly not poor, and neither are my Black neighbors. These assumptions irk my nerves.

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


[b]tooo much Fox News. Lol! I second this. We are both Black and both of our families grew up in nice houses with great vacations and childhoods. My parents are both college educated with multiple degrees and my Dad is very wealthy. People are stupid. But, let them think I grew up in a hood somewhere.?

This is one of the reasons the privates or W schools are preferable to many UMC black families. No one assumes that they are poor because no one at the school is poor. It is an issue in mixed SES schools that teachers, staff or other parents assume a black kid must be poor. The white kids are all assumed to be wealthier in the mixed SES schools.

[Anonymous]

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When people assume that if you're black, you must have parents who are poor and have little education? That assumption is part of the problem.


THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I'm a Black mom here in MoCo...and we're certainly not poor, and neither are my Black neighbors. These assumptions irk my nerves.

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


[b]tooo much Fox News. Lol! I second this. We are both Black and both of our families grew up in nice houses with great vacations and childhoods. My parents are both college educated with multiple degrees and my Dad is very wealthy. People are stupid. But, let them think I grew up in a hood somewhere.?

This is one of the reasons the privates or W schools are preferable to many UMC black families. No one assumes that they are poor because no one at the school is poor. It is an issue in mixed SES schools that teachers, staff or other parents assume a black kid must be poor. The white kids are all assumed to be wealthier in the mixed SES schools.

Former W feeder teacher here: the white families still assume your family is poor unless you are neighbors.

[Anonymous]

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When people assume that if you're black, you must have parents who are poor and have little education? That assumption is part of the problem.


THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I'm a Black mom here in MoCo...and we're certainly not poor, and neither are my Black neighbors. These assumptions irk my nerves.

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


[b]tooo much Fox News. Lol! I second this. We are both Black and both of our families grew up in nice houses with great vacations and childhoods. My parents are both college educated with multiple degrees and my Dad is very wealthy. People are stupid. But, let them think I grew up in a hood somewhere.?


This is one of the reasons the privates or W schools are preferable to many UMC black families. No one assumes that they are poor because no one at the school is poor. It is an issue in mixed SES schools that teachers, staff or other parents assume a black kid must be poor. The white kids are all assumed to be wealthier in the mixed SES schools.


Former W feeder teacher here: the white families still assume your family is poor unless you are neighbors.

No they really don't.

[Anonymous]

How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?
How you gonna educate your kid on how to handle this?
I'm sure you know that the assumptions people make about you because you're black aren't limited to these 12 years of elementary school, middle school, and high school, right?
When your kid goes to college you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were accepted into that school is because... Yeah.
When your kid graduates and gets that job offer you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were hired is because... Yeah.
When your kid gets that promotion... Yeah. And when your kid becomes a parent and sends their child to school guess what parents will be saying or writing regarding AA students... Yeah.
So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

Who said anything about things being said in PRIVATE???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?
How you gonna educate your kid on how to handle this?
I'm sure you know that the assumptions people make about you because you're black aren't limited to these 12 years of elementary school, middle school, and high school, right?
When your kid goes to college you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were accepted into that school is because... Yeah.
When your kid graduates and gets that job offer you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were hired is because... Yeah.
When your kid gets that promotion... Yeah. And when your kid becomes a parent and sends their child to school guess what parents will be saying or writing regarding AA students... Yeah.
So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?

DP.
Are you black? I’m ASSUMING NOT, but I could be WRONG. I assume not because I think many black folk ALREADY KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE BEING BLACK IN AMERICA. I think a lot of us are not in need of a checklist of places and spaces in which we may encounter bias and racism.
Thanks anyway wanna be Shaun King.
And I went to an HBCU so I didn’t have to worry about assumptions. My high school Spanish handled that when he asked if my college was “a good one”
So yea , we know how to survive being black, why eff do you think this conversation started, someone trying g figure out how to get inwhete her family fits in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?
How you gonna educate your kid on how to handle this?
I'm sure you know that the assumptions people make about you because you're black aren't limited to these 12 years of elementary school, middle school, and high school, right?
When your kid goes to college you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were accepted into that school is because... Yeah.
When your kid graduates and gets that job offer you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were hired is because... Yeah.
When your kid gets that promotion... Yeah. And when your kid becomes a parent and sends their child to school guess what parents will be saying or writing regarding AA students... Yeah.
So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?

DP.
Are you black? I’m ASSUMING NOT, but I could be WRONG. I assume not because I think many black folk ALREADY KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE BEING BLACK IN AMERICA. I think a lot of us are not in need of a checklist of places and spaces in which we may encounter bias and racism.
Thanks anyway wanna be Shaun King.
And I went to an HBCU so I didn’t have to worry about assumptions. My high school Spanish handled that when he asked if my college was “a good one”
So yea , we know how to survive being black, why eff do you think this conversation started, someone trying g figure out how to get inwhete her family fits in.

Yes you are wrong and ain't nobody ask about your HBCU experience I don't need to I got my own experience (Proud Bison - shout out to H YOUUUUUUUUUUU)
I was just asking a simple question for the parents of black children in Montgomery County...what you gonna do?
Cause these assumptions ain't going nowhere regardless of how irritating and inappropriate and insensitive and just plain ignorant they are.
Simple question: parents of black children in Montgomery County what you gonna do about these white parents and their preconceived notions about your socioeconomic status?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?
How you gonna educate your kid on how to handle this?
I'm sure you know that the assumptions people make about you because you're black aren't limited to these 12 years of elementary school, middle school, and high school, right?
When your kid goes to college you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were accepted into that school is because... Yeah.
When your kid graduates and gets that job offer you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were hired is because... Yeah.
When your kid gets that promotion... Yeah. And when your kid becomes a parent and sends their child to school guess what parents will be saying or writing regarding AA students... Yeah.
So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?

DP.
Are you black? I’m ASSUMING NOT, but I could be WRONG. I assume not because I think many black folk ALREADY KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE BEING BLACK IN AMERICA. I think a lot of us are not in need of a checklist of places and spaces in which we may encounter bias and racism.
Thanks anyway wanna be Shaun King.
And I went to an HBCU so I didn’t have to worry about assumptions. My high school Spanish handled that when he asked if my college was “a good one”
So yea , we know how to survive being black, why eff do you think this conversation started, someone trying g figure out how to get inwhete her family fits in.

Yes you are wrong and ain't nobody ask about your HBCU experience I don't need to I got my own experience (Proud Bison - shout out to H YOUUUUUUUUUUU)
I was just asking a simple question for the parents of black children in Montgomery County...what you gonna do?
Cause these assumptions ain't going nowhere regardless of how irritating and inappropriate and insensitive and just plain ignorant they are.
Simple question: parents of black children in Montgomery County what you gonna do about these white parents and their preconceived notions about your socioeconomic status?

So your strategy is to be hostile instead of collaborative to other black folk??
Instead of suggesting strategies and resources you act like the rest of don’t know how hard it’s ?
I kndid not teach you tat at Howard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How the heck do you know with such certainty what people privately assume?

I can’t tell you what is privately assumed. I can tell you what parents said or wrote regarding AA students at our W school. Sometimes these comments were mean spirited. Other times, the white parent “meant well”, but the assumption itself was based in bias. Unfortunately, their brains were trained that black = FARMS & Section 8.

So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?
How you gonna educate your kid on how to handle this?
I'm sure you know that the assumptions people make about you because you're black aren't limited to these 12 years of elementary school, middle school, and high school, right?
When your kid goes to college you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were accepted into that school is because... Yeah.
When your kid graduates and gets that job offer you do realize that a lot of people will automatically assume that the only reason they were hired is because... Yeah.
When your kid gets that promotion... Yeah. And when your kid becomes a parent and sends their child to school guess what parents will be saying or writing regarding AA students... Yeah.
So what you gonna do?
How you gonna handle this?

DP.
Are you black? I’m ASSUMING NOT, but I could be WRONG. I assume not because I think many black folk ALREADY KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE BEING BLACK IN AMERICA. I think a lot of us are not in need of a checklist of places and spaces in which we may encounter bias and racism.
Thanks anyway wanna be Shaun King.
And I went to an HBCU so I didn’t have to worry about assumptions. My high school Spanish handled that when he asked if my college was “a good one”
So yea , we know how to survive being black, why eff do you think this conversation started, someone trying g figure out how to get inwhete her family fits in.

Yes you are wrong and ain't nobody ask about your HBCU experience I don't need to I got my own experience (Proud Bison - shout out to H YOUUUUUUUUUUU)
I was just asking a simple question for the parents of black children in Montgomery County...what you gonna do?
Cause these assumptions ain't going nowhere regardless of how irritating and inappropriate and insensitive and just plain ignorant they are.
Simple question: parents of black children in Montgomery County what you gonna do about these white parents and their preconceived notions about your socioeconomic status?

So your strategy is to be hostile instead of collaborative to other black folk??
Instead of suggesting strategies and resources you act like the rest of don’t know how hard it’s ?
I kndid not teach you tat at Howard.

Call it what you want I'm just asking a question.
If folks feel inclined to provide some answers maybe we can work on refining em and coming to a consensus on what works and what's in our best interest.
If folks wanna duck and dodge the question or get too distracted to answer cause they all up in their feelings then I guess y'all ain't ready to resolve anything.